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  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whoa!

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,929 ✭✭✭✭✭

    SWEEEEEEEET!

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,391 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool

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  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Psychedelic reverse. Very cool B)

  • DDRDDR Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder why Trade Dollar errors are so rare?

    Perhaps the less-than-perfect ones were the first into the melting pot?

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is the first (that I remember) T$1 error that I have seen.

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  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭

    @tradedollarnut said:

    Nice coin.

  • AmazonXAmazonX Posts: 680 ✭✭✭✭

    So cool!

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not recall ever seeing an off-center Trade Dollar.
    TD

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  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DDR said:
    I wonder why Trade Dollar errors are so rare?

    Perhaps the less-than-perfect ones were the first into the melting pot?

    Wasn't the trade dollar meant to be an especially convincing, trustworthy type of coinage? If so, it was probably very important (maybe more so than other coinage?) to ensure that defects weren't released.

  • mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,232 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very, VERY cool!!!

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  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GoldenEgg said:

    @DDR said:
    I wonder why Trade Dollar errors are so rare?

    Perhaps the less-than-perfect ones were the first into the melting pot?

    Wasn't the trade dollar meant to be an especially convincing, trustworthy type of coinage? If so, it was probably very important (maybe more so than other coinage?) to ensure that defects weren't released.

    I've wondered the same and I think you're on the right track. These "coins" were under such scrutiny that they held them to a higher standard. That, and many issues had lower mintages so less chance for errors.

  • goodmoney4badmoneygoodmoney4badmoney Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Rare is an understatement, it's a true prize! Thanks for sharing!

  • SoCalBigMarkSoCalBigMark Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Kinda like 350!

  • cecropiamothcecropiamoth Posts: 969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool pull away toning reminiscent of what is seen on a lot of the Mexican cap and ray 8 reales. Is the pull away toning often seen on US trade dollars? Obviously here it is an artifact of the off center strike.

    Jeff

  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    Awesome

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very impressive.... and certainly rare... Cheers, RickO

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,809 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very cool... Never seen one like that before

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, very nice coin.

  • COINS MAKE CENTSCOINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very cool coin. Don't think I have ever seen a trade dollar error like that. Awesome!!!

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice. Certainly got by the SF Mint reviewers.

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a first for my eyes.

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  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,663 ✭✭✭

    Never seen one before. Thanks for sharing.

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's the first Off Center Trade dollar
    I recall ever seeing. Great error on a Type
    coin that doesn't have many mechanical
    errors in it.

    The Bank of Hawaii Sale, (Bowers?) maybe 10++ years ago,
    had a very large Broadstrike error in it, but even the
    Bolt Collection didn't have ANY trade dollar errors in it.

    Milt Cohen's collection had a Gem 1875 Twenty Cent piece,
    but he had no Trade Dollar errors either.

    I've had two partial Collar Trade Dollars, a few nice
    struck thru's, and that's about it for that series.

    Any history or pedigree to it? I don't remember seeing
    it before........

    Fred

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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,732 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fred,

    Since you're listing them off, I'll mention that I know of one clipped planchet on a Trade Dollar, it was owned by an east
    Coast collector and sold through North East Numismatics several years ago, no idea where it is now.

    Sean Reynolds

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,198 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I definitely acquired it out of auction over a decade ago - not sure but could have been that B&M sale. Right around $20k at the time

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  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭

    Probably from this Stack's sale

    (And by probably I mean certainly)

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,198 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There we go! Good find. Exactly a decade ago

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This has been a fun thread!

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, I got the '10 years' right, but the
    auction house wrong - a wonderful
    error coin on a very very rare series
    for them........Congrats on stepping out
    on it back then -

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very cool indeed!

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,018 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Never knew this piece existed. Very nice. That's just one of many good reasons to belong here. Never know what will turn up for viewing.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,166 ✭✭✭✭✭

    thats wicked cool, i like.

  • DDRDDR Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have one cool Trade Dollar error: an 1875-S that appears to have been struck through a piece of burlap cloth.

    David
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    Carson City Silver Dollars Complete 1870-1893http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase.aspx?sc=2722"
  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a 75-S trade dollar that was struck multiple times. The authenticity of the 2nd/3rd strikes have been brought into question but after a lot of peering through a microscope and comparing to other coins of the same dies, I have high confidence the whole coin (all strikes) are the real deal.

    Unfortunately a few chopmarks muddy the picture a bit.

  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭

    A different broadstrike 78-DS trade dollar was in Bowers & Merena's May 1995 sale.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome to see this and 4 of the first 5 first strike coins! What a wonderful trade dollar collection you have!

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  • TLeverageTLeverage Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    @OriginalDan said:
    I have a 75-S trade dollar that was struck multiple times. The authenticity of the 2nd/3rd strikes have been brought into question but after a lot of peering through a microscope and comparing to other coins of the same dies, I have high confidence the whole coin (all strikes) are the real deal.

    Unfortunately a few chopmarks muddy the picture a bit.

    @OriginalDan, mind posting an image? I've never seen a chopmarked Trade with a significant error.

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 28, 2016 9:47PM

    Awesome to see this and 4 of the first 5 first strike coins! What a wonderful trade dollar collection you have!

    Oh yessssss - and an almost completely unc chopmarked set and of course the main set in unequaled condition

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