Gade this buffalo nickel which is currently on eBay

BUFFNIXX

for all you buffalo fans, take a whack at grading this 1924s buffalo
which is in a current ebay auction.

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3Legs

I'm going with 35.

ricko

30-35....at least from the pictures.... Cheers, RickO

LanceNewmanOCC

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i grade it

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OnWithTheHunt

A date/mm notorious for mushy strikes. The full split tail and unmarked surfaces seem to indicate a grade in the 58-62 range.

oih82w8

??? -or- Zhongguó jia = chinese fake



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clarkbar04

Looks imported.

Manorcourtman

53

BUFFNIXX

I think clarkbar04 finally hit the nail on the head!!

Looks like a Chinese import.

you can tell by the missing designer initial and the mushy even strike.

the mint master who made this did a really good job!!

that being said it is still fooling a lot of experienced collectors

jtlee321

It feels off to me.. I'd say Clarkbar04 and Buffnixx are correct. I wouldn't touch it anyway's, it's a GSC offering.

I know some nice stuff has been cherrypicked from them, but a majority of what they offer you wouldn't want in your collection.

zas107

100% counterfeit. Would bet my life on it.

roadrunner

I'd grade it a mushy strike 62/63. The original question didn't ask about authenticity. The mirror-like pools or recesses on the coin are most unusual on a Buff.

DIMEMAN

Doesn't look right to me.

Elcontador

It's a low grade unc. re detail. But the grainy, porous surfaces to me implies that the coin either has been played with or is not genuine. The 24 S is known for weak strikes. Grainy, porous surfaces should not been seen on original surfaces of a Buffalo Nickel.

CommemKing

Looks soft and unusually mushy. Fake?

MFH

Has the appearance of an AU 53 - but - I believe it's a fake.

dcarr

Made in China and artificially circulated after being struck.

BustHalfBrian

Looks AU. And I think it's real, just struck from a worn die.

clarkbar04

Also, the 3 ridges on the chiefs robe/cape are missing.

TommyType

I'm no buffalo expert. But it seems to me highly unlikely you would have a poorly, (or mushy), struck coin with a full tail and horn visible?!?! Those attributes are often characteristics of a GOOD strike. Either the dies were "mushy" to begin with, or it has been artificially "circulated".



Looks like it's been through a rock polisher, (all surfaces equally worn), rather than actual circulation, (which should be more evident on the high spots).

grip

Buffed and polished as a lot of his coins look to be

LanceNewmanOCC

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good thing you posted nixx.



it appears we need more c/f detection threads.



we shouldnt have regulars missing these things.



gotta say this speaks poorly of gsc to miss a coin this bad.



like that amazon coin, these are or should be obvious.



shows what we are up against and NEVER can we let our guards down.

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mannie gray

I agree with several others who have said the coin is counterfeit.

BUFFNIXX

And there is no 1924s missing designer initial variety in the Cherrypickers Guide
by Fivaz and Stanton or Ron Pope’s Abraded Die varieties for buffalo nickels.

koynekwest

Absolutely counterfeit. Aside from the missing initial the coin just doesn't look "right." It's lacking much of the finer detail but it's not from strike or die wear. It appears to me the detail just wasn't there in the first place. The color is wrong as is the luster, or, more precisely, the lack of luster. Many red flags on this one. Let their shills have it.

LanceNewmanOCC

Originally posted by: koynekwest

Absolutely counterfeit. Aside from the missing initial the coin just doesn't look "right." It's lacking much of the finer detail but it's not from strike or die wear. It appears to me the detail just wasn't there in the first place. The color is wrong as is the luster, or, more precisely, the lack of luster. Many red flags on this one. Let their shills have it.

thought-for-thought, u read my mind.



just wasnt up to typing it.

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mannie gray

The first overall impression I had of the coin was "fake" because of the overall funky look it has.

The digits on the date jumped out at me as not right, besides the overall questionable appearance of the "coin."

crazyhounddog

Counterfeit all the way!??

FredWeinberg

It's one million per cent counterfeit.

TheDukeK

Fake

BUFFNIXX

As of Monday 3:40pm the bidding on this piece is up to $ 222.50
7 different bidders with 14 bids.
Up up and away it goes!!

DaveWcoins

Fake. No question.

TPRC

Well, it's nice to know that my instincts are correct!

gyocomgd

I wouldn't touch that coin raw with a 10-foot pole.

AmazonX

I'm with the fake crowd on this one.

OldIndianNutKase

The coin is an OBVIOUS FAKE, No "F" designer sinnature. And for all of you that think it genuine, just buy it and submit it to PCGS. If we were to institute a lottery of the those thinking gradable vs. non gradable this post would be more fun. For those of us that believe the coin is counterfeit the return might be $1.10 per dollar. For those of us that think genuine the return might be $10 per dollar.

I will volunteer to be the coin bookie. I will buy the coin and submit it. The winners will receive a prorated share of the revenue less my cost of the coin divided by the participants (winners).

Let's play.

OINK

BIGAL2749

Scrolling down half way on the obverse, the surfaces just aren't right.

TigersFan2

Everyone says it's a fake, but has anyone reported it to get the auction removed? GSC probably doesn't care as long as they sell it.

TigersFan2

Here's the auction if anyone wants to report.

GSC's Fake 1924-S Nickel

BUFFNIXX

There are so many of these Chinese fakes let loose into this country through that are now for sale at flea markets and coin shops all across the country.
Imagine a rookies collector running into a coin like this and getting a “bargain” for say 200 dollars. Bet this happens quite a lot. Why you can
even get your stock of these “coins” on amazon!

BUFFNIXX

Go to amazon and do a search on BUFFALO NICKEL COPY
There you will see that a Chinese mint master named Yuan Yu Yang
is selling copies of most every date and mintmark of buffalo nickel.
None have the word copy on them. To the novice this looks
like a real unc buff. To the greedy a bargain.
They are most all as deceptive as this 1924s nickel which is in
a current GSC eBay auction. (current bid $222.) I can see people buying these from
Amazon and then posting them to eBay as soon as they arrive
from “across the pond”.
You can even get a 1939 type one raised ground!!

BUFFNIXX

What follows is the buffalo nickel copy for the 1924s that is currently for sale on amazon for six bucks and change.
Made by a Mister Yuan Yu Fang
looks similar to the one in the GSC auction.

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BUFFNIXX

There are differences as in the case of the one on Amazon the lines above the date to the left do show.
Probably a diffrent pair of dies but same concept.

Notice that the date on both has the same mushy appearance which would be unusual for
a legit high grade coin of this type.

BUFFNIXX

Here is an Amazon 1925d but the date style would probably tip most people off.

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BUFFNIXX

now at $$225.00 with 19 bids.
anyone want in on the action before its gone?
1 day 13 hours left

((it is auction number 291833206741 ))


Or, you can go to AMAZON

and search on ‘1924-s copy buffalo nickel’

and get the same thing for less than $7 plus shipping.

lkenefic

Looks off to me too... GSC offering to boot...

asheland

Originally posted by: DIMEMAN
Doesn't look right to me.

+1

mannie gray

GSC screeners should have caught that one.

BUFFNIXX

up to $290.00
21 bidders
just over 12 hours to go

BUFFNIXX

THE FINAL ON THIS PUPPY WAS $1,127!!
36 DIFFERENT BIDDERS.
WHAT A SURPRISE THE BIDDER WILL HAVE IF HIS SENDS THIS TO A 3RD PARTY GRADING SERVICE.
OR HE JUST MIGHT SLIP IT INTO HIS DANSCO ALBUM AND NOT FIND OUT FOR A LONG TIME.
GOOD GRIEF!

koynekwest

How sad.