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225th Mint Anniversary $100 Gold Coin

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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    We already complained about it in this thread

    I think the stars ruined what could have been a nice coin.
    They are way out of proportion and instead of LIBERTY it comes out looking like LIRFRTY
    Also the inside of her ear looks like a 5th star framed between the two points of the star above it.

    Hopefully they'll do a silver version and the design might look better on a larger sized coin?

    I'd buy one of each and It could be a good investment if everybody hates it and sales are very low.
    I could sell it for a small fortune if somebody else decides they like it years down the road.

  • cmanbbcmanbb Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2017 11:12AM

    Oh....didn't see that. Move along then.

  • gtstanggtstang Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I really dislike the reverse! The eagle looks sad and defeated, definitely not soaring.

  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭

    @cmanbb said:
    What do you think?

    Fit the tail to the edge of the coin. MHO

  • aus3000tinaus3000tin Posts: 369 ✭✭✭

    Smaller stars, maybe 13 to symbolize the 13 original colonies.
    Smaller "Liberty" to fit in the coin so the model is not blocking the word.
    Smaller eagle to fit in the coin.
    Have the wings upward to show it's soaring. Downward wings make it look like it's plummeting.
    There is NO mention of the 225 anniversary of the US Mint.
    It would have been nice to have an image of the original mint on the coin, instead of the model/eagle combo.
    Honestly, what does the model on the observe symbolize ??
    With a mixed-race model & the 1792 date, this symbolizes something else in my mind, NOT the anniversary of our US Mint.

    Just another example of the POOR quality of products our current US Mint produces.

    This coin is a total STRIKE OUT.

    Just my opinion.

    Chris

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @aus3000tin said:
    Smaller stars, maybe 13 to symbolize the 13 original colonies.
    Smaller "Liberty" to fit in the coin so the model is not blocking the word.
    Smaller eagle to fit in the coin.
    Have the wings upward to show it's soaring. Downward wings make it look like it's plummeting.
    There is NO mention of the 225 anniversary of the US Mint.
    It would have been nice to have an image of the original mint on the coin, instead of the model/eagle combo.
    Honestly, what does the model on the observe symbolize ??
    With a mixed-race model & the 1792 date, this symbolizes something else in my mind, NOT the anniversary of our US Mint.

    Just another example of the POOR quality of products our current US Mint produces.

    This coin is a total STRIKE OUT.

    Just my opinion.

    Chris

    Actually, it DOES mention the 225th anniversary... on the edge.

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:

    @aus3000tin said:
    Smaller stars, maybe 13 to symbolize the 13 original colonies.
    Smaller "Liberty" to fit in the coin so the model is not blocking the word.
    Smaller eagle to fit in the coin.
    Have the wings upward to show it's soaring. Downward wings make it look like it's plummeting.
    There is NO mention of the 225 anniversary of the US Mint.
    It would have been nice to have an image of the original mint on the coin, instead of the model/eagle combo.
    Honestly, what does the model on the observe symbolize ??
    With a mixed-race model & the 1792 date, this symbolizes something else in my mind, NOT the anniversary of our US Mint.

    Just another example of the POOR quality of products our current US Mint produces.

    This coin is a total STRIKE OUT.

    Just my opinion.

    Chris

    Actually, it DOES mention the 225th anniversary... on the edge.

  • aus3000tinaus3000tin Posts: 369 ✭✭✭

    But it would be nice to see the anniversary notion on the obverse or reverse, NOT on the edge of the coin.
    WHO looks there ??

  • mrhighgrademrhighgrade Posts: 58 ✭✭✭

    That's one ugly coin.

  • aus3000tinaus3000tin Posts: 369 ✭✭✭

    Imagine the Presidential coins have this with only the US President's name on the "3rd side" of the coin.
    Would you really collect all the US Presidents dollar coins to build a set if they ALL looked the same tucked in a Whitman Folder ???

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @aus3000tin said:
    But it would be nice to see the anniversary notion on the obverse or reverse, NOT on the edge of the coin.
    WHO looks there ??

    I disagree, the special anniversary designation works best in the background....ergo the edge-incused inscription.

    How many modern Mint issued coins have the special anniversary inscription on the obverse or reverse?

    Educate me.

  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1976 comes to mind

  • aus3000tinaus3000tin Posts: 369 ✭✭✭

    How many modern Mint issued coins have the special anniversary inscription on the obverse or reverse?

    Educate me.

    I'm thinking Washington State/National Park quarters & US Presidents Dollars, as well as, US Commemeratives.

  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As well as the 1964-2014 Kennedy.

    Maybe I just don't like edge inscribed coins...

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the Eagle ... and the downward wings are part of flight...they could never achieve lofty heights without that movement..... Cheers, RickO

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,057 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Has the mint determined the mintage limit yet?

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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Aren't the dates 1792 and 2017 also to either side of the bust on the obverse? I'd say that about (over)does it...

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i like it. i like the big stars, the high relief, the edge lettering, the eagle. it's not the best coin i have ever seen, but certainly not the worst either. i think i will buy one.

  • nk1nknk1nk Posts: 480 ✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I like the Eagle ... and the downward wings are part of flight...they could never achieve lofty heights without that movement..... Cheers, RickO

    Nice thoughts and I agree.

  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 13, 2017 9:10AM

    i do wish the lettering on the obv and rev matched

  • KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @steveben said:
    i like it. i like the big stars, the high relief, the edge lettering, the eagle. it's not the best coin i have ever seen, but certainly not the worst either. i think i will buy one.

    Ditto


  • KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    April 6th @ noon is the announced date of sales. 100,000 mintage.


  • 2ltdjorn2ltdjorn Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭✭

    Actually I will buy one, I discussed with my wife who has 0 interest in coins, she mentioned she would like to get one and I told her I was planning on getting one... She said no this would be for my collection....

    So its already added one collector to the aging and greying population of coin collectors.

    Thus I am for this, and any effort that is made to promote and draw collectors.

    WTB... errors, New Orleans gold, and circulated 20th key date coins!
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,057 ✭✭✭✭✭

    With a mintage of 100,000 I don't think this would make a good investment although I doubt it will ever sell out. Buy one if you like the design but don't buy one thinking it will sell out and you can then sell it for a good profit.

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  • KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2017 7:13PM

    Mint adds American Liberty high-relief photos to library

    Full article from Mint News Blog
    mintnewsblog.com/mint-adds-american-liberty-high-relief-photos-to-library-announces-release-of-2017-proof-sets-on-march-29/

    edited to add

    They look like drawings rather than photos to me. The Mint has done this before several times. More "photos" in the article.


  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ok, now I can't stop looking at the bobtail

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  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    edited March 28, 2017 9:31AM

    @MsMorrisine said:
    ok, now I can't stop looking at the bobtail

    Bobtail probably represents the perceived "imperfect" modern America, That sort of thing. An America without tail feathers to provide guidance. Etc., etc, etc.

  • SangoSango Posts: 177 ✭✭✭

    I like it

    I don't think, however, they'll reach 100k. That's quite a few.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,767 ✭✭✭✭✭

    nice coin over all but not for me.

  • KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Excerpts from Mint News Blog

    2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary gold coin available April 6

    A threshold of $24,999 applies to credit-card purchases made on the website.

    To maximize availability of this historic coin to the public, the Mint is not imposing a household order limit. The Mint will also accept orders at its sales counters in Washington, D.C.; Philadelphia; and Denver. Sales will be open to all members of the public, including dealers. Mintage is limited to 100,000 units.

    My question is whether sale being basically limited to stock on hand at sales counters, will dealers attempt to control the market and buy thousands?

    Will the mint's ordering system clog up from the demand resulting in freezes experienced previously?

    Will this be a sell out? If so, how long will it take?


  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,057 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll really stick my neck out and say it won't sell out.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 2015 took around 6 months to sell out it's 50K mintage. The 2017 will also be $200 more than the 2015.

    I think it'll be on the Mint's web site for the next 10-12 months, and die a quiet death like the Kennedy Gold. (The high-premium SLQ and WLH gold commems from last year are still available.)

    The $1700 entry price will be a hard sell. The Silver Medal will do much better than the gold, and will probably be the preferred option for many...

  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,853 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The freedom girl silver piece obverse with this reverse (keeping feathers inside the rim) would've been a better gold design TBH.

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,396 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will pass on this one and wait for the 250th anniversary version.

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  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,853 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Showed my wife this and she said the same haha

  • David1940David1940 Posts: 70 ✭✭✭

    Still waiting to see what the selling price is. I've seen a lot of hype about this coin. None of it ever includes how much it will cost.

  • 2ltdjorn2ltdjorn Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭✭

    When is going on sale?

    WTB... errors, New Orleans gold, and circulated 20th key date coins!
  • JJSingletonJJSingleton Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just another over priced mint product. Odds are in my favor that if I should ever choose to own one of these it will be much less expensive in relationship to spot on the secondary market.

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  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @David1940 said:
    Still waiting to see what the selling price is. I've seen a lot of hype about this coin. None of it ever includes how much it will cost.

    It depends on the average gold spot at London close next Wednesday. If the average is $1250-$1299, then the cost will be $1690. If the average is between $1200-$1249, the cost will be $1640. Plus shipping. (Note, you will automatically be upgraded to UPS ground, signature required because it's a PM. Don't bother with expedited shipping.)

    Gold is riding just about $1250 right now, so it could go either way.

    @2ltdjorn said:
    When is going on sale?

    April 6, Noon Eastern.

  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭

    No interest on my part. For a gold commemorative the mintage limit suggests to me that these will be available in the aftermarket for decades to come at lower prices.

    HAPPY COLLECTING!!!
  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭

    @53BKid said:
    No interest on my part. For a gold commemorative the mintage limit suggests to me that these will be available in the aftermarket for decades to come at lower prices.

    As will all US Mint coins in the future. The US Mint will never offer a profitable collectible flip again via limited minted or insanely desirably design.

    It's over with and done. Stick a fork in it.

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @epcjimi1 said:

    @53BKid said:
    No interest on my part. For a gold commemorative the mintage limit suggests to me that these will be available in the aftermarket for decades to come at lower prices.

    As will all US Mint coins in the future. The US Mint will never offer a profitable collectible flip again via limited minted or insanely desirably design.

    It's over with and done. Stick a fork in it.

    You must have missed the post about the silver eagle in a few days.

  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @epcjimi1 said:

    @53BKid said:
    No interest on my part. For a gold commemorative the mintage limit suggests to me that these will be available in the aftermarket for decades to come at lower prices.

    As will all US Mint coins in the future. The US Mint will never offer a profitable collectible flip again via limited minted or insanely desirably design.

    It's over with and done. Stick a fork in it.

    The 2015 APE was a fantastic design and had a mintage of 4,000.
    The 2016 APE had a mintage of 10,000.
    The 2016 American Liberty medals had a mintage of 12,500 from two mints.

    I wouldn't say they're over, but they will be getting more scarce...

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cameonut said:
    I will pass on this one and wait for the 250th anniversary version.

    why not get the 226th anniversary version?

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  • KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 5, 2017 1:03PM
  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I thought I would like the stars. I want to like the stars. But I just don't like the stars. No matter how hard I try. The stars are too big.

  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Buy one, and punch tiny letters into seven of the stars. Sell it in 50 years---people will wonder who HYDRANT was.

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  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 5, 2017 7:34PM

    @Sonorandesertrat said:
    Buy one, and punch tiny letters into seven of the stars. Sell it in 50 years---people will wonder who HYDRANT was.

    O.K. Will do. Only problem is that it's extremly doubtful that HYDRANT will be around in fifty years to see any profit. Other than that I still don't like the stars.

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