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1880-S Silver Dollar -- Artificial or Natural toning??

tincuptincup Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭✭✭

What say you? I like the colors... but I say artificial.. but nowadays, who knows?

----- kj

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I realize parts of the coin have what is often termed "pull away" toning, but the colors that show up on my screen look AT.

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  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks NT to me. Possibly from a Tidy House holder.

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  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,031 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NT from mediocre pics at least

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,308 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Kinda looks natural.

  • RexfordRexford Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks NT to me, and a real nice one at that. I agree though, artificial toning seems to be getting harder and harder to distinguish from NT over time.

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 14, 2017 7:25PM

    It's a toss-up. I would say it's market acceptable and am pretty sure it would be bid up over $100 as is (raw) in an ebay auction. It's likely worth trying to certify it.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Borderline but I vote NT.

  • oldlinecoinsoldlinecoins Posts: 183 ✭✭✭

    definitely NT

  • nk1nknk1nk Posts: 477 ✭✭✭✭

    Natural and very nice! I want it.

  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,736 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks NT to me.

  • TheDukeKTheDukeK Posts: 359 ✭✭✭

    nt and nice

  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm on the natural side of the vote as well. I like it and I would buy it if I came across it.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AT... and the A stands for 'accelerated' in this case.... Cheers, RickO

  • Peace_dollar88Peace_dollar88 Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks natural to me.

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As I think about it... the Tidy House Dollar mentioned may be a possibility. I have a Tidy House holder with two Kennedy halves, and they have some of the most absolute wild toning... and if I recall, one of them has very similar color and pattern as the silver dollar pictured. Don't have them handy right now... but if opportunity arises will try to post pics.

    ----- kj
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,511 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a '49P Franklin with toning pretty similar to the obverse of the posted coin, and I always thought it was AT (but it was attractive and cheap) - but it sounds like most members are voting NT, so who knows?

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  • CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NT

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,809 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AT/NT? Unsure. Looks MA. I'm a bit of a skeptic when it comes to this and I think a large percentage of toned coins in today's marketplace had help.

  • zippcityzippcity Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭✭

    one I had in my type set a couple of years for comparison.

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  • FranklinHalfAddictFranklinHalfAddict Posts: 674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 15, 2017 8:27AM

    Wow. I'm really surprised at all the votes for NT. I was expecting an overwhelming majority of votes for AT.
    i wouldn't buy that thing as natural.

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Image colors look a little saturated to me. And the toning looks accelerated. Probably MA but I don't think it's natural.
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,431 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't like what shows as pink on my monitor. It looks like aftermarket toning in a tidy house, or similar, type of holder. That would put it, imho, as NT.
    However, it does have some look that I don't like (aforementioned pinkish look) which would keep me from paying too much for the toning.

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  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The saturation/color is off some in the photo. In person, does not really show as pink (but then again, I am partially color-blind so...). Color is more lavender - gold - bronze - red kind of all blended together on the obverse. Reverse is more yellow-gold in center and lavender, blues, violets near the rim.

    Another thing photo does not show... the colors are not flat. Strong luster shines right through the colors.

    ----- kj
  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had one a few years ago that looked almost identical to yours on the reverse. PCGS details graded it. In my opinion mine and yours have natural toning.

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  • coin4salecoin4sale Posts: 375 ✭✭✭

    Put me in the NT column

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  • LRCTomLRCTom Posts: 857 ✭✭✭

    NT and I like it a lot!

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  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NT for me.
    I've had a couple very similar recently graded.
    I think they were knocked down a little because of the muddy toning.

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