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My Baltimore Auction Purchase, an 1836 half eagle.

BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
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This turned out to be the one piece is the auction that worked for me. It does have a slight rub in the obverse fields, but it has a lot of luster and great eye appeal. The grade is PCGS MS-61.


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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow! Does it have some PL-characteristics as well?

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  • BustCudsBustCuds Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭

    Somebody had a very successful Baltimore Show.

    Congratulations on a very nice Classic Half Eagle.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    Wow! Does it have some PL-characteristics as well?

    Yes, it is very flashy and well struck. The debate really comes down to, which is the biggest fault, marks or a slight rub? With these coins, which really are very scarce in true Mint State, it should not make that much of a difference to the true collector. Stacks' commented that it looks like it should have graded higher.

    Maybe, maybe not, but to me is worth a review or a crack-out ... it's just very nice for the grade.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BustCuds said:
    Somebody had a very successful Baltimore Show.

    Congratulations on a very nice Classic Half Eagle.

    Believe me, it took a lot of digging to find the nice coins, as often seems to be the case these days. I found one piece on the Internet that I bought at the show, which was neither of these coins. It was a Classic Quarter eagle.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,521 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very sharp looking coin, Bill.

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  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 5,882 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice half eagle Bill!

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2016 3:01PM

    @BillJones said:
    Believe me, it took a lot of digging to find the nice coins, as often seems to be the case these days.

    Beautiful looking coin Bill! You have a great eye and are a wonderful historian as well. Congrats on finding such a nice coin.

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  • Jackthecat1Jackthecat1 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭

    That is a beautiful coin!

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  • jonrunsjonruns Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love this series...the well struck ones like yours are scarce...and when well struck many do have PL surfaces...nice pick up!!!

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,375 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice looking coin... Congrats

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  • HandHHandH Posts: 438 ✭✭✭

    Great half eagle, Bill.

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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    ... it's just very nice for the grade.

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    That's the criteria for an excellent purchase. Congratulations!

  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very pretty! But I'm guessing you'd probably prefer it as an AU58 or AU58+ .... in both cases possibly worth more to some.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful gold coin Bill... Congratulations.... Cheers, RickO

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wonderful strike! Looks to have been wiped on the reverse fields as well, and too bad about the cloudy slab plastic obscuring the image, but overall, great piece for the grade and a nice addition to your fine collection. Congrats!

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  • AblinkyAblinky Posts: 628 ✭✭✭

    Great looking coin.

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  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    WOW, looks like you had a fun and productive show, she's a beauty, Congrats again

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  • rainbowlover1rainbowlover1 Posts: 402 ✭✭✭

    Very nice coin! It's always nice to own carrier of a piece of history!!!

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great addition!

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice!
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  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    Yes, it is very flashy and well struck. The debate really comes down to, which is the biggest fault, marks or a slight rub? With these coins, which really are very scarce in true Mint State, it should not make that much of a difference to the true collector.

    this is what tradedollarnut said in his video about his seated dollar collection. the luster was more important than marks in the higher grades.

    this coin has a sharp strike and i believe it does has a lot of luster. i think that's why someone put it aside from the get go, and it probably just got a bit mishandled/wiped over time by someone who didn't know any better.

    i have heard coin cabinet friction causes this as well. however, it takes a lot of friction to mark a gold coin with velvet or cotton. i have tried it on a piece that was only worth melt anyway...it takes quite a lot to make even wispy scratches.

    congrats!

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think that the coin has been whipped. I think that it is probably cabinet friction.

    I did pass on a 1795 Bust Dollar that had been whipped, however. I have been looking for the variety for years, but shiny obverse fields made me pass on the coin.

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cabinet friction tends to occur on the high points of the coins: the cheek, the hair over the ear, the high points of the curls, and on the reverse, the wing tips, high points of head and neck, the eagle's talons.

    All those areas look fine to me, spectacular even, due to the outstanding strike of this coin.

    The parallel lines in the field, which are the low points of the coin, are what caused me to make my observation.

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    But hey, you're the one that tilted and rotated the coin under the light and looked at it with your loupe, I'm just going by what I see in the images, and my experience as to image interpretation. Great coin, and I think the graders got it right.

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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like you had fun..... Nice.



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  • RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,117 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin!

    Is it a scruffed up holder, or is a portion of the left wing strike obliterated?

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a scuff on the holder. I'll have to buff that one out with some headlight polish.

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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have the same date and like it a whole bunch.

    Mine is a 58 and needle sharp with lots of P/L luster.


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