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VietNam Veterans Day, March 28,2017

chiniu1976chiniu1976 Posts: 165 ✭✭
edited March 29, 2017 6:13AM in U.S. Coin Forum

My heart goes out to all the VietNam vets and all ves that have given service to thgeir country and when ou go to
Washington DC, stop by and say hello znd thank the over 50K who wanted to come home but did not.
Everyday should be veterans day, not just 24hrs on a designated day

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    MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭

    This thread should not have sunk to the bottom quite so quickly. Today really is fox43.com/2017/03/29/its-official-march-29th-to-be-permanently-recognized-as-national-vietnam-war-veterans-day/ National Vietnam War Veterans Day, and these veterans should be recognized for the sacrifices they made on our behalf. And to keep this coin related, just consider that you would not be free to collect coins if not for our veterans.

    If you can read this, thank a teacher.
    If you are reading it in English, thank a veteran.

    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
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    OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are no more WWI Vets. WWII Vets are in their upper 90s and dwindling fast. Korean War Vets are in their upper 70s - mid 80s. The Vietnam Vets are in their upper 60s - low 70s now. And it's hard to believe that the Gulf War Vets are already in their upper 50s - lower 60s with the next generation bringing up the rear.

    As they disappear a generation at a time, their stories and acts of heroism and fortitude in the face of danger go with them. We need to always remember and honor them.

    We measure generations and eras by wars. It will be a grand time, indeed, when we will be able to go an entire generation without a war to measure it by.

    Salute!

    Bob

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,514 ✭✭✭✭✭

    always remember and give thanks.

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    zippcityzippcity Posts: 888 ✭✭✭✭

    For those that served , I applaud and thank you for my freedom.

    B)

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    epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭

    @Outhaul said:

    As they disappear a generation at a time, their stories and acts of heroism and fortitude in the face of danger go with them. We need to always remember and honor them.

    Salute!

    Bob

    I agree, 100,000 percent.

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    Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you all veterans! I was considering making a thread for Vets to post their coins collected while abroad. Maybe I will now.

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    GoldenEggGoldenEgg Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,485 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Viet Nam veterans were treated like garbage when they come home, and it was not their fault. They simply did what they were forced to do or believed in doing because of a misguided government policy that was formed by Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon and to a lesser and much lesser extent John F. Kennedy and Dwight Eisenhower. They didn't form the policy that sent them to Viet Nam; they followed orders.

    There should be a day devoted to these men who served their country, even if the war they in which they fought made no sense and resulted in failure. The blame lies with the politicians not the people who fought that war.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My thinking is that if it had not been for Eisenhower we would have not been in Viet Nam.

    Ken

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    chiniu1976chiniu1976 Posts: 165 ✭✭

    Agree 100%, we could have won the war, more air power was needed, but you still need boots on ghe gound and the US people had, had enough. The Wasington DC war protest ended the war, not a lack of US miliatry actions
    VietNam veterans are still 2nd rate citizens and will never be treat well.USAF 1968-1972
    MT

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    PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,882 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Never hear of this day
    Entered active duty in Jun 1967
    Retired Feb 2006
    Meet some of the best people while on active duty !

    Pat Vetter,Mercury Dime registry set,1938 Proof set registry,Pat & BJ Coins:724-325-7211


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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,485 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Viet Nam veterans were treated like garbage when they come home, and it was not their fault. They simply did what they were forced to do or believed in doing because of a misguided government policy that was formed by Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon and to a lesser and much lesser extent John F. Kennedy and Dwight Eisenhower. They didn't form the policy that sent them to Viet Nam; they followed orders.

    There should be a day devoted to these men who served their country, even if the war they in which they fought made no sense and resulted in failure. The blame lies with the politicians not the people who fought that war.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,485 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Fairlaneman said:
    My thinking is that if it had not been for Eisenhower we would have not been in Viet Nam.

    Ken

    That is a huge stretch. There were hundreds of U.S. advisors when Eisenhower was president. Over a thousand when Kennedy held office, and Kennedy's CIA had the president of Vietnam killed. Johnson made the full commitment. He made Vietnam what it became.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,485 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @chiniu1976 said:
    Agree 100%, we could have won the war, more air power was needed, but you still need boots on ghe gound and the US people had, had enough. The Wasington DC war protest ended the war, not a lack of US miliatry actions
    VietNam veterans are still 2nd rate citizens and will never be treat well.USAF 1968-1972
    MT

    Okay, what would we have gotten if you had gotten you wanted? Years of occupation of a mostly hostile population. More money given corrupt leaders. Vietnam was and is not North Korea. Vietnam has never important on the world's balance of power. It was not worth lives and money we spent on it.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @chiniu1976 said:
    Agree 100%, we could have won the war, more air power was needed, but you still need boots on ghe gound and the US people had, had enough. The Wasington DC war protest ended the war, not a lack of US miliatry actions
    VietNam veterans are still 2nd rate citizens and will never be treat well.USAF 1968-1972
    MT

    I was there April 67 - April 68. We could have easily won that war......but we were just playing defense keeping the South free. We could have easily gone North and take the whole country.....but that was not the directive. I lost a cousin over there and probably every family in America was touched by this war.

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    MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭

    "There were hundreds of U.S. advisors when Eisenhower was president. Over a thousand when Kennedy held office, and Kennedy's CIA had the president of Vietnam killed. Johnson made the full commitment. He made Vietnam what it became."

    When seeking to point a finger of blame, let us not forget the nefarious contributions of Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara. Sadly, there is plenty of blame to go around.

    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
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    MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,411 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As a young Army Sergeant (E5) in November and December 1985, I was the backhoe operator on the first joint authorized government search and recovery mission to go into the Socialist Republic of Vietnam. Our team flew into Hanoi and dug up a crash site of a B-52 bomber that had crashed into a rice field outside of Hanoi on Christmas Eve 1972. We could not recover any remains due to the nature of the crash site, but the Vietnamese government turned over 7 sets of American remains. These remains had the identification (DOG) tags and were positively identified by the Central Identification Lab in Hawaii (CILHI) and returned to their families. My heart goes out to the Vietnam Veterans and their families.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,485 ✭✭✭✭✭

    McNamara stayed around during the Johnson administration and was a huge advocate of expanding the war. Yes, he deserves a lot of the blame, but as Truman said, when you are president, "The buck stops here."

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    @Fairlaneman said:
    My thinking is that if it had not been for Eisenhower we would have not been in Viet Nam.

    Ken

    That is a huge stretch. There were hundreds of U.S. advisors when Eisenhower was president. Over a thousand when Kennedy held office, and Kennedy's CIA had the president of Vietnam killed. Johnson made the full commitment. He made Vietnam what it became.

    I submit the following that comes right out of the history of Eisenhower.

    Eisenhower gave major aid to help the French in the First Indochina War, and after the French were defeated he gave strong financial support to the new state of South Vietnam. Congress agreed to his request in 1955 for the Formosa Resolution, which obliged the U.S. to militarily support capitalist Taiwan and continue the isolation of the People's Republic of China

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    PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,882 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would rather talk about coins than my or others past military history
    Some memories should be left in the past not in a forum.

    Pat Vetter,Mercury Dime registry set,1938 Proof set registry,Pat & BJ Coins:724-325-7211


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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is a nice tribute to the VietNam vets.... I was VietNam Era... though not a VietNam vet.... The vets deserve all the recognition and praise we can give them....Modern wars could be won if we let the Military run them... Cheers, RickO

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