OK, I am trying to be patient as I don't have choice I guess that is tough tooties. Anyway, Love seeing your posts. I am waiting on the '33 goldie, the '45 Peace and the large size '79 Ike which I believe will come in two separate shipments.
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
@7Jaguars said:
OK, I am trying to be patient as I don't have choice I guess that is tough tooties. Anyway, Love seeing your posts. I am waiting on the '33 goldie, the '45 Peace and the large size '79 Ike which I believe will come in two separate shipments.
I had Dan ship all of them together (all the ones you listed). You may get them in one package as well. I just got mine on Saturday (registered was very fast - only took 4 days).
@SPalladino said: @dcarr -
I spotted this in your production blog. Beautiful! I have to get one! Can you reveal the 3rd party, if it is a re-seller?
Amazing! Would be great to have a Proof / Proof-Like version as well!
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The photo is about as proof-like as these will be. Over-striking a proof finish, while simultaneously changing the design significantly, usually results in a lot of host coin artifacts that remain visible.
PS:
If anyone is interested in one of these as shown, please send me a private message.
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I did receive at last my three "Danny" coins: 1933 gold $5, 1945 Peace dollar, and silver 1979 Ike.
Commentary: I too found the half eagle to be quite coppery in presentation, the Peace dollar BEAUTIFUL, and was wishing for an "S" mintmark on the Ike (as a native Californian would!).
This makes me wonder if gold blanks were originally pickled by the US Mint to leach out surface copper and give a more golden appearance to the struck coins???
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
@7Jaguars said:
I did receive at last my three "Danny" coins: 1933 gold $5, 1945 Peace dollar, and silver 1979 Ike.
Commentary: I too found the half eagle to be quite coppery in presentation, the Peace dollar BEAUTIFUL, and was wishing for an "S" mintmark on the Ike (as a native Californian would!).
This makes me wonder if gold blanks were originally pickled by the US Mint to leach out surface copper and give a more golden appearance to the struck coins???
.
I think yes, the US Mint leached copper off of the surface of gold planchets.
I might experiment with doing that next time.
@SPalladino said: @dcarr -
I spotted this in your production blog. Beautiful! I have to get one! Can you reveal the 3rd party, if it is a re-seller?
Amazing! Would be great to have a Proof / Proof-Like version as well!
.
The photo is about as proof-like as these will be. Over-striking a proof finish, while simultaneously changing the design significantly, usually results in a lot of host coin artifacts that remain visible.
PS:
If anyone is interested in one of these as shown, please send me a private message.
.
FWIW, the third party seller is Chopper's Coin and Collectible Network. The 1887-CC Morgan pattern does not appear on their website yet, but is available through them. Call their phone order hotline, listed on their shopccn.com website.
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
@7Jaguars said:
I did receive at last my three "Danny" coins: 1933 gold $5, 1945 Peace dollar, and silver 1979 Ike.
Commentary: I too found the half eagle to be quite coppery in presentation, the Peace dollar BEAUTIFUL, and was wishing for an "S" mintmark on the Ike (as a native Californian would!).
This makes me wonder if gold blanks were originally pickled by the US Mint to leach out surface copper and give a more golden appearance to the struck coins???
.
I think yes, the US Mint leached copper off of the surface of gold planchets.
I might experiment with doing that next time.
If I may: immersing blanks in acid solution, oftentimes called “pickling” leaches or dissolves off the lesser metal which would be copper leaving a higher percentage of the gold in the alloy at the surface of the blank.
The resulting coin struck would then have a surface more golden in color.
This was also done to lesser percentage silver alloy coins to keep the appearance of better quality silver - like when the Royal Mint in 1920 decreased silver content from 92.5% to 50%. Newly struck coins appeared to be of the better metal.
In addendum, and a bit unrelated - I have often wondered how the Mexico pesos of c. 1957-67 vintage that are only 10% silver alloy content can appear so "silvery" on surface. I don't think they are "sandwich" coins of higher percentage on outside layers and less to inner Ala the 1965-70 Kennedy halves but rather blanched as above.
Back to the gold portion: I have put worn US $2.5 Indians in mild acid and has improved the surface to some extent but would be reluctant to put my recently acquired 1933 Carr $5 to such....
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
@cheezhed said: @dcarr are the dies engraved like that or are they actually clashed to form the double die?
@GRANDAM said:
Since I was born in 1958 and I always wanted a 1955 Double Die Lincoln Cent I loaded up on the 1958 coins.
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The doubling is in the die engraving. That is how it was sculpted.
The 1958-D Lincoln/Wheat cent has a special meaning in my case:
It is the last year for the Wheat reverse (the only truly Art Deco design the US Mint has produced, in my opinion);
1958 is also my birth year;
"D" (Denver) is my birth place;
The person depicted on the coin (Abraham Lincoln) is my cousin (we are both descended from Penelope Stout).
PS (a little known fact) :
Zebulon Pike is also descended from Penelope Stout, so that makes him my cousin as well.
And so, by association, Zebulon Pike and Abraham Lincoln are cousins of each other.
@7Jaguars said:
DC - how about a 1959 wheat back penny (cent) Sir??
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There is the controversial 1959-D Wheat cent out there. I mention it in my product description for the "1958-D" Memorial:
"The first year that the Lincoln Memorial reverse was used for the Lincoln cent was 1959 (on the occasion of the sesquicentennial of Lincoln’s birth in 1809). There exists a single known (and very controversial) “1959-D” Lincoln cent with the Wheat reverse. Experts disagree on whether or not it is a genuine issue. The realized price for this controversial piece in auction indicates that it is generally believed to be a privately-made “fantasy”, although that realized price was still considerable. The “1958-D” with Memorial reverse is the reciprocal “fantasy” issue to the “1959-D” Wheat reverse. Struck over 1959-D Lincoln/Memorial Cents. "
@7Jaguars said:
But Dan does the US mint acknowledge the coin? Like Clacker says: sign me up and "take my money"!
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You mean that "1959-D" Wheat Cent ?
I think at one time that item was sent to the US Mint and/or Secret Service and they indicated that it was genuine.
But I think all they really did was check the dimensions, weight, and composition. Since it was likely struck on a US Mint bronze cent planchet, it would pass those tests. The real question is the origin of the dies that struck it. It looks like replica dies to me, but I could also see how someone would conclude that it was struck from genuine dies.
Yes, I believe that was the coin.My recollection is that mint personnel never did offer opinion and that it was the Secret Service, technically a branch of the US Department of the Treasury that had examined the coin. My point was that I had thought as long as there did not officially exist such a coin that it might be fair game to be struck by you or others???
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
In the 80's I ran a free weekly ad in NN looking for outrageous errors.
That was before I began using the words outlandish or shenanigans when currently describing fun mint sport examples.
The 1959 Wheatie images got offered to me with the secret service letter in the mail back then. I have the xerox letter in storage. 10 years of neglected storage but I see it when I think of it.
Interesting ??? Yes but just to me, maybe.
As no price was quoted I moved on to my favorite items to purchase which are goodies with seller's price desired. I am glad there was no price included on 59 1c wheat issue as it has been pretty much poo~poo'd since.
@7Jaguars said:
Yes, I believe that was the coin.My recollection is that mint personnel never did offer opinion and that it was the Secret Service, technically a branch of the US Department of the Treasury that had examined the coin. My point was that I had thought as long as there did not officially exist such a coin that it might be fair game to be struck by you or others???
I assume we scratch at the earth looking for a goodie.
This had remained available for a week, and I wondered, then I decided I had to have it at full admission price in my Carr Archive. Obviously scuttled to avoid Angry Japan seizing the Philippine treasury and decades later wandering into a Denver Mint press owned by an artist to create/strike a new history. Exonumia is a big tent in coin hobby. Happy January 2025 ! Had I not owned this one , the loss of this one would have haunted me. I know as a few other items haunt me.
I hadn't looked at the obverse design of the 'revenge of the dragon' medal in detail, so I hadn't noticed the Pistrucci 'St George slaying the dragon' near the bottom. That made me pull the trigger and order this one.
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
@SPalladino said:
I hadn't looked at the obverse design of the 'revenge of the dragon' medal in detail, so I hadn't noticed the Pistrucci 'St George slaying the dragon' near the bottom. That made me pull the trigger and order this one.
I'm glad I saw this post, I went to add the 'revenge of the dragon' and noticed I didn't complete
my order, so I just added it.
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OK, I am trying to be patient as I don't have choice I guess that is tough tooties. Anyway, Love seeing your posts. I am waiting on the '33 goldie, the '45 Peace and the large size '79 Ike which I believe will come in two separate shipments.
Well, just Love coins, period.
I mailed my Brass, Silver and GOLD $5 Indians off today to ICG to be graded.
I had Dan ship all of them together (all the ones you listed). You may get them in one package as well. I just got mine on Saturday (registered was very fast - only took 4 days).
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@Twobitcollector Where did the 1887CC Morgan come from? I don’t see it on the Moonlight website. Thanks
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Discussed on these previous posts...
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Just back from ANACS
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Looks great! I wanted to get a silver one but missed out. Maybe one will pop up for resale one day.
These are on the way back from ANACS
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I did receive at last my three "Danny" coins: 1933 gold $5, 1945 Peace dollar, and silver 1979 Ike.
Commentary: I too found the half eagle to be quite coppery in presentation, the Peace dollar BEAUTIFUL, and was wishing for an "S" mintmark on the Ike (as a native Californian would!).
This makes me wonder if gold blanks were originally pickled by the US Mint to leach out surface copper and give a more golden appearance to the struck coins???
Well, just Love coins, period.
.
I think yes, the US Mint leached copper off of the surface of gold planchets.
I might experiment with doing that next time.
.
FWIW, the third party seller is Chopper's Coin and Collectible Network. The 1887-CC Morgan pattern does not appear on their website yet, but is available through them. Call their phone order hotline, listed on their shopccn.com website.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
Please explain.
If I may: immersing blanks in acid solution, oftentimes called “pickling” leaches or dissolves off the lesser metal which would be copper leaving a higher percentage of the gold in the alloy at the surface of the blank.
The resulting coin struck would then have a surface more golden in color.
This was also done to lesser percentage silver alloy coins to keep the appearance of better quality silver - like when the Royal Mint in 1920 decreased silver content from 92.5% to 50%. Newly struck coins appeared to be of the better metal.
In addendum, and a bit unrelated - I have often wondered how the Mexico pesos of c. 1957-67 vintage that are only 10% silver alloy content can appear so "silvery" on surface. I don't think they are "sandwich" coins of higher percentage on outside layers and less to inner Ala the 1965-70 Kennedy halves but rather blanched as above.
Back to the gold portion: I have put worn US $2.5 Indians in mild acid and has improved the surface to some extent but would be reluctant to put my recently acquired 1933 Carr $5 to such....
Well, just Love coins, period.
Not sure if it was posted but a lot of new stuff on Dan's site.
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$5 Type Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/type-sets/half-eagle-type-set-circulation-strikes-1795-1929/album/344192
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572
Since I was born in 1958 and I always wanted a 1955 Double Die Lincoln Cent I loaded up on the 1958 coins.
Grabbed a couple as well!
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Thank you for the head's up.
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- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
The Double Die looks amazing, so would double dates like 1966, 1977, 1988, 1999. 1944, 1933, 1922, 1911, 1900.
Triple Die for triple dates. 1888, 1999
I just purchased the 1958-D's also
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@dcarr are the dies engraved like that or are they actually clashed to form the double die?
DC - how about a 1959 wheat back penny (cent) Sir??
Well, just Love coins, period.
.
The doubling is in the die engraving. That is how it was sculpted.
The 1958-D Lincoln/Wheat cent has a special meaning in my case:
It is the last year for the Wheat reverse (the only truly Art Deco design the US Mint has produced, in my opinion);
1958 is also my birth year;
"D" (Denver) is my birth place;
The person depicted on the coin (Abraham Lincoln) is my cousin (we are both descended from Penelope Stout).
PS (a little known fact) :
Zebulon Pike is also descended from Penelope Stout, so that makes him my cousin as well.
And so, by association, Zebulon Pike and Abraham Lincoln are cousins of each other.
.
.
There is the controversial 1959-D Wheat cent out there. I mention it in my product description for the "1958-D" Memorial:
"The first year that the Lincoln Memorial reverse was used for the Lincoln cent was 1959 (on the occasion of the sesquicentennial of Lincoln’s birth in 1809). There exists a single known (and very controversial) “1959-D” Lincoln cent with the Wheat reverse. Experts disagree on whether or not it is a genuine issue. The realized price for this controversial piece in auction indicates that it is generally believed to be a privately-made “fantasy”, although that realized price was still considerable. The “1958-D” with Memorial reverse is the reciprocal “fantasy” issue to the “1959-D” Wheat reverse. Struck over 1959-D Lincoln/Memorial Cents. "
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I’m a bit interested in the “Dragon’s revenge”. Strange coin but dragon is my lunar year symbol. Nice low mintage so far
But Dan does the US mint acknowledge the coin? Like Clacker says: sign me up and "take my money"!
Well, just Love coins, period.
.
You mean that "1959-D" Wheat Cent ?
I think at one time that item was sent to the US Mint and/or Secret Service and they indicated that it was genuine.
But I think all they really did was check the dimensions, weight, and composition. Since it was likely struck on a US Mint bronze cent planchet, it would pass those tests. The real question is the origin of the dies that struck it. It looks like replica dies to me, but I could also see how someone would conclude that it was struck from genuine dies.
.
Yes, I believe that was the coin.My recollection is that mint personnel never did offer opinion and that it was the Secret Service, technically a branch of the US Department of the Treasury that had examined the coin. My point was that I had thought as long as there did not officially exist such a coin that it might be fair game to be struck by you or others???
Well, just Love coins, period.
In the 80's I ran a free weekly ad in NN looking for outrageous errors.
That was before I began using the words outlandish or shenanigans when currently describing fun mint sport examples.
The 1959 Wheatie images got offered to me with the secret service letter in the mail back then. I have the xerox letter in storage. 10 years of neglected storage but I see it when I think of it.
Interesting ??? Yes but just to me, maybe.
As no price was quoted I moved on to my favorite items to purchase which are goodies with seller's price desired. I am glad there was no price included on 59 1c wheat issue as it has been pretty much poo~poo'd since.
I'd like to see a 5oz version of The Year of the Dragon Medal.
I assume we scratch at the earth looking for a goodie.
This had remained available for a week, and I wondered, then I decided I had to have it at full admission price in my Carr Archive. Obviously scuttled to avoid Angry Japan seizing the Philippine treasury and decades later wandering into a Denver Mint press owned by an artist to create/strike a new history. Exonumia is a big tent in coin hobby. Happy January 2025 ! Had I not owned this one , the loss of this one would have haunted me. I know as a few other items haunt me.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/286259400255
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At some point I will probably use that Dragon sculpt (without Saint George) in some other format. A 3-oz 50mm is possible.
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I hadn't looked at the obverse design of the 'revenge of the dragon' medal in detail, so I hadn't noticed the Pistrucci 'St George slaying the dragon' near the bottom. That made me pull the trigger and order this one.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
Just back from ANACS
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I'm glad I saw this post, I went to add the 'revenge of the dragon' and noticed I didn't complete
my order, so I just added it.
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That would be great! I think it looks good on a 1oz round. I think it would look great on a larger round.
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Hi Dennis,
Why can’t I find these one in Dan’s Minted Item⁉️
Very cool piece ‼️👍
These are for sale on Northeast Num site. Priced at $300. They claim a mintage of 250.
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Thanks pcgscagold‼️👍
I received notice it was shipped today.
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Have any of Moonlight mint 1933 “native head” coins come to the after market? Gold, silver, or brass?
saw one on eBay the other day.
The first pic for the 1958 Double Die was posted on Ebay-
If anyone missed seeing my collection, it was posted here with updates.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1110842/updated-daniel-carr-coin-collection