Another Head thumper, Error, oh Fred R U Busy? Edge pics added
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As Jerry Seinfeld would say, that one is real, and it is spectacular. What you have there is an off center strike on a crescent clipped planchet. I am about 95% sure that would be dated 1964, based on what design is visible and the prevalence of crescent clips known for the date. Great coin.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Sean, I believe you're correct, but because of the polishing
I'd like to see what the edges of the coin look like, to see if we
can see any 'cut/tear bands', or if they're gone due to the polishing.
Now that's cool as can be!
Neat. Could be labeled a "Boomerang" cent.
Been studying the pictures and have some vague unease over the piece, mainly due to the polishing. I suppose it could have got stuck in some mechanism due to the odd shape and been beaten down by that.
Fred, why would the arc bulge outwards adjacent to the head? Because the dies are farther apart there there should be less pressure on the piece there, not more. Perhaps the lack of pressure there to hold the metal in place allowed it to bulge?
TD
Fred, I hear you, but let me mention the biggest reason I think the coin is legit. The end of the crescent where the coin was struck appears to show a full rim and distorted shape from contact with the collar. That little detail is something a counterfeiter would assuredly never pick up or duplicate.
This is a great example of something discussed in another thread, the polishing does not diminish the appeal of this error even a little bit to me. It's unfortunate but should not impact the value much.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Supercool coin, looks legit to these eyes.
You sure picked up some neat stuff!
Very strange... almost looks as if the metal has been melted.... I believe that has had some post mint attention.... certainly a remarkable piece. Cheers, RickO
Tom, I don't believe the coin is counterfeit.
It's a genuine Off Center cent - it is possible
that someone cut it, and then polished it,
and polished it extensively.
I see the added edge photos, but they don't show
the close up 'cut & tear' marks that should be on the
edges of the coin, unless they were totally polished off too.
I've seen that 'hook' (top right of obv.) before, on a great
looking, but ultimately bandsaw cut, struck cent.
I'm not saying it was 'cut' - I'm saying that until someone
examines it in-hand, we can't come to a 100% conclusion, imo.
Interesting piece!
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Fred, did you see this one:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/971903/last-one-for-today-off-center-strike-on-straight-clip-lincoln#latest
That one looks as though possibly somebody took a legitimate but common error and recut it to look like a scarcer error.
TD
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Fred / Tom,
I am pretty sure I can still see the cut / tear marks on the unstruck portion of the planchet in this picture, which is the inside of the crescent clip. Also, if this were a genuine off center that was cut with a bandsaw to resemble a crescent clip, I think there would be far less of the design struck. If you follow the curve of the unstruck part of the coin, the original would have had to be about 60% off center, and the rim would not have struck up as fully next to the A.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor