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djm
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As some of you know approximately $100,000 worth of coins were stolen from my home. The Police recovered about $6,000 worth of coins from various locations. Some of the buyers were more cooperative in returning the coins than others.
One of the business that returned coins filed "theft by deception" charges against the guy who sold him the coins. I think he knew the coins were stolen as he was going to sell stuff several times a week. This business got $5 Modern Commemorative gold coins and turned over about a roll of Jefferson Nickels. From what I understand he paid $125 for the 1/4 oz. gold coin, he is looking for $175 in restitution. Bottom line he pays $2.00 for $50 dollars and 1/4 oz. of gold.
I got a call from the ADA Friday asking me to testify in the case for the business owner. There is no upside for me to going. The business owner would get $175.
Would you go and help out the crooked business owner.
One of the business that returned coins filed "theft by deception" charges against the guy who sold him the coins. I think he knew the coins were stolen as he was going to sell stuff several times a week. This business got $5 Modern Commemorative gold coins and turned over about a roll of Jefferson Nickels. From what I understand he paid $125 for the 1/4 oz. gold coin, he is looking for $175 in restitution. Bottom line he pays $2.00 for $50 dollars and 1/4 oz. of gold.
I got a call from the ADA Friday asking me to testify in the case for the business owner. There is no upside for me to going. The business owner would get $175.
Would you go and help out the crooked business owner.
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bob
As some of you know approximately $100,000 worth of coins were stolen from my home. The Police recovered about $6,000 worth of coins from various locations. Some of the buyers were more cooperative in returning the coins than others.
One of the business that returned coins filed "theft by deception" charges against the guy who sold him the coins. I think he knew the coins were stolen as he was going to sell stuff several times a week. This business got $5 Modern Commemorative gold coins and turned over about a roll of Jefferson Nickels. From what I understand he paid $125 for the 1/4 oz. gold coin, he is looking for $175 in restitution. Bottom line he pays $2.00 for $50 dollars and 1/4 oz. of gold.
I got a call from the ADA Friday asking me to testify in the case for the business owner. There is no upside for me to going. The business owner would get $175.
Would you go and help out the crooked business owner.
If you don't go, don't ask for law enforcement's help ever again. You are not assisting the business owner. You are assisting law enforcement.
I agree, if you want the police and prosecutor to be motivated to help you, then you have to help them meet their goals.
The police and the prosecutor are not helping me at all. I don't have my coins and will never have my coins they were melted down the day they walked in the door. The only reason the police did anything is they were tracked to the shop.
If they were actually prosecuting for stealing the coins I would go and testify. I feel that helping the crooked business man only sends the massage that dealing in stolen merchandise is socially acceptable and their is money to be made
Nor will they in the future............
bob
The important thing is that you stay on the good side of the police. You may need them again in the not too distant future on other matters such as credit card fraud. I was recently the victim of credit card fraud and filed a police report; the first time I have done that. The crooks are getting more sophisticated (something the police confirmed) and you need to keep the police interested if you have to file another complaint. The fact that you are possibly helping another crook by testifying is unfortunate but not doing so may end up being to your detriment down the road.
I have to agree with 291fifth ten thousand percent. As I heard a Federal Prosecutor say one time: "If you screw me and do not testify, I am going to **** you hard whenever I get the chance!" You need to be on the good side of the law even though you do not agree with them now.
FYI: I gave the police a 9 type page list of items that were taken -- No Nickels were on this list.
If anybody wants this deal let me know: I give you a roll of nickels You give me $175 in cash plus 1/4 oz. gold coin
I think you guys are missing the point here. I am NOT the VICTIM in this case. The fence is the victim. I would merely be a witness to help this guy steal more money because he did not follow the rules. I have not been served with supena.
FYI: I gave the police a 9 type page list of items that were taken -- No Nickels were on this list.
If anybody wants this deal let me know: I give you a roll of nickels You give me $175 in cash plus 1/4 oz. gold coin
Not to get off the track but this was the first I have heard of this, it just makes me feel sick for you. was this just a random act or did they know you had the coins? Either way I am sorry for what happened to you.
Bob
Yes, I'd go and tell the truth as to value. I'd have a red book in hand.
bob
This!
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
It was not a random act. They knew that I had coins in the house.
Here's what happened at the court:
It was just me, the ADA, and the defense lawyer. The court didn't bother to transport the defendant in from the local holding facility. The shop owner sold the business and moved out of the country. The police had no interest in the case.
I did get to see the State's evidence. It was a picture of the pile of nickels that the shop owner claims he paid $125 for. A sticky note that said $50 for 5 Silver Dollars not pictured. The copy of the ID which expired in 2013, 2 years before the items were sold.
The case was dismissed as the State couldn't proceed with out the victim. The Assistant District Attorney was also trying another case, so I had to wait around for 4 hours in the event the Judge want to ask me some questions before the case was dismissed.
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It was not a random act. They knew that I had coins in the house.
Here's what happened at the court:
It was just me, the ADA, and the defense lawyer. The court didn't bother to transport the defendant in from the local holding facility. The shop owner sold the business and moved out of the country. The police had no interest in the case.
I did get to see the State's evidence. It was a picture of the pile of nickels that the shop owner claims he paid $125 for. A sticky note that said $50 for 5 Silver Dollars not pictured. The copy of the ID which expired in 2013, 2 years before the items were sold.
The case was dismissed as the State couldn't proceed with out the victim. The Assistant District Attorney was also trying another case, so I had to wait around for 4 hours in the event the Judge want to ask me some questions before the case was dismissed.
That's the justice system these days. Judge gets paid. ADA gets paid. They don't care about cases like this, they still get a paycheck.
Hoard the keys
for your loss
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......