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JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 16, 2017 5:43PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I had a blast Weds during the Early Bird and dealer set up. Slow pace and got to catch up with dealer friends and collectors. Spent a good 45 minutes talking coins with my great friend Gregg Bingham. He has forgotten more about commems then I know. Got to study his NGC holdered Isabella proof. Speciman or proof the coin always jumps out at you. Bill Shamhart joined the chat and I was in my glory. Bill used to intimidate me 10 years ago but I've grown extremely fond of him. I have a kindred spirit with him.

Bill later grabbed me by the arm and led me to his table. He wanted to show my a couple Walkers to consider for my toned set. I'm really down to one coin but always looking to upgrade. But to my SHOCK he actually had the coin I needed and it was on. The lights at LB suck so he let me scope it out under his table and I was smitten. A deal was made and I finally found a 42-s that fit my set. This set is 10 years in the making so I'm pretty giddy. We both felt the coin was under graded so I had John Agre crack it out for me as he is set up literally right across from the PCGS table. I wasn't smart enough to snap a pic or run it over to Todd ( I was hurting from a long INTL flight). I truly believe the 42-s is the toughest coin in the short set ESPECIALLY with color. Toned 42-s's are a bear to find. I've seen 3 in 10 years that I even considered. I'll report back when the grade and true view pop.

Was able to have a leisurely stroll around the bouse and chat up Dave Wnuck, Bonnie Sabel, Todd and Roger, Steven Higgins, Laura Sperber and George Huang. Ran into Wei and said hello to Evan Gale, Mike (Illini420) and Jay Robinson at their tables.

Only one coin but it was tied for number 1 on my want list so the show was a huge hit for me. Not much else grabbed my eye and a lot of awesome coins are not being sold into this down market and most are staying in strong hands. You still have to step up for nice coins. Most of the great coins I saw were in the back of dealers tables and not necessarily on display.

I had a blast

mark

Walker Proof Digital Album
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,322 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks Mark for that report. Nice to know Greg is still out there. He used to come around here fairly often in the older days. His posts were always classic. Good to see your set now that much closer to completion.

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It sounds like it was a lot of fun. I can't wait to see pictures of your 1942-S. Congratulations on finishing your set.

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 16, 2017 5:55PM

    Glad you finally found an eye appealing 1942-S---they are a bear. Does your newp have a satisfying strike? As I'm sure you know; they are real strike rarities. Can't wait to see it and good luck on the submission. Congrats!

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,968 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don't think I have been to the Long Beach Show in 25 years

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerfan said:
    Glad you finally found an eye appealing 1942-S---they are a bear. Does your newp have a satisfying strike? As I'm sure you know; they are real strike rarities. Congrats!

    Nope sad to say. Typical one handed strike for a 42-s. The 42-s is indeed a strike and color rarity.

    mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 16, 2017 6:14PM

    @roadrunner said:
    Thanks Mark for that report. Nice to know Greg is still out there. He used to come around here fairly often in the older days. His posts were always classic. Good to see your set now that much closer to completion.

    With what Monsterman went through it would have killed 99.9% of folks. Gregg is as sharp as he has ever been. The man is like granite

    mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:

    @Walkerfan said:
    Glad you finally found an eye appealing 1942-S---they are a bear. Does your newp have a satisfying strike? As I'm sure you know; they are real strike rarities. Congrats!

    Nope sad to say. Typical one handed strike for a 42-s. The 42-s is indeed a strike and color rarity.

    mark

    Regardless, I'm sure it's beautiful. I don't think that I've ever seen one with anything more than just a little rim toning.

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    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,288 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the report. can't wait to see pics of the Walker!

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 16, 2017 6:32PM

    BTW this coin was not stickered. The dealer I bought this coin from knows the series and so do I. So there :p

    mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks very much for sharing the experience that some of us could not enjoy :smile:

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  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,716 ✭✭✭✭✭

    my great friend Gregg Bingham.

    Boy, that guy could play some ball!!!!

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,085 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What! No pics? Your a tease! Sounds like you had a blast my friend. I gotta get to that coin show one year.
    Great read, thanks for sharing.

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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats to you and your set! With your eye, I bet it ends up stickered ;)

  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for sharing your success with the 42-S to complete your set. And now you are free to pursue a new chapter in your numismatic dreams? Congratulations.

  • mustanggtmustanggt Posts: 2,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats on your purchase.

  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭

    Great report Mark, thank you.
    Happy you scored and completed your series.

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  • CCC2010CCC2010 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭

    Can't wait to see the one you have been waiting for all these years. With your taste this coin must really be something to look at Mark. Looking forward with anticipation.

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CCC2010 said:
    Can't wait to see the one you have been waiting for all these years. With your taste this coin must really be something to look at Mark. Looking forward with anticipation.

    Thanks! It's pretty but not the most colorful coin in the set by a long shot but an anomaly for date/mint mark for sure.

    mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the mini report and congrats on your newp.

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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Glad you had a great time at the show. I love that PCGS gives out complimentary early bird passes to set registry members. Gives the Wednesdays at Long Beach a much better vibe with many more collectors at the show instead of the usual dealer to dealer wholesaling during set up. I hope this is something that continues at that show.

    :+1:

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  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the interesting report. Kudos on your toned 42-S find.

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,450 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sounds like a great time and always nice to find something that you have been after for a long time!

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  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for sharing the culmination of your decade long quest.

  • BigMooseBigMoose Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭

    Sounds like you had a great time, MJ! Congratulations on the 42S. I know how hard you have been working on that set. I would love to see your Walkers, including the Proofs when you are finished. That Shamhart fellow is quite the trip, isn't he?? He sold me a Large Cent within 10 minutes of my starting to walk the bourse floor at FUN this year and it made my entire show worthwhile.

    TomT-1794

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great report, thanks.... glad to hear you found the right coin after so long a search. Look forward to the pictures. Cheers, RickO

  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MJ
    I never did find a 42-S that I liked. Look forward to seeing a photo.

    Thanks for the report. Sounds like you met a lot of the good people in the business -makes me want to get to a show soon.

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  • etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭

    Congrats on landing your White Whale Mark.

    I look forward to seeing this coin and the now completed set.

    Mike

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,512 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the report and congrats! :+1: Looking forward to seeing pics.

    Bill has some great stuff and it's always a pleasure to spend some time at his table.

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  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 6,072 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great report! I echo that Bill is as knowledgeable a numismatist that I have ever dealt with. Some times in the past, Tom Bush set up at his table and you got a twofer! Thumbs up for the Walker, looking forward to the images!

    Best, SH

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:

    @CCC2010 said:
    Can't wait to see the one you have been waiting for all these years. With your taste this coin must really be something to look at Mark. Looking forward with anticipation.

    Thanks! It's pretty but not the most colorful coin in the set by a long shot but an anomaly for date/mint mark for sure.

    mark

    You are right about color on this date.
    The only color I've seen for this issue besides gold/yellow album toning, is what I'd call "autumn leaves" color. Can be attractive but not a "knock-your-socks-off" look.
    I don't have a Registry set or claim to have your knowledge of the series, but I started specializing in Walkers in the early 80s, sold my set in 1996 for a price that I thought was crazy at the time but now looks pitifully weak for what I had.
    Wish I hadn't.
    Oh well, they're just pieces of metal anyway..... :/

  • NicNic Posts: 3,422 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good for you Mark!

    That Shamhart guy needs to break more clays and catch more fish ....

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In my opinion, Bill Shamhart is one of the most underappreciated gems in numismatics. Glad you got some time with him!

  • goldengolden Posts: 10,108 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the great report! I know what it is to have one coin make your show. I wish that I was there.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 17, 2017 11:52PM

    @RogerB said:
    In my opinion, Bill Shamhart is one of the most underappreciated gems in numismatics. Glad you got some time with him!

    Agreed. FYI- he had one of your awesome books displayed in one of his cases with associated coins. I'll try to remember to snap a pic tomorrow.

    mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • 1tommy1tommy Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for Taking the time to post your experience, I hope to make this show someday...........

    Enjoy Tom

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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Am excited for you! Nothing more numismatically satisfying than landing the final coin. Any thoughts on the next challenge?

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  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭

    Great report Mark, thank you.
    Happy you scored and completed your series.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice report, and congrats! Like others, waiting to see a photo of it.

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    I had a blast Weds during the Early Bird and dealer set up. Slow pace and got to catch up with dealer friends and collectors. Spent a good 45 minutes talking coins with my great friend Gregg Bingham. He has forgotten more about commems then I know. Got to study his NGC holdered Isabella proof. Speciman or proof the coin always jumps out at you. Bill Shamhart joined the chat and I was in my glory. Bill used to intimidate me 10 years ago but I've grown extremely fond of him. I have a kindred spirit with him.

    Bill later grabbed me by the arm and led me to his table. He wanted to show my a couple Walkers to consider for my toned set. I'm really down to one coin but always looking to upgrade. But to my SHOCK he actually had the coin I needed and it was on. The lights at LB suck so he let me scope it out under his table and I was smitten. A deal was made and I finally found a 42-s that fit my set. This set is 10 years in the making so I'm pretty giddy. We both felt the coin was under graded so I had John Agre crack it out for me as he is set up literally right across from the PCGS table. I wasn't smart enough to snap a pic or run it over to Todd ( I was hurting from a long INTL flight). I truly believe the 42-s is the toughest coin in the short set ESPECIALLY with color. Toned 42-s's are a bear to find. I've seen 3 in 10 years that I even considered. I'll report back when the grade and true view pop.

    Was able to have a leisurely stroll around the bouse and chat up Dave Wnuck, Bonnie Sabel, Todd and Roger, Steven Higgins, Laura Sperber and George Huang. Ran into Wei and said hello to Evan Gale, Mike (Illini420) and Jay Robinson at their tables.

    Only one coin but it was tied for number 1 on my want list so the show was a huge hit for me. Not much else grabbed my eye and a lot of awesome coins are not being sold into this down market and most are staying in strong hands. You still have to step up for nice coins. Most of the great coins I saw were in the back of dealers tables and not necessarily on display.

    I had a blast

    mark

    Thanks for the report Mark. Looking forward to seeing a pic of the 42-S. I have never met Gregg Bingham in person, but we have PM'ed each other about football. Me being a Cowboy fan and him playing for the Oilers. He even sent me a Dallas Cowboy patch he had. He said tackling Earl Campbell in practice all those years took a toll on him.

  • bigmarty58bigmarty58 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great mini report, thanks.

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  • EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great report and sorry I couldn't make the show. Always great getting that last one to complete the set. Hope to see this one soon- please report back to us.

    Easton Collection
  • caddyshackcaddyshack Posts: 115 ✭✭

    Great seeing you! congrats on the Walker too.

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