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  • ssdawg77ssdawg77 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One hobby box and 6 retail blasters produced this today. The Bryant is a flip stock version /5 and the only thing to come out of the hobby box. The rest came from the 6 blasters, the Giolito is the traded variation. Needless to say, I have my wife out looking for more retail while I open the last of my sixth and final case of hobby.

  • jmmiller777jmmiller777 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭



    Some more goodies, A very special thanks to my 9 year old grandson who had to have his hand in the picture and insisted we post one upside down (to be cool).

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    To be honest, no direction, but...
    1966-69 Topps EX+
    1975 minis NrMt Kelloggs PSA 9
    All Topps Heritage-Master Sets
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  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just ordered 3 boxes and first time for Heritage for me. Going to crack them open with my son later this week. As you know I do vintage so what are the key pulls I should look out for - autos obviously but what else? Thank you in advance for the help,

  • parkerjparkerj Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭

    great dual john! sorry to out do you again, but just my 10 year old just pulled both of these from a case...

  • jmmiller777jmmiller777 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭

    Oh man! well played! That Ryan/Bench is my favorite. What a beauty, both of them.

    CURRENT PROJECTS IN WORK:
    To be honest, no direction, but...
    1966-69 Topps EX+
    1975 minis NrMt Kelloggs PSA 9
    All Topps Heritage-Master Sets
    image
  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love the Bench/Ryan card! What are those going for these days?

  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭
    edited March 4, 2017 9:07PM

    Four sold so far, Keith - three were at $1000 BIN/BO - not sure what the accepted offers were on any of them. The fourth went for $800 BIN.

    edit: found a site that helped me figure out what the best offers were on the first three:
    * the 23/25 and 20/25 sold for $850
    * the 3/25 sold for $900

    looks like we can still check accepted best offers by adding the item # after this: http://item.ebay.co.uk/xxxxxxxxxxxx (substitute item number for the x's)

  • magellanmagellan Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭

    Great pulls John ! I ordered 3 hobby boxes from Atlanta Sportscards 2 nights ago for $228 & free shipping. You might try them.

    More great pulls Jim, you 2 are smoking .

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    Topps Heritage

    1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
    All Yaz Items 7+
    Various Red Sox
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  • jmmiller777jmmiller777 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭

    @KendallCat said:
    Just ordered 3 boxes and first time for Heritage for me. Going to crack them open with my son later this week. As you know I do vintage so what are the key pulls I should look out for - autos obviously but what else? Thank you in advance for the help,

    I would recommend going to Beckett.com to take a look. There is so much going on, it's really too much to try and remember. There are traded cards, rookie cards, color swaps, action variations, missing trophy graphics on the front of some, yellow backs, etc. Some players have 3-4 different card variations. Beckett has listed them fairly accurate, although the list is not concise. They have an excel type tab list on their front page to show each type, yet don't mention the gray backs. The past 3-4 years have had fake gum stains on the back of them; no mention or listing on ebay of those this year. There will be 3-D's, minis, and other obvious stuff. Cardboard Connection is another site, and there are several others. Good luck..

    CURRENT PROJECTS IN WORK:
    To be honest, no direction, but...
    1966-69 Topps EX+
    1975 minis NrMt Kelloggs PSA 9
    All Topps Heritage-Master Sets
    image
  • jay0791jay0791 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭✭

    Love these cards

    If you guys pull any buster posey I would be interested in buying

    Collecting PSA... FB,BK,HK,and BB HOF RC sets
    1948-76 Topps FB Sets
    FB & BB HOF Player sets
    1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmmiller777 said:

    @KendallCat said:
    Just ordered 3 boxes and first time for Heritage for me. Going to crack them open with my son later this week. As you know I do vintage so what are the key pulls I should look out for - autos obviously but what else? Thank you in advance for the help,

    I would recommend going to Beckett.com to take a look. There is so much going on, it's really too much to try and remember. There are traded cards, rookie cards, color swaps, action variations, missing trophy graphics on the front of some, yellow backs, etc. Some players have 3-4 different card variations. Beckett has listed them fairly accurate, although the list is not concise. They have an excel type tab list on their front page to show each type, yet don't mention the gray backs. The past 3-4 years have had fake gum stains on the back of them; no mention or listing on ebay of those this year. There will be 3-D's, minis, and other obvious stuff. Cardboard Connection is another site, and there are several others. Good luck..

    Thank you very much for the info and I will check there and get up to speed.

    KC

  • 1980scollector1980scollector Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭

    Alright fellas I am going to build a set with the in action, black circle variations and the 3D cards. Here are my needs and extras.

    All extras-

    High # 495, 493, 490, 488, 486, 482, 479, 478, 461, 460, 455, 440, 439, 417

    Would love love love to trade or PayPal for a very nice autograph or relic auto from this year.

    clubhouse collection

    David Ortiz
    Albert Pujols
    CORREA /99
    Ryan Braun
    Noah Syndegaard
    Starling Marte
    Freddie Freeman
    Giancarlo Stanton

    Blue border /50
    Ryan Braun
    Jose Abreu

    Game cards
    11,14,16, 27

    Then and Now 4, 11

    NAP
    6,7,14

    NFB 4,6

    Purple refractor

    400, 422, 426, 465, 474, 481

    ** Working on the following sets-2013 Spectra Football Hall of Fame 50th Anniversary Autograph set, 2015 Spectra Football Illustrious Legends Autograph set, 2014-15 Hall of Fame Heroes autograph set. **
  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I crack some boxes before I come down the 15th I can bring some with me. As far as invidual player cards who are not Vols who sells well for you in baseball, football, basketball...

    KC

  • 1980scollector1980scollector Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭

    @KendallCat said:
    If I crack some boxes before I come down the 15th I can bring some with me. As far as invidual player cards who are not Vols who sells well for you in baseball, football, basketball...

    KC

    Betts, Dansby Swanson, Bryant, Binnentendi(sp)

    Basketball- Westbrook and Durant

    Football- Dak still some and HOF autos sell well.

    ** Working on the following sets-2013 Spectra Football Hall of Fame 50th Anniversary Autograph set, 2015 Spectra Football Illustrious Legends Autograph set, 2014-15 Hall of Fame Heroes autograph set. **
  • Bearkat21Bearkat21 Posts: 273 ✭✭✭✭

    Always liked the 68s and after reading this thread, I ran up to target and picked up two boxes. Hit one chrome (AJ Reed), one chrome ref (Daniel Murphy), a Yankees Team yellow back, three game cards (Stanton, Thompson, Healy) and 5 SPs (Posey, Arrieta, Bird, Pence, Reed).

    Really like this set. I'll probably have to grab a few more of these.

  • ZTargZTarg Posts: 497 ✭✭✭

    Do the errors and traded cards have different codes on the back than the base cards?

  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭

    Bought some hanger packs this morning, so I have a little trade material available. Looking for Dodgers-related stuff, of course.

    Needed:
    Base: 45 78 79 83 131 138 185 187 255 264 323 374 398 440 477
    Color Swap: 400 (Kershaw) 415 (Maeda) 440 (Seager)
    Error: 440 (Seager - no Topps Rookie trophy, back has April 7 birthdate)
    Throwback: 415 (Maeda - Brooklyn uniform)
    New Age Performers: Seager, Maeda
    Game Cards: Kershaw, Seager
    Then and Now: Kershaw/Marichal

    Available:
    SPs: 407 419 430 445 450
    Bazooka insert: Carlos Correa
    Mini: #433 Trevor Story 69/100
    Game card (Target exclusive): #18 Nolan Arenado x2
    NAP: Duffy
    Baseball Flashbacks: Reggie Jackson
    Then & Now: 8 and 12
    Chrome: #444 Gary Sanchez 154/999
    Refractor: #467 Polanco 177/568

  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭
    edited March 5, 2017 6:05PM

    @ZTarg said:
    Do the errors and traded cards have different codes on the back than the base cards?

    Base - #1867
    Base SP (#401-500) - #1869
    Error - #1870
    Action/Rookie - #1871
    Throwback - #1872
    Traded - #1873
    Color Swap - #1874

    Yellow backs (not stamped, but print run is reportedly /25), 'grey' backs (reportedly /10) and flip stock (reportedly /5) all have the same code as regular base, 1867.

    Found this pic on Blowout that will help people recognize the above back variations.

  • ZTargZTarg Posts: 497 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the help G. I was going in the wrong direction and you spun me right round.

  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭

    @ZTarg said:
    Thanks for the help G. I was going in the wrong direction and you spun me right round.

    Always glad to help a friend, Lee.

  • 1980scollector1980scollector Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭

    @ZTarg said:
    Do the errors and traded cards have different codes on the back than the base cards?

    Yes anything that doesn't end in 67 is some sort of SP.

    ** Working on the following sets-2013 Spectra Football Hall of Fame 50th Anniversary Autograph set, 2015 Spectra Football Illustrious Legends Autograph set, 2014-15 Hall of Fame Heroes autograph set. **
  • parkerjparkerj Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭

    fyi, the color differences all have same code on back. great picture Geordie, worth a 1000 words.

    here is my want list....looking for some trades with the oldtimers and newcomers alike:

    David Ortiz #412: gold (#/5), Blue ref (#/68), chrome #/999 (x3), Mini #/100, relic #/99, dime, 3D

    Colors: 400 kershaw, 402 McCutcheon, 405 Sale, 410 Hosmer, 411 Rizzo, 441 Bogaerts

    Actions: 440 Seager x3

    Autos: Carew, Brooks Robinson, Reggie Jackson, Phil Niekro, Bench, Ryan

    Purple: 444x2, 447, 448, 455, 459, 463x2, 468, 470, 474, 475x2, 476x2, 492

    Refractors #/568: 405 410 412 421 424 429 430 433 434 435 437 447 448 457 463 468 474 477 483 485 490

    Chrome #/999: 412 426 445 4689 482 500

    SPs: 413, 418x2, 459, 500

    Avaiable:

    red ink #/68: Lindor ($110), deGrom ($125), Bill Bryan ($28), Carson Fulmer ($75), lou brock ($145), jim bouton ($45)

    blue ink: pete cimino ($20), aaron judge ($125), Bobby Locke ($20), Lee Thomas ($20), David Dahl ($35), Miguel Sano ($25), Bill Bryan ($20), Al Worthington($20)

    Gold Ref #/5: Danny Salazar ($75), Jean Segura ($75)

    Error SSPs: Harper white ($80), Giolito Traded ($75)

    Minis ($12 each): felix, adrian gonzalez, todd frazier, Beltran, Strasburg, mauer, arenado, scherzer, m fulmer, segura, k seager, odor, abreu, doolittle, hanram, b crawford, bautista, bruce, beltre, bradley jr, cano, zobrist, chapman, perez

    3D: Stanton ($20), Bumgarner ($20), posey ($20), Trout ($40)

    Relics:: most for $3 each
    Relics #/99 ($7 ea):abreu, cruz, rizzo, springer, vMart, goldschmidt, altuve, Mig cabrera, mccutcheon, kershaw

    Dual Relic: Bench / Votto ($40)
    Coin: Verlander Nickel #/15 ($25)
    Stamp: Frank Robinson #/50 ($25)

    Blue Border #/50: TONS, but of note: 363 Trout AS, 171 Cubs, Yankees, Redsox, kershaw, 374 kershaw AS, 377 Harper AS

    Gray Back #/10 ($25 ea): 87 Castro, 275 phillies rookies, 457 D Murphy

    Flip Stock #/5 ($25 ea): 214 Aaron Judge Rookie ($150), 167 billy butler, 12 AL strikeouts, 45 kazmir, 18 nate jones, 205 reds team, 384 shipley rookie, 35 DeSclafani,

    Yellow Back #/25 ($15 ea): 30 flowers, 42 marlins rookies, 49 espinosa, 59 peraza, 83 dodgers rookies, 108 oh, 169 bettis, 316 morales, 417 Verlander, 446 bautista, 466 yelich, 482 almora, 484 m fulmer

    Color Swap: arietta, price (x2), cespedes, arenado
    Actions: Most available

  • parkerjparkerj Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭

    some more eye candy...from same case as the ryan/bench, and quad patch. fyi, its sold already.

  • tillertiller Posts: 149 ✭✭

    Just opened 3 retail blasters, got a Carson Fulmer blue auto, thats 2 autos this year. 1 box had a chrome ref. in every pack. But not numbered?? Im down to needing just 4 more basic cards to finish basic set.

  • magellanmagellan Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭

    Dave those no numbered chromes are the purple refractors like the green or purple ones of other years.

    Topps Heritage

    Now collecting:
    Topps Heritage

    1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
    All Yaz Items 7+
    Various Red Sox
    Did I leave anything out?
  • tillertiller Posts: 149 ✭✭

    Yeah, Ive got those before but these look just like the reg. ones but not numbered. Hey thanks.

  • vintagefunvintagefun Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭

    3 hobby boxes en route to start. I think I'm shooting for 1-500 and 3Ds, NAP, BBFB...so doubles, chrome/refract, T&N, NFB, and auto/relics will be available.

    I've done the last 3-4 sets with help from the board. This is kinda the highlight of the year for revisiting youth from a trading and set building perspective...plus the vintage design.

    Nice to see some of the best pulls coming from the group.

    Haves and Wants coming soon.

    Fingers crossed for a hot box.

    52-90 All Sports, Mostly Topps, Mostly HOF, and some assorted wax.
  • heritageheritage Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    Some amazing hits guys.

  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 6, 2017 9:27PM

    @1980scollector said:

    @KendallCat said:
    If I crack some boxes before I come down the 15th I can bring some with me. As far as invidual player cards who are not Vols who sells well for you in baseball, football, basketball...

    KC

    Betts, Dansby Swanson, Bryant, Binnentendi(sp)

    Basketball- Westbrook and Durant

    Football- Dak still some and HOF autos sell well.

    @1980scollector said:

    @KendallCat said:
    If I crack some boxes before I come down the 15th I can bring some with me. As far as invidual player cards who are not Vols who sells well for you in baseball, football, basketball...

    KC

    Assume you want the stuff you can move like $1-$5 Bryant and Dansby cards. Did not figure you wanted me to bring any of these.. Have a Betts auto rookie as well in BGS 9.5.


    .

    Any Reds cards from the 60's or 70's. Have some pack pulled stuff from 68-70 and 75-76.

    KC

  • jmmiller777jmmiller777 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭

    So, can anyone tell me what this is? I got 1 or 2 in each of the seven Blaster packs.

    CURRENT PROJECTS IN WORK:
    To be honest, no direction, but...
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    1975 minis NrMt Kelloggs PSA 9
    All Topps Heritage-Master Sets
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  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a retail exclusive variation, similar to the WalMart/Target in the past.

  • magellanmagellan Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭

    @LarkinCollector said:
    Looks like a retail exclusive variation, similar to the WalMart/Target in the past.

    That would be the "bloodstain" variation 1/4 packs

    Topps Heritage

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    Topps Heritage

    1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
    All Yaz Items 7+
    Various Red Sox
    Did I leave anything out?
  • jmmiller777jmmiller777 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭

    Wow, that's why I like this site. I have never seen these "bloodstains" before. Always something to learn, thanks for the info.

    CURRENT PROJECTS IN WORK:
    To be honest, no direction, but...
    1966-69 Topps EX+
    1975 minis NrMt Kelloggs PSA 9
    All Topps Heritage-Master Sets
    image
  • heritageheritage Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    Now that's different blood stains lol,

  • kmnortonkmnorton Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭

    Took me a bit to purchase (and purchase and purchase) to get ready to trade. Here we go:

    Extras:

    SPs
    418, 429 (2), 430, 432, 444, 448, 459,(2), 461, 462, 464, 467, 472, 478, 480, 486, 487, 293 (2), 493, 498 (2)
    NAP
    2, 6, 8, 13, 14
    Game Cards Vets
    1 (2), 26
    Game Cards RC
    3, 10
    Gray
    13 Cervelli
    Mini
    445 Encarnacion
    Color Swap
    420 Machado

    Needs:

    SPs,
    402, 403, 407, 409, 412, 413, 414, 415, 416, 419, 420, 421, 423, 424, 427, 428, 431, 433, 434, 439, 440, 442, 446, 447, 450, 454, 455, 456, 457, 460, 462, 466, 468, 469, 472, 473, 474, 479, 482, 482, 483, 484, 488, 489, 491, 495, 496, 497
    NAP
    1, 6, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 21
    Game Cards Vets
    2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 13, 16, 19, 24, 27, 30

    Let the games begin and may the odds be in your favor

    Choo Choo

    IWTDMBII
  • magellanmagellan Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭

    @jmmiller777 said:
    Wow, that's why I like this site. I have never seen these "bloodstains" before. Always something to learn, thanks for the info.
    :)

    Topps Heritage

    Now collecting:
    Topps Heritage

    1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
    All Yaz Items 7+
    Various Red Sox
    Did I leave anything out?
  • magellanmagellan Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭

    I've seen nothing on Blowout forum about that type of color John. Possible print defect ? Although Heritage has been pretty good about only having intentional print differences.

    Topps Heritage

    Now collecting:
    Topps Heritage

    1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
    All Yaz Items 7+
    Various Red Sox
    Did I leave anything out?
  • heritageheritage Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    I'm looking for 3D cards if anyone has any.

  • 1980scollector1980scollector Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭

    @KendallCat said:

    @1980scollector said:

    @KendallCat said:
    If I crack some boxes before I come down the 15th I can bring some with me. As far as invidual player cards who are not Vols who sells well for you in baseball, football, basketball...

    KC

    Betts, Dansby Swanson, Bryant, Binnentendi(sp)

    Basketball- Westbrook and Durant

    Football- Dak still some and HOF autos sell well.

    @1980scollector said:

    @KendallCat said:
    If I crack some boxes before I come down the 15th I can bring some with me. As far as invidual player cards who are not Vols who sells well for you in baseball, football, basketball...

    KC

    Assume you want the stuff you can move like $1-$5 Bryant and Dansby cards. Did not figure you wanted me to bring any of these.. Have a Betts auto rookie as well in BGS 9.5.


    .

    Any Reds cards from the 60's or 70's. Have some pack pulled stuff from 68-70 and 75-76.

    KC

    Yes, I move high end pretty well. The $1/$2 stuff will work too. Sent DM.

    ** Working on the following sets-2013 Spectra Football Hall of Fame 50th Anniversary Autograph set, 2015 Spectra Football Illustrious Legends Autograph set, 2014-15 Hall of Fame Heroes autograph set. **
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭

    So what do you guys think about these? I opened eight of those hanger packs at Target and noticed that the player's info box on top was yellow instead of white on six of the cards. Thought it was odd, but then kinda forgot about them.

    A poster on Blowout finally mentioned that he had gotten approx 10-12 of them while ripping 5 cases, so I chimed in with mine.

    Anyone else see anything like this?

    "white box" on the left, "yellow box" on the right - they're pretty obvious in hand.

  • parkerjparkerj Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭

    just a slight shade to the underlying card stock...every heritage year has these slight differences and i contend they are natural variations, not planned.

  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭

    I get what you're saying, Jim, but this yellow tint is only in the player info box.

  • ugaskidawgugaskidawg Posts: 882 ✭✭✭
    edited March 10, 2017 8:59AM

    I went ahead and isolated the bottom two cards from each column. All the other yellow was making it harder to see...In this photo, you can see much more of the difference. The trivia question does appear to be more white than the name/info boxes...

  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭

    correct - the trivia box is the same white that is on all of the regular base cards.

  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭

    You guys that opened a lot of product: check your dupes of the following numbers. If they're all the same (all have the yellowed player info box), then that would put the "this is a new variation" conspiracy theory to bed in a hurry!

    105
    107
    143
    148
    290
    389

  • vintagefunvintagefun Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭

    Box 1 was a blast. My first hobby hot box. Only problem is next 2 are kinda set up for disappointment. Oh well. First impression...This years are much better than last. Set should be fun.

    Correa /568
    CC Harper Bat Relic
    Blue #2 NL HR Leaders Arenado/Carter/Bryant

    T&N Yaz/LeMahieu
    BFB Yaz
    NFB Kennedy
    NAP Hendricks and Maeda
    Game Trout Ortiz Dozier
    4 Rediscover Topps

    10 SP (2 of them Action Variations)
    Actions: Lindor and Correa
    Regular SP: Bradley Jr., Bird, Harper, Reed, Ozuna, Pence, Tanaka, Bumgarner

    Purple Chrome:
    Tulowitzki, Lester, A. Russell, Reed, Betts, Springer, Ozuna, Lamb, Donaldson, Polanco, Marte, Swanson, Sanchez, Gordon, Mazara, Tanaka, Bryant, Arenado, Kemp, Machado, Votto, Blackmon, Arrieta, Desmond

    Plus RCs Judge and Benintendi

    52-90 All Sports, Mostly Topps, Mostly HOF, and some assorted wax.
  • vintagefunvintagefun Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭

    Quick question: I'll be at Target tomorrow. Anyone know which is popping more SPs, Blaster or Hanger?

    52-90 All Sports, Mostly Topps, Mostly HOF, and some assorted wax.
  • ugaskidawgugaskidawg Posts: 882 ✭✭✭

    Jim, I have bought five blasters from target and they have all had two SP cards in them. Each of the blaster boxes also had a RC game card. I was also averaging one chrome/refractor card in each box as well. I didn't hit any relics or auto cards.

    I didn't buy any of the hangers, so I don't know there.

  • jmmiller777jmmiller777 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭

    Ya, about the same here, 2 SP's per blaster at both Wal-Mart and Target. The two hangers produced 1 SP each. All the gravity boxes have been fully searched, packs laying all over the place. Probably the same A$$hole hitting all the stores up in one day. Pathetic.

    CURRENT PROJECTS IN WORK:
    To be honest, no direction, but...
    1966-69 Topps EX+
    1975 minis NrMt Kelloggs PSA 9
    All Topps Heritage-Master Sets
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