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I got "burned" !!!
Timbuk3
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To make a long story short, I got "burned" by a forum member.
I never received my items or a refund. My question is, is it
appropriate to identify the individual or would I get into
trouble if I posted his name. I'd like to do this to help prevent
others in becoming a potential victim.
Thanks !!!
I never received my items or a refund. My question is, is it
appropriate to identify the individual or would I get into
trouble if I posted his name. I'd like to do this to help prevent
others in becoming a potential victim.
Thanks !!!
Timbuk3
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Yes. Please identify. It will help others.
https://forums.collectors.com/...9446&enterthread=y
To make a long story short, I got "burned" by a forum member.
I never received my items or a refund. My question is, is it
appropriate to identify the individual or would I get into
trouble if I posted his name. I'd like to do this to help prevent
others in becoming a potential victim.
Thanks !!!
Was it KP Coins that burned you? There's already an on-going thread about this scammer.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Location: Canton, Ohio
User name: gregwash
Email: thegregsterscards@outlook.com
Thanks, I hope this will help others !!!
I have done a number of deals on the forum without issue. Sad a few have to destroy it...
Name: Greg Washington
Location: Canton, Ohio
User name: gregwash
Email: thegregsterscards@outlook.com
Thanks, I hope this will help others !!!
Looks like he was burning people in the cards section of the forum. Apparently there he was from Indiana. Do a search on his userid.
Cards Thread
Searched the name and I see mostly sports stuff.......and some issues.
"If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"
My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress
Was it coins?
Searched the name and I see mostly sports stuff.......and some issues.
If you do a forum search on "gregwash" you can see that he apparently had a BST post offering quarters & halves for sale. But yes, of his 24 forum posts, many were in the sports cards area.
I would only do deals on the BST with folks you have physically met or who are known dealers.
appreciate you protecting the rest of us by naming the thief..... have had many safe transactions here..... be a shame to lose that trust factor
Name: Greg Washington
Location: Canton, Ohio
User name: gregwash
Email: thegregsterscards@outlook.com
Thanks, I hope this will help others !!!
I almost did a deal with him but there were more red flags than a May Day parade. He said he was traveling and that I should send a check to his sister and then it went down hill from there.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Was it the star of this thread?
https://forums.collectors.com/...9446&enterthread=y">https://forums.collectors.com/...9446&enterthread=y
Thread deleted.
Very Sad! I see a new member with 2 posts trying to sell an 09 S VDB now. Buyer Beware!
I saw this BST post also....he/she also states " from my father's large collection"...another red flag as far as I am concerned. Just sayin'
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There are posters on these boards who have multiple ids and use them to fool people here. They use their multiple ids to bump up their user rating and bump down the ratings of those they disagree with. They converse back and forth with themselves using their multiple ids and lure you into a false sense of security. They know the game and what to say and do.
Sort of like you do in the CLCT Yahoo Finance forum? Having conversations with yourself, etc.
I also recently got scammed (see other thread KP Coins). It is a shame that this is two threads with week with at least 5 people known total (not including the sports card posts, I have never been in that section). Since it appears your seller is a dealer of some sort if I were you I would post on every site he advertises or any listing, maybe even a Facebook page if he has one as that would do the most damage to his business. Thanks for revealing him and hopefully that can save a few people from being scammed.
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Absolutely, without a doubt, the weirdest BST transaction I have even had and the only one where the agreed deal never was fulfilled.
Edit to add: When I first saw your post, I had a sneaky suspicion who the perpetrator was.
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There are posters on these boards who have multiple ids and use them to fool people here. They use their multiple ids to bump up their user rating and bump down the ratings of those they disagree with. They converse back and forth with themselves using their multiple ids and lure you into a false sense of security. They know the game and what to say and do.
Sort of like you do in the CLCT Yahoo Finance forum? Having conversations with yourself, etc.
Having a conversion with myself using ONE id is completely different then using multiple ids to fool people. My posts get liked, I get private emails and I respond. think of it as a financial blog. That is totally different then what folks are doing here.
Funny how you are quick to defend the scammer.
There may come a time when new or relatively unknown members will have to start sending what they're selling before a payment is made.
I thought it's always been that way around here. I'd never send any payment to a new member without merchandise in hand first. I've been here for 14 years and can supply numerous hobby dealer "approval shipment" references going back 40+ yrs. It would be a cold day before I send them payment first. Ironically, in 1974 Heritage (then Steve Ivy Rare Coin) didn't know me from Adam. They had my want list though. Out of the blue they shipped me a $15,000 package of half a dozen rare seated coins in choice/gem condition. I was looking to spend a few hundred bucks on circs....lol.
If I recall correctly, you were also burned by Dicky Betz from Washington(?), sometime last year.
I remember that alias but he hasn't been around these forums for awhile (at least, posting), I don't believe.
I also don't recall a problem being posted with him......would be interesting to hear as it is always good to know when there are existing problems, in case someone pops back up.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Having a conversion with myself using ONE id is completely different then using multiple ids to fool people. My posts get liked, I get private emails and I respond. think of it as a financial blog. That is totally different then what folks are doing here.
It all sounds like total lunacy to me.
There are posters on these boards who have multiple ids and use them to fool people here. They use their multiple ids to bump up their user rating and bump down the ratings of those they disagree with. They converse back and forth with themselves using their multiple ids and lure you into a false sense of security. They know the game and what to say and do.
I would only do deals on the BST with folks you have physically met or who are known dealers.
You mean the user ratings that no one ever pays attention to around here?
I also disagree with your very last sentence. There are a number of well established members that I would buy from in a heart beat that are not dealers and that I have never met in person. Examples include but are not limited to Keigwin, RYK, aireplanenut, etc. The vast majority of posters here are honorable.
There are posters on these boards who have multiple ids and use them to fool people here. They use their multiple ids to bump up their user rating and bump down the ratings of those they disagree with. They converse back and forth with themselves using their multiple ids and lure you into a false sense of security. They know the game and what to say and do.
Sort of like you do in the CLCT Yahoo Finance forum? Having conversations with yourself, etc.
Having a conversion with myself using ONE id is completely different then using multiple ids to fool people. My posts get liked, I get private emails and I respond. think of it as a financial blog. That is totally different then what folks are doing here.
Sort of like the 13 votes with a user rating of 1 that you have on this forum?
There are posters on these boards who have multiple ids and use them to fool people here. They use their multiple ids to bump up their user rating and bump down the ratings of those they disagree with. They converse back and forth with themselves using their multiple ids and lure you into a false sense of security. They know the game and what to say and do.
Sort of like you do in the CLCT Yahoo Finance forum? Having conversations with yourself, etc.
Having a conversion with myself using ONE id is completely different then using multiple ids to fool people. My posts get liked, I get private emails and I respond. think of it as a financial blog. That is totally different then what folks are doing here.
Sort of like the 13 votes with a user rating of 1 that you have on this forum?
all done by the guy with multiple ids. I suspect you might be an alias as well.
Gee you coin guys are so welcoming to new ideas and new people. No wonder coin shows look like an episode of the Walking Dead
Having a conversion with myself using ONE id is completely different then using multiple ids to fool people. My posts get liked, I get private emails and I respond. think of it as a financial blog. That is totally different then what folks are doing here.
It all sounds like total lunacy to me.
A blog is lunacy? doug winter has a blog Is he a lunatic? Laura Sperber has a blog. etc.
I was almost scammed by this guy and I know of several others who sent him money but were able to recover it after some threatening emails. I held off on outing the guy until several of the other forum members got their money back.
I guess I should have sent a warning sooner. Thanks for letting others know!
Thanks for posting this.
There are posters on these boards who have multiple ids and use them to fool people here. They use their multiple ids to bump up their user rating and bump down the ratings of those they disagree with. They converse back and forth with themselves using their multiple ids and lure you into a false sense of security. They know the game and what to say and do.
Sort of like you do in the CLCT Yahoo Finance forum? Having conversations with yourself, etc.
Having a conversion with myself using ONE id is completely different then using multiple ids to fool people. My posts get liked, I get private emails and I respond. think of it as a financial blog. That is totally different then what folks are doing here.
Sort of like the 13 votes with a user rating of 1 that you have on this forum?
all done by the guy with multiple ids. I suspect you might be an alias as well.
Gee you coin guys are so welcoming to new ideas and new people. No wonder coin shows look like an episode of the Walking Dead
Just to be clear...this is at least your 2nd ID, right?
You aren't what anyone would classify as new.
As to "new ideas", you like to present them as your way is the only way it is right.
I don't know what you and the others have going on with each other, but the more I see you post in the USCF, where it is has been nothing about coins from you, the less I see any substance in your posts.
And, "coin guys" are actually pretty welcoming to new folks on the forum....especially when they don't pretend to know it all and then claim to be new when they aren't. Lot of COIN knowledge, and help, always given in the threads.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Yes, it was coins !!! ??
Wow TimBuck3 .. didn't you get bummed on another BST deal 2 yrs ago?.....
Sad
I was almost scammed by this guy and I know of several others who sent him money but were able to recover it after some threatening emails. I held off on outing the guy until several of the other forum members got their money back.
I guess I should have sent a warning sooner. Thanks for letting others know!
I was also just about scammed as well by him too in July. It took me a lot of emails and harsh wording but I did get my money back. He has about every excuse in the book but if you push him hard enough you can potentially get it back.
I can attest Timbuk3 is a first class BST user...not that he needs kudos...but kudos given nonetheless.
I had a transaction with Greg, too. Mine was a hybrid PM and card swap - he supposedly had a couple of silver bars I wanted and I had some graded cards he wanted. It was a drawn out negotiation, exchanging pics both ways, and we finally agreed on a deal: I would send him a check, he would then send the bars, and upon receipt of the bars, I would send his cards. The bars never arrived. Twice he said he sent them and provided tracking numbers. In both cases, the tracking number never showed any progress on the USPS tracking site (never even "Accepted"). Eventually, he offered to send me a refund via Paypal, which I did eventually receive. Total time from start to finish was two months, but I did get my $$ back.
Absolutely, without a doubt, the weirdest BST transaction I have even had and the only one where the agreed deal never was fulfilled.
Edit to add: When I first saw your post, I had a sneaky suspicion who the perpetrator was.
That was the same scenario on the sportscard side, too. Claimed he shipped a package with a high dollar card but the so-called tracking number was bogus and the package never shipped despite his claims of doing so. In that case, the buyer filed a chargeback and got a refund from paypal after he stopped responding to emails.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Gee you coin guys are so welcoming to new ideas and new people. No wonder coin shows look like an episode of the Walking Dead
Actually, most coin shows are still very busy places with lots of foot traffic. And comparing them to the WD is essentially a compliment. Zombies tend to congregate together in large flocks. So if you have 1...you probably have a 100.
Guessing both members are not in the Circle Of Trust?
Hope these 2 knuckleheads do not reflect poorly on the BST, as I've done hundreds of transactions both buying & selling there without even as much as a hiccup.
There are posters on these boards who have multiple ids and use them to fool people here. They use their multiple ids to bump up their user rating and bump down the ratings of those they disagree with. They converse back and forth with themselves using their multiple ids and lure you into a false sense of security. They know the game and what to say and do.
Sort of like you do in the CLCT Yahoo Finance forum? Having conversations with yourself, etc.
Having a conversion with myself using ONE id is completely different then using multiple ids to fool people. My posts get liked, I get private emails and I respond. think of it as a financial blog. That is totally different then what folks are doing here.
Sort of like the 13 votes with a user rating of 1 that you have on this forum?
all done by the guy with multiple ids. I suspect you might be an alias as well.
Gee you coin guys are so welcoming to new ideas and new people. No wonder coin shows look like an episode of the Walking Dead
For all we know, you are all three of these people talking to yourself...You don't wear tin foil on your head do you? LOL...
CA5MAN, he is even posting on other forums that you and I are the same person. I just looked at the fools rating and he got bumped up to a 2 with 18 votes. He must have found a way to give himself a 10, with 17 "1" ratings. I have never seen such a low rating around here. For that matter, I have never seen such a lowbrow around here.
There are posters on these boards who have multiple ids and use them to fool people here. They use their multiple ids to bump up their user rating and bump down the ratings of those they disagree with. They converse back and forth with themselves using their multiple ids and lure you into a false sense of security. They know the game and what to say and do.
Sort of like you do in the CLCT Yahoo Finance forum? Having conversations with yourself, etc.
Having a conversion with myself using ONE id is completely different then using multiple ids to fool people. My posts get liked, I get private emails and I respond. think of it as a financial blog. That is totally different then what folks are doing here.
Sort of like the 13 votes with a user rating of 1 that you have on this forum?
all done by the guy with multiple ids. I suspect you might be an alias as well.
Gee you coin guys are so welcoming to new ideas and new people. No wonder coin shows look like an episode of the Walking Dead
For all we know, you are all three of these people talking to yourself...You don't wear tin foil on your head do you? LOL...
CA5MAN, he is even posting on other forums that you and I are the same person. I just looked at the fools rating and he got bumped up to a 2 with 18 votes. He must have found a way to give himself a 10, with 17 "1" ratings. I have never seen such a low rating around here. For that matter, I have never seen such a lowbrow around here.
Let it be known that you are the guy with many ids. Beware. Now go create a few more and manipulate some polls and user ratings which you seem to be fixated on. This is the third time you have commented on user ratings. Lonely much? Still waiting for a subpoena from your lawyer. LOL
grand and now people wonder why they get scammed cause they make easy targets of themselves by not asking questions or researching
look I have never been scammed as I ask questions and research what i'm buying
and it doesn't take much time to do so why have people not done this is the issue?
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people never ask question, research and think when buying things they just hope it's a good deal and they cam make money off it
grand and now people wonder why they get scammed cause they make easy targets of themselves by not asking questions or researching
look I have never been scammed as I ask questions and research what i'm buying
and it doesn't take much time to do so why have people not done this is the issue?
Given the coins you post on these boards
how much research do you do and what kind
of questions do you ask ?
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