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What happened to this buff and will it grade? (colorful 1913 type 2)

clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I am pretty sure this is as-struck. Was the planchet lightly clipped? You can see another defect on the obverse side at the same position.

Will this keep it in a details holder?

I appreciate your input.

(pics by crazyhounddog - yes I keep him busy)

MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.

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  • CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Almost looks like a small clip but more likely post mint rim damage. Not sure if it would grade.

  • BruceSBruceS Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭✭✭

    nice color, looks like PMD, IMO.


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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am not an error-guy so I am not sure what causes things like this. But I have an early Lincoln with a similar effect that PCGS felt was mint-made and the coin graded 65RD.
    Lance.


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  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stunning linc, Lance!

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,995 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm very sure it's some kinda cockeyed planchet clip and is as struck. I've seen this a few times and will not stop it from receiving a numerical grade. Really pretty pastels with this one .

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  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is a rim clip.

  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a minor rim clip.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think that this is mint made and you can see the effect on the corresponding position of the obverse, too. It will straight grade, provided they like the color.

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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,954 ✭✭✭✭

    Agreed, a minor rim clip on a very attractive coin. Liking the color or not would be what pcgs weighs more than the rim clip.

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    I think that this is mint made and you can see the effect on the corresponding position of the obverse, too. It will straight grade, provided they like the color.

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,995 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've gotta say that is a seriously beautiful 13-d Lincoln, Lance!!

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is a mint made error and would probably be noted as such on the holder insert when it is graded.

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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Late to this thread but it just popped up in a search. Both coins have rim clips. Small clips like that are actually not uncommon on 1913 Buffalo nickels, I have seen examples in high grade from all three mints. The 1913-D cent clip is much less common, especially in that grade. In neither case should the rim clip preclude PCGS from certifying in a normal holder.

    Sean Reynolds

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,859 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, as mentioned by everyone above,
    it's a rim clip, or a disc clip.....genuine.

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  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The type 2 above is actually at our hosts now, so it should grade sometime later this month??

    Thanks everyone for the input.

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with the 'as minted' conclusion....there appears to be no distortion of the circumference which (IMO) would indicate PMD.... Cheers, RickO

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2016 6:24AM

    Cool dinky rim clip which shouldn't affect the grade until you near MS70 as mint errors can now only go MS69.

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