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New pickup today, blueberry morgan dollar!

basetsbbasetsb Posts: 508 ✭✭✭✭


It fits in nicely with the rest of my toned morgan dansco and was a bit of shock to come across.

Thoughts?

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  • USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is a tough one for me. Looks like you have to angle it to get the color to show but would be willing to bet it looks a little darker if it was a straight on shot. Is it blue around the edge or does it appear blackish?

  • basetsbbasetsb Posts: 508 ✭✭✭✭

    @USMarine6 said:
    This is a tough one for me. Looks like you have to angle it to get the color to show but would be willing to bet it looks a little darker if it was a straight on shot. Is it blue around the edge or does it appear blackish?

    There's a shot from directly overhead.

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  • boyernumismaticsboyernumismatics Posts: 473 ✭✭✭✭

    This is a splendid coin easy on the eyes in hand. Great pickup and you're welcome on the lead :)

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very pretty coin.

  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,931 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like an old paramount holdered coin.

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  • TireKickerTireKicker Posts: 870 ✭✭

    Looks like an excellent coin...great pick up.

    All the best,

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  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Decent target toner

    The more you VAM..
  • CyndieChildressCyndieChildress Posts: 429 ✭✭✭

    Great pickup of a NICE toner

  • jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not convinced it's natural.

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't see the two C's but other than that, it's a stunner!

    bob :)

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,457 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,310 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice! It looks a little like album toning.

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    +1

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  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For those who think it is artificially toned, what is the give away for you apart from the fact that it is not in a NGC or PCGS holder?

  • boyernumismaticsboyernumismatics Posts: 473 ✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    +1

    @afford said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    I will 3rd that, and it appears obviously so too.

    Having held this coin in hand and thoroughly examining it, I will assure anyone on this board that this is a 100% naturally toned coin in all respects :)

    Cheers.

  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin is certainly pretty. Based on my experience, I avoid a purple hue on anything but PF copper. A number of PF Braided Large Cents in BN display a purplish hue. Purple is an easy color to create.

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  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,530 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am in the AT crowd, because of the colors. Whenever I am offered a Morgan dollar with those colors, I pass on the offer.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have not held the coin to personally evaluate it. That being said, it has the pattern/progression of an AT coin... Cheers, RickO

  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,159 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @boyernumismatics said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    +1

    @afford said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    I will 3rd that, and it appears obviously so too.

    Having held this coin in hand and thoroughly examining it, I will assure anyone on this board that this is a 100% naturally toned coin in all respects :)

    Cheers.

    Please tell me why you believe it to be naturally toned.
    Have you owned it for many years?
    I would have guaranteed it to be AT.

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 5, 2017 4:22AM

    The obverse "looks" very AT to me. The reverse not so much. If I just saw the reverse I'd say maybe. But the obverse pattern and color progression seems wrong. I could be wrong though. It's certainly "questionable" imo.

    You have to explain the strange interior shadows on the reverse letters "ESO." Then the letters "E, R, C" in AMERICA which have abrupt color changes inside the lettering.

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a nice piece, but I would not have bought it unless it was TPG certified...excellent album coin!

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  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,560 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 5, 2017 7:35AM

    I am also in the AT crowd - I'd say 75%-80% sure. The progression on the obverse and pink-purple combination looks wrong to me. Also, the toning on both sides is a not too similar (although the reverse looks ok to me on its own). Mostly, it's the color transition on the obverse. However, as Todd mentioned, some Paramount coins have a similar look, but usually without that pink.

  • basetsbbasetsb Posts: 508 ✭✭✭✭

    @david3142 said:
    I am also in the AT crowd - I'd say 75%-80% sure. The progression on the obverse and pink-purple combination looks wrong to me. Also, the toning on both sides is a not too similar (although the reverse looks ok to me on its own). Mostly, it's the color transition on the obverse. However, as Todd mentioned, some Redfield coins have a similar look, but usually without that pink.

    It's not really pink as in barbie doll pink. It's more of a lighter shade of purple that gets lighter as you go towards the middle.

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  • CuKevinCuKevin Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭✭

    It's blue and pink, return it. AT.

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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,474 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 5, 2017 7:05AM

    I don't use the terminology of artificial or natural where it concerns toning on a silver coin. It is either incidental, or it is intentional to me. I always examine a toned coin initially for signs of a motive to intentionally tone. The pattern and color of toning on the OP's coin has never motivated me to pay a premium just for the toning, even if it is even judged to be incidental.

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  • boyernumismaticsboyernumismatics Posts: 473 ✭✭✭✭

    @Flatwoods said:

    @boyernumismatics said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    +1

    @afford said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    I will 3rd that, and it appears obviously so too.

    Having held this coin in hand and thoroughly examining it, I will assure anyone on this board that this is a 100% naturally toned coin in all respects :)

    Cheers.

    Please tell me why you believe it to be naturally toned.
    Have you owned it for many years?
    I would have guaranteed it to be AT.

    Because I've owned AND seen multiple different types/denominations of coins with this old paramount toning that have all graded out.

    Anything different or out of the tastes of you guys is AT. LOL. Hey, sell em to me! I'll be glad to be the one to make money off of the ignorance of others :)

  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it and having not had it in hand I will say that it might looks to others as arty because of even look of the toning, but I would ask why? it looks like a clean coin and don't see any majors that would make it a candidate to cover

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  • boyernumismaticsboyernumismatics Posts: 473 ✭✭✭✭

    Here's a few of my personal photos to aid this "discussion" :




  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 5, 2017 9:02AM

    That looks like the same coin from the OP...I still like it as an album coin.

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  • basetsbbasetsb Posts: 508 ✭✭✭✭

    @oih82w8 said:
    That looks like the same coin from the OP...I still like it as an album coin.

    It is the same coin

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  • nk1nknk1nk Posts: 477 ✭✭✭✭

    @boyernumismatics said:

    @Flatwoods said:

    @boyernumismatics said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    +1

    @afford said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    I will 3rd that, and it appears obviously so too.

    Having held this coin in hand and thoroughly examining it, I will assure anyone on this board that this is a 100% naturally toned coin in all respects :)

    Cheers.

    Please tell me why you believe it to be naturally toned.
    Have you owned it for many years?
    I would have guaranteed it to be AT.

    Because I've owned AND seen multiple different types/denominations of coins with this old paramount toning that have all graded out.

    Anything different or out of the tastes of you guys is AT. LOL. Hey, sell em to me! I'll be glad to be the one to make money off of the ignorance of others :)

    Just curious, why isn't this one "graded out" seems a coin like this would be much more valuable in a problem free holder, no?

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm a big fan of blueberry toned coins. Love it.

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  • basetsbbasetsb Posts: 508 ✭✭✭✭

    @nk1nk said:

    @boyernumismatics said:

    @Flatwoods said:

    @boyernumismatics said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    +1

    @afford said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    I will 3rd that, and it appears obviously so too.

    Having held this coin in hand and thoroughly examining it, I will assure anyone on this board that this is a 100% naturally toned coin in all respects :)

    Cheers.

    Please tell me why you believe it to be naturally toned.
    Have you owned it for many years?
    I would have guaranteed it to be AT.

    Because I've owned AND seen multiple different types/denominations of coins with this old paramount toning that have all graded out.

    Anything different or out of the tastes of you guys is AT. LOL. Hey, sell em to me! I'll be glad to be the one to make money off of the ignorance of others :)

    Just curious, why isn't this one "graded out" seems a coin like this would be much more valuable in a problem free holder, no?

    It's not slabbed because it's an album coin (its in my Morgan dansco)

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @basetsb said:

    @oih82w8 said:
    That looks like the same coin from the OP...I still like it as an album coin.

    It is the same coin

    Here's a few of my personal photos to aid this "discussion" :

    Looks like I misread boyernumismatics post as "here is another coin with similar toning", and not as "here are a few of my own images of the same coin". My apologies.

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  • nk1nknk1nk Posts: 477 ✭✭✭✭

    @basetsb said:

    @nk1nk said:

    @boyernumismatics said:

    @Flatwoods said:

    @boyernumismatics said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    +1

    @afford said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    I will 3rd that, and it appears obviously so too.

    Having held this coin in hand and thoroughly examining it, I will assure anyone on this board that this is a 100% naturally toned coin in all respects :)

    Cheers.

    Please tell me why you believe it to be naturally toned.
    Have you owned it for many years?
    I would have guaranteed it to be AT.

    Because I've owned AND seen multiple different types/denominations of coins with this old paramount toning that have all graded out.

    Anything different or out of the tastes of you guys is AT. LOL. Hey, sell em to me! I'll be glad to be the one to make money off of the ignorance of others :)

    Just curious, why isn't this one "graded out" seems a coin like this would be much more valuable in a problem free holder, no?

    It's not slabbed because it's an album coin (its in my Morgan dansco)

    I was more curious why the seller didn't have it slabbed, I'm certain it would have been worth the fees and got the seller more money if it straight graded. just my opinion.

  • basetsbbasetsb Posts: 508 ✭✭✭✭

    @nk1nk said:

    @basetsb said:

    @nk1nk said:

    @boyernumismatics said:

    @Flatwoods said:

    @boyernumismatics said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    @tradedollarnut said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    +1

    @afford said:

    @TomB said:
    You asked for thoughts so I will share mine with you. I believe, from those images, it is artificially toned.

    I will 3rd that, and it appears obviously so too.

    Having held this coin in hand and thoroughly examining it, I will assure anyone on this board that this is a 100% naturally toned coin in all respects :)

    Cheers.

    Please tell me why you believe it to be naturally toned.
    Have you owned it for many years?
    I would have guaranteed it to be AT.

    Because I've owned AND seen multiple different types/denominations of coins with this old paramount toning that have all graded out.

    Anything different or out of the tastes of you guys is AT. LOL. Hey, sell em to me! I'll be glad to be the one to make money off of the ignorance of others :)

    Just curious, why isn't this one "graded out" seems a coin like this would be much more valuable in a problem free holder, no?

    It's not slabbed because it's an album coin (its in my Morgan dansco)

    I was more curious why the seller didn't have it slabbed, I'm certain it would have been worth the fees and got the seller more money if it straight graded. just my opinion.

    I'm not sure. Sometimes coins just don't find their way into peoples hands who have the time or energy to send them off. I bought this coin from the dealer of my local coin shop here near New Orleans, LA. He has provided me with many slabbed and raw coins for my collection. If this coin were not in my album I would send it off myself.e

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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 5, 2017 10:32AM

    Whether it is artificial toning or not, it looks AU, which takes any added value away, even with natural toning.

  • basetsbbasetsb Posts: 508 ✭✭✭✭

    @Wabbit2313 said:
    Whether it is artificial toning or not, it looks AU, which takes any added value away, even with natural toning.

    I can't find any wear on this coin.

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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @basetsb said:

    @Wabbit2313 said:
    Whether it is artificial toning or not, it looks AU, which takes any added value away, even with natural toning.

    I can't find any wear on this coin.

    I stick with AU and the artificial toning is covering up the circulation in the fields.

    -

  • nk1nknk1nk Posts: 477 ✭✭✭✭

    @basetsb said:

    @Wabbit2313 said:
    Whether it is artificial toning or not, it looks AU, which takes any added value away, even with natural toning.

    I can't find any wear on this coin.

    Im confused, are you and
    Boyernumismatics the same person? You mentioned in another thread that your IG is boyernumismatics.

  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AT

    but still fun

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @boyernumismatics said:

    @ricko said:
    Unbelievable.....Congratulations... you are obviously very happy with the result... Cheers, RickO

    Same coin from the sub I posted last week. It was @basetsb 's coin inside of my submission.

    But yeah, I already Got my feelings/point across about the poor market. My coins on eBay right now (the rest of the submission) are already pulling very well and they were put up less than 24 hours ago. Fun to see them go up constantly!

    This was a previous post from a different thread. Not sure what is going on between these two, but the fact that the above coin is not graded makes me wonder since he/they send coins in all the time. I vote same person.

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  • boyernumismaticsboyernumismatics Posts: 473 ✭✭✭✭

    We are not the same person, but merely venture into business together and are related, lol. If you don't believe me you can ask my buddy @pa_coins . He's the largest dealer on IG.

    Another big LOL to the AU sentiment, on top of the AT claims.

  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,159 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 5, 2017 5:11PM

    I surely hope that I did not offend anyone with my ignorance.
    That was not my intent. I was merely trying to learn from your vast experience with these coins.
    My apologies.

  • boyernumismaticsboyernumismatics Posts: 473 ✭✭✭✭

    @OwenSeymour , not @pa_coins on here, my mistake.

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Send it in and prove how smart you are and how dumb we are. With as many orders as you say you send, not sure why this one coin was not sent in. I will guess it was and came back AU, AT, or both.

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