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Try grading this 1937 proof buffalo nickel now in an auction on eBay

BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

described as follows. try grading it.
"1937 Buffalo Nickel, PROOF, Highly Desired Gem PF++, Scarce PR “


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  • CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PF65

  • NotSureNotSure Posts: 2,978 ✭✭✭

    Saw that one last night after checking the 're-list' of the Buff you returned. Not my series, but those splooge marks on the obverse....wth is that? I'll say it codes 97, possibly...?

    I'll come up with something.
  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not sure, looks like there might be some env. damage on the obverse at 4:00 and 10:00.

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    my guess would be "PF60 - environmental damage"

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That looks like the kind of damage that can not be repaired with a dipping.

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Still would be nice if I could find one like that in change!

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like corrosion at 10 o'clock and 4 o'clock. A real gem for sure.

  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just love how they describe their auctions as "undervalued coin auctions". And then a lot of bidders get drawn in and pay close to market prices for their under valued coins. How ironic, but you can only blame the bidders knowing they ateprobably biddong against their "friends".

    And we now have Buff they describe as proof. The occlusions at 4 and 10 o'clock are well noted, and the coin will be lucky tograde 63. With Buff proofs commonally available 66 or better, how much can this coin be worth........we shall see.

    OINK

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,485 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The rear leg on "Black Diamond" looks awful for a proof. The whole coin is spotty - mostly hammered but also weak.

    I don't know what to think about it. It is, after all, at the end of the series,

    I wouldn't consider it, personally.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Their extensive use of shills makes it likely that an unfortunate few may be paying far above retail.

  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would value this oink oink specimen at no more than $500. My guess with the shills it might go a couple hundred higher.
    It is an “environmental damage” specimen and that is what would appear on the slab insert, next to PR-60 details.

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    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • YouYou Posts: 268 ✭✭✭

    90% of Great Southern Coins' stock are just problem coins that have been cracked out of details holders, given glamour shots, and shill bidded to insane heights. I have no idea why they're still allowed on eBay.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those are strange marks on the obverse... I wonder what caused that... I would think they are permanent or the sellers would have removed them. Too bad... Cheers, RickO

  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,804 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh yea, I just saw the 10 o'clock obverse thing......ouch......
    60 details with environmental damage.......

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Didn't you know? It's the new 1937 "satin surface Proof Buffalo nickel."

    Seriously though I think that it is an imparied Proof that has been cleaned, leaving it with a dull appearance. If you have to stick a number on it, perhaps PR-58.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 16, 2017 8:05AM

    Damaged, impaired, handicapped, afflicted, marred, mutilated, spoiled, wrecked, adulterated, hurt, wounded, suffering, blemished, corrupted, and maligned 1937 proof nickel. Real value = under $50.

  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:
    Damaged, impaired, handicapped, afflicted, marred, mutilated, spoiled, wrecked, adulterated, hurt, wounded, suffering, blemished, corrupted, and blemished 1937 proof nickel. Real value = under $50.

    WoW! And that is about correct!! BET IT GOES FOR $500 THOUIGH!

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    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How could anyone post this coin and call it “gem proof”?

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When I was in Vietnam circa 1969-1970 I bought a gem proof 1937 buff. My first proof buff and it had just a small imperfection at about 5 o’clock. Nothing like the piece we are talking about here. And that coin, which was probably a nice proof-63, cost me fifty bucks back then. They shipped it to me in Nam.

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The auction is over and it sold for, get ready for this, it went for $860.05!! For a damaged coin? I don’t get it. You could get a slabbed proof-65 for about $1250, why would you want to drop that kind of money on a damaged coin? To each his own I guess. Anyway GSC did a great job of promoting this coin to say the least.

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MANOFCOINS said:
    I avoid GSC like the plaque

    I think their raw coins are great!! (Some know why!) you just have to grade the coin yourself before you bid on it. I recently bought a so-called gem bu 1915 buff that had one problem -- a pit or damage on the rim at 6 o’clock on the obverse - and I was able to return it with no problems. You just have to be careful with their raw coins like any other unslabbed coin being offered on eBay or any other online site.

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @koynekwest said:
    Their extensive use of shills makes it likely that an unfortunate few may be paying far above retail.

    I think this is what happened wit this coin. Look at the bids. auction number is 122487664361

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What I don't understand is why all their raw coins have low-res garbage pictures that you can't even zoom into on ebay. They recently had a bunch of proof Morgans for sale, I probably would have bid on a couple if they had larger pictures, but no, the usual compressed for no reason pictures. The slabbed stuff though, for some reason, has nice large photos that zoom when you hover over them with your mouse. Why would they sell high dollar coins with such crap photos? There is no logic, $50 slabbed morgan? Better use the good camera. Raw $2000 Proof Morgan? Let's just use the Nokia.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @You said:
    90% of Great Southern Coins' stock are just problem coins that have been cracked out of details holders, given glamour shots, and shill bidded to insane heights. I have no idea why they're still allowed on eBay.

    Apparently, so Buffnix can continue to cherry pick unattributed Matte Proofs from them. It does seem that they know what a 1936/1937 proof Buff looks like.

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    (roadrunner said ....."it does seem that they know what a 1936/1937 proof Buff looks like.”)
    really? I have a 1936 satin finish proof pr-64 I got from them a few years ago.

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • YouYou Posts: 268 ✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2017 9:44AM

    ok

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,577 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BUFFNIXX said:
    How could anyone post this coin and call it “gem proof”?

    im wondering if that might be a question for the seller? odd as this one might be. just saying

  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I myself have noticed that you can zoom in on GSC’s slabbed coins but not on the raw coins for some reason. Cannot imagine what “advantage” there would be in not allowing you to zoom in on the raw stuff. Still, overall their photos are pretty good save for the rare on that seems to be enhanced. As with any coin from any other seller you just have to be careful.

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I try to avoid all sellers that have photo's that you cannot zoom in on. What are they trying to hide by handicapping you? This is intentional, they have to purposely resize the image to fit eBay's minimum size. On to the next seller.

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd wait until pcgs offers a quarterly special: "any blemished buffalo beauty" and then send it in.

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