@BillJones said:
It looks more like a campaign piece than an inaugural medal. Inaugural medals usually have the date of the swearing in and often mention the vice president.
I might well be wrong but I thought I had read that the VP was often included on 2nd term medals but not first term ones.
A portrait of the vice president is often included on the second inaugural medal. As to whether or note his name is included on the medal, that can go both ways. For example Johnson was not named on the 1961 Kennedy medal, but John Garner was mentioned on the 1933 FDR piece.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
@coinkat said:
I would settle for a smaller government with Trump not being part of it.
In the current political climate that is impossible. If Sanders had been nominated, we would have president Sanders.
Col Sanders would do a better job then the current occupant. A chicken in every pot err bucket. His medal would be way cool. Finger licking good in fact.
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As to the first or second term, there is no absolute guidance as to when the VP will appear. Sherman was Taft's VP andf he appeared on the 1909 Inaugural medal. Garner appears on the 1937 Inaugural and neither Wallace or Truman appear on the 1941 or 1945 Inaugural medals. Nixon appears in 1957.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
As hard as you and others may find this to believe, the Colonal... Colonal Sanders was actually considered by Alabama Governor George Wallace as a running mate in 1968. And this was before Wallace settled on and chose Curtis LeMay. I am not making this up as I go along...
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
If he would have thought of the $5 value meal earlier it could have changed the course of history
mark
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@coinkat said:
I really don't think people recognize or appreciate how close we were to electoral chaos in 1968- Seriously...
Oh yes. I was in college, and a few guys stayed up until the next morning to see if the presidential election would end up in the House of Representatives. If that had happened, Humphrey would have been president with fewer electoral votes than Nixon. Nixon turned out to be bad news, but at that juncture, that result would have been worse.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
As hard as you and others may find this to believe, the Colonal... Colonal Sanders was actually considered by Alabama Governor George Wallace as a running mate in 1968. And this was before Wallace settled on and chose Curtis LeMay. I am not making this up as I go along...
Colonial Sanders had more qualifications than Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin. He founded a major franchise company.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
@YQQ said:
Does he give them away for free? including shipping?
I would not spend a single cent on one.
If I had a complete inaugural medal collection I wouldn't add this DJT piece if given to me. It's awful. Creepy. I could see someone buying a decent rendition for completeness sake only.
I would however buy this in its place
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sadly, this is the level to which the office of President has fallen to with the help of the voting American public. our Commander in Chief is now the butt of jokes as a matter of routine. something happened on November 22nd, 1963 that is larger than the event itself and the course of the Nation seems to be irreversibly changed. since we have entered into a realm where nothing is secret or sacred we are left with the office and office-holder that we mock.
he certainly deserves mocking but it has to change.
@keets said:
sadly, this is the level to which the office of President has fallen to with the help of the voting American public. our Commander in Chief is now the butt of jokes as a matter of routine. something happened on November 22nd, 1963 that is larger than the event itself and the course of the Nation seems to be irreversibly changed. since we have entered into a realm where nothing is secret or sacred we are left with the office and office-holder that we mock.
he certainly deserves mocking but it has to change.
You contradicted yourself in your last sentence. If you want people to respect the president, you can’t continue to mock this one. I tolerated Obama.
As for your assertion that disrespect started with the JFK assassination, you are partially correct. John Kennedy’s death brought Lyndon Johnson to the White House. Johnson’s expansion of the Vietnam War earned him much reticule and disrespect. Many of the people of my baby boomer generation hated him, especially those who were in college. When Nixon fell into disrepute for his illegal acts, it became more acceptable to disrespect the office of the presidency.
In addition, the anti-war movement brought a lot of the baby boomers into contact with other aspects of far left wing politics. I saw many socialist and communist adult operatives at the ant-war rallies, and their influence was greater than you might think. A fair number of those young radicals became teachers and college professors who spread their point of view to succeeding generations of students. Product of this is reflected on college campuses today.
As a former student, I can tell you that college professors whom you respected, can have a lot of influence upon your economic and political philosophies for the rest of your life. It’s okay to be disrespectful or even violent in some people’s minds, if YOU KNOW that YOU ARE RIGHT.
After Nixon there were two weak presidents, Ford and Carter, followed by Ronald Reagan whom the progressive movement genuinely disliked. You throw in the vote counting debacle after the 2000 presidential election, and you have all the makings for the sharp divide we have today.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
Bill, not really, it's just an incorrectly structured sentence.
(by his behavior and the things he says) he certainly deserves mocking but it(his behavior and the things he says) has to change.
I always hold out Hope and I can't see this President sustaining his actions for an entire four years. there will be a breaking point somewhere, I don't know the who/what/when/where/how of it, but the social mood and political "sound of the past year will eventually prove unbearable.
the Hope that I alluded to is that the President himself will somehow alter his course, but to my core I believe he is incapable of that change.
Bill, I will give you Johnson and Carter in the agreement, please get off Reagan. he is not the Political hero the right continually views him as. the "divide" began with him and has grown wider --- think trickle-down.
Has anyone ever done a pole to see what percentage liberal-conservative the board members are? I bet it's 80% conservative. What is the average age 65 and white? Go ahead and buy your Trump memorabilia people.
Has anyone ever done a pole to see what percentage liberal-conservative the board members are? I bet it's 80% conservative. What is the average age 65 and white?
That's a good idea. Let's inject some identity politics into the forum so we can pick out groups of people to hate on, like old white guys for starters.
We obviously don't have enough to argue about with just coins as the focus.
BTW, the passage of time tends to erase certain memories. Presidents that are thought of as beloved icons today were despised by around half the country in their time. Lincoln was as hated as one can be, by half the country. FDR also had serious opponents in every election he ran in, and based on some political memorabilia I inherited, there was strong sentiment against him running for a 3rd term (and presumably a 4th as well).
@Datentype said:
Has anyone ever done a pole to see what percentage liberal-conservative the board members are? I bet it's 80% conservative. What is the average age 65 and white? Go ahead and buy your Trump memorabilia people.
i thought liberals were against using age, race, and politics to discriminate against an entire group of people...
@Datentype said:
Has anyone ever done a pole to see what percentage liberal-conservative the board members are? I bet it's 80% conservative. What is the average age 65 and white? Go ahead and buy your Trump memorabilia people.
Yep, I'm past 65 and white, one of "bad guys" so far as you are concerned, and I support much of what Trump wants because I believe in capitalism and economic freedom. The system is not perfect, but it beats the planned economy model, which has failed continually through history.
As for Trump memorabilia, I have a few Trump and Clinton buttons because I have a collection of political pieces that date from George Washington's time. I bought the Trump inaugural medal because I have a fair sized collection of those as well.
Trump was not even close to my first choice in the primaries. I voted for him in the general election more because he wasn't the other candidate more than anything else. If that makes me an ogre in your eyes, then so be it.
I believe in democracy and freedom and not the top down approach to government. I also believe in honesty. I think that people who work hard and succeed should enjoy the fruits of their labor. I don't think that those who sit around and do little or nothing for themselves should live as well as those who work. I know that does not agree with socialist model, but I am not a socialist.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
@Datentype said:
Has anyone ever done a pole to see what percentage liberal-conservative the board members are? I bet it's 80% conservative. What is the average age 65 and white? Go ahead and buy your Trump memorabilia people.
i thought liberals were against using age, race, and politics to discriminate against an entire group of people...
Only when they interact with other liberals.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
@Datentype said:
Has anyone ever done a pole to see what percentage liberal-conservative the board members are? I bet it's 80% conservative. What is the average age 65 and white? Go ahead and buy your Trump memorabilia people.
Well I'm well under 65 but white and conservative. Two out of three ain't bad. The current state of the union leaves me no choice to to rethink my position going forward. I know I can't align with current administration. Zero chance. I may have to defect to the other side or pick my spots. There are lots of us facing this choice. Zero chance of me buying anything associated with this Trump medal.
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@Datentype said:
Has anyone ever done a pole to see what percentage liberal-conservative the board members are? I bet it's 80% conservative. What is the average age 65 and white? Go ahead and buy your Trump memorabilia people.
Well I'm well under 65 but white and conservative. Two out of three ain't bad. The current state of the union leaves me no choice to to rethink my position going forward. I know I can't align with current administration. Zero chance. I may have to defect to the other side or pick my spots. There are lots of us facing this choice. Zero chance of me buying anything associated with this Trump medal.
m
Buying the medal is not an endorsement of Trump. I am not a huge Franklin Roosevelt fan. Ditto even more when it comes to Woodrow Wilson. Yet I have all of their inaugural medals, a total of seven pieces. The FDR Inaugural Committee issued two minor varieties in 1941.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@BillJones said:
Buying the medal is not an endorsement of Trump.
But you bought ten of them.... j/k
I have been picking up duplicates of the 1973 bronze Nixon Inaugural medal when they are cheap enough. I have the one I got in 1973 still in the plastic wrap, but they are plentiful and cheap so I have bought more. Aside from the potential for controversy over the subject matter (they show two people who resigned from office), they are nicely done (by the Franklin Mint in its heyday) and a huge chunk of solid bronze. My goal is to have something artistic done with them - maybe have Hobo nickel artists have a go at them, or have some made into who knows what. I figure they might make for a quirky specialized collection some day.
Cannot pass it up: Voters had to make a choice between two horrid candidates. The election outcome as determined by the COTUS did not match the popular vote. I find the result to be just about perfect in that the voters installed their choice, yet minimized the winner's claim to a mandate. One has to understand that sometimes things really do have a way of working out. I could go on for several paragraphs concerning how a truly, historically, special chance to have a POTUS Sanders was lost, but I won't. The depiction on the medal is not flattering.
@YQQ said:
Does he give them away for free? including shipping?
I would not spend a single cent on one.
If I had a complete inaugural medal collection I wouldn't add this DJT piece if given to me. It's awful. Creepy. I could see someone buying a decent rendition for completeness sake only.
I would however buy this in its place
m
Love the Colonel Sanders coin. Hilarious
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@oldgoldlover said:
I like it, full employment and higher stock prices. This is one medal I may own.
It's been like this for a few years now. It is nice. About the only thing that is. By all means buy the medal. Buy two. The medal is vile. To that the artist nailed it I guess in retrospect. Fitting
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Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
There hasn't been a rush on getting inaugural medals out the past few administrations because we no longer have a republic, nor a representative government, let alone a two party system...reference to George Carlin's "the big club."
I'd post link here but probably would get in trouble....
WWE wrestlers have as much credibility as all our politicians...blame corporate media for your troubles- not each other.
I like anything Trump and while I find this Medal boring I appreciate you sharing it and like the story you provided. You will see some more Great thing to come
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Sorry Keets... Apparently I am only limited to one choice. I suppose I am beyond the LOL stage so it really doesn't matter.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
A portrait of the vice president is often included on the second inaugural medal. As to whether or note his name is included on the medal, that can go both ways. For example Johnson was not named on the 1961 Kennedy medal, but John Garner was mentioned on the 1933 FDR piece.
Col Sanders would do a better job then the current occupant. A chicken in every pot err bucket. His medal would be way cool. Finger licking good in fact.
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
As to the first or second term, there is no absolute guidance as to when the VP will appear. Sherman was Taft's VP andf he appeared on the 1909 Inaugural medal. Garner appears on the 1937 Inaugural and neither Wallace or Truman appear on the 1941 or 1945 Inaugural medals. Nixon appears in 1957.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Justacommeman...
As hard as you and others may find this to believe, the Colonal... Colonal Sanders was actually considered by Alabama Governor George Wallace as a running mate in 1968. And this was before Wallace settled on and chose Curtis LeMay. I am not making this up as I go along...
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
If he would have thought of the $5 value meal earlier it could have changed the course of history
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Just doesn't do it for me...I have a couple of older ones and this design is very uninspiring IMO.
K
I really don't think people recognize or appreciate how close we were to electoral chaos in 1968- Seriously...
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Oh yes. I was in college, and a few guys stayed up until the next morning to see if the presidential election would end up in the House of Representatives. If that had happened, Humphrey would have been president with fewer electoral votes than Nixon. Nixon turned out to be bad news, but at that juncture, that result would have been worse.
Colonial Sanders had more qualifications than Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin. He founded a major franchise company.
Can we please spell his rank correctly? It’s “Colonel” !!
Does he give them away for free? including shipping?
I would not spend a single cent on one.
I'd consider this medal if it was gifted and the donor paid a $15,000/yr storage fee. Posting in my collection, PRICELESS!
If I had a complete inaugural medal collection I wouldn't add this DJT piece if given to me. It's awful. Creepy. I could see someone buying a decent rendition for completeness sake only.
I would however buy this in its place
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
sadly, this is the level to which the office of President has fallen to with the help of the voting American public. our Commander in Chief is now the butt of jokes as a matter of routine. something happened on November 22nd, 1963 that is larger than the event itself and the course of the Nation seems to be irreversibly changed. since we have entered into a realm where nothing is secret or sacred we are left with the office and office-holder that we mock.
he certainly deserves mocking but it has to change.
You contradicted yourself in your last sentence. If you want people to respect the president, you can’t continue to mock this one. I tolerated Obama.
As for your assertion that disrespect started with the JFK assassination, you are partially correct. John Kennedy’s death brought Lyndon Johnson to the White House. Johnson’s expansion of the Vietnam War earned him much reticule and disrespect. Many of the people of my baby boomer generation hated him, especially those who were in college. When Nixon fell into disrepute for his illegal acts, it became more acceptable to disrespect the office of the presidency.
In addition, the anti-war movement brought a lot of the baby boomers into contact with other aspects of far left wing politics. I saw many socialist and communist adult operatives at the ant-war rallies, and their influence was greater than you might think. A fair number of those young radicals became teachers and college professors who spread their point of view to succeeding generations of students. Product of this is reflected on college campuses today.
As a former student, I can tell you that college professors whom you respected, can have a lot of influence upon your economic and political philosophies for the rest of your life. It’s okay to be disrespectful or even violent in some people’s minds, if YOU KNOW that YOU ARE RIGHT.
After Nixon there were two weak presidents, Ford and Carter, followed by Ronald Reagan whom the progressive movement genuinely disliked. You throw in the vote counting debacle after the 2000 presidential election, and you have all the makings for the sharp divide we have today.
Bill, not really, it's just an incorrectly structured sentence.
(by his behavior and the things he says) he certainly deserves mocking but it(his behavior and the things he says) has to change.
I always hold out Hope and I can't see this President sustaining his actions for an entire four years. there will be a breaking point somewhere, I don't know the who/what/when/where/how of it, but the social mood and political "sound of the past year will eventually prove unbearable.
the Hope that I alluded to is that the President himself will somehow alter his course, but to my core I believe he is incapable of that change.
Bill, I will give you Johnson and Carter in the agreement, please get off Reagan. he is not the Political hero the right continually views him as. the "divide" began with him and has grown wider --- think trickle-down.
Has anyone ever done a pole to see what percentage liberal-conservative the board members are? I bet it's 80% conservative. What is the average age 65 and white? Go ahead and buy your Trump memorabilia people.
RIP, epcjimi1
Another president will come and go, and history will be written without us all, one day.
That's a good idea. Let's inject some identity politics into the forum so we can pick out groups of people to hate on, like old white guys for starters.
We obviously don't have enough to argue about with just coins as the focus.
Hah, I am 1 of the old white guys to hate on and by the way I mean "poll" - where's my coffee?
BTW, the passage of time tends to erase certain memories. Presidents that are thought of as beloved icons today were despised by around half the country in their time. Lincoln was as hated as one can be, by half the country. FDR also had serious opponents in every election he ran in, and based on some political memorabilia I inherited, there was strong sentiment against him running for a 3rd term (and presumably a 4th as well).
i thought liberals were against using age, race, and politics to discriminate against an entire group of people...
Yep, I'm past 65 and white, one of "bad guys" so far as you are concerned, and I support much of what Trump wants because I believe in capitalism and economic freedom. The system is not perfect, but it beats the planned economy model, which has failed continually through history.
As for Trump memorabilia, I have a few Trump and Clinton buttons because I have a collection of political pieces that date from George Washington's time. I bought the Trump inaugural medal because I have a fair sized collection of those as well.
Trump was not even close to my first choice in the primaries. I voted for him in the general election more because he wasn't the other candidate more than anything else. If that makes me an ogre in your eyes, then so be it.
I believe in democracy and freedom and not the top down approach to government. I also believe in honesty. I think that people who work hard and succeed should enjoy the fruits of their labor. I don't think that those who sit around and do little or nothing for themselves should live as well as those who work. I know that does not agree with socialist model, but I am not a socialist.
Only when they interact with other liberals.
Is it too much to ask to have an apolitical hobby board? I come here to escape politics.
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
So do I-- Yet neither of us could resist opening the thread...
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Well I'm well under 65 but white and conservative. Two out of three ain't bad. The current state of the union leaves me no choice to to rethink my position going forward. I know I can't align with current administration. Zero chance. I may have to defect to the other side or pick my spots. There are lots of us facing this choice. Zero chance of me buying anything associated with this Trump medal.
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Buying the medal is not an endorsement of Trump. I am not a huge Franklin Roosevelt fan. Ditto even more when it comes to Woodrow Wilson. Yet I have all of their inaugural medals, a total of seven pieces. The FDR Inaugural Committee issued two minor varieties in 1941.
Noted Bill
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
But you bought ten of them.... j/k
I have been picking up duplicates of the 1973 bronze Nixon Inaugural medal when they are cheap enough. I have the one I got in 1973 still in the plastic wrap, but they are plentiful and cheap so I have bought more. Aside from the potential for controversy over the subject matter (they show two people who resigned from office), they are nicely done (by the Franklin Mint in its heyday) and a huge chunk of solid bronze. My goal is to have something artistic done with them - maybe have Hobo nickel artists have a go at them, or have some made into who knows what. I figure they might make for a quirky specialized collection some day.
I like it, full employment and higher stock prices. This is one medal I may own.
Cannot pass it up: Voters had to make a choice between two horrid candidates. The election outcome as determined by the COTUS did not match the popular vote. I find the result to be just about perfect in that the voters installed their choice, yet minimized the winner's claim to a mandate. One has to understand that sometimes things really do have a way of working out. I could go on for several paragraphs concerning how a truly, historically, special chance to have a POTUS Sanders was lost, but I won't. The depiction on the medal is not flattering.
Love the Colonel Sanders coin. Hilarious
It's been like this for a few years now. It is nice. About the only thing that is. By all means buy the medal. Buy two. The medal is vile. To that the artist nailed it I guess in retrospect. Fitting
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
There hasn't been a rush on getting inaugural medals out the past few administrations because we no longer have a republic, nor a representative government, let alone a two party system...reference to George Carlin's "the big club."
I'd post link here but probably would get in trouble....
WWE wrestlers have as much credibility as all our politicians...blame corporate media for your troubles- not each other.
I like anything Trump and while I find this Medal boring I appreciate you sharing it and like the story you provided. You will see some more Great thing to come
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