1970S Quarter mint over 1941 C 25

bamaeric81

1970S Rare Mint Error



Has anyone ever heard of this error? The article is from Fox News 13, it states that this error is when the mint used 1941 Canadian 25 Cents to Strike this proof. Sounds like complete rubbish to me but this is a main stream media outlet?

AUandAG

NGC says it's real. Bids up to $35,000 is BS as there are no bids, it's a BIN.



bob

seanq

There were some backdoor shenanigans at the SF Mint in the late 1960s, many impossible errors on proof and SMS coins were created and most eventually found their way to a safety deposit box, the contents of which were dispersed in the early 2000s. There is a 1970-S proof quarter known struck over a 1900 Barber Quarter, I have little doubt that the coin in the article was struck at the same time by the same people. The Secret Service reviewed the contents of the deposit box at the time of the original sale and deemed all of the contents legal to own, I'm sure this coin would fall under the same umbrella.



Sean Reynolds

TomB

This was absolutely made intentionally at the US Mint by workers who knew what they were doing. It is in no way an error coin.

seanq

Here is a link to a write-up on Mike Byers' site showing the 1970-S on 1900 Barber Quarter. He mentions the State of California safety deposit box auction I referred to above, and that there are two such coins known. I also found this thread on the forum discussing the Byers coin. Nowhere in either link was the proof on the 1941 Canadian quarter mentioned.





Sean Reynolds

Coinosaurus

That is a wicked cool coin even if "intentional."

PRECIOUSMENTAL

I read about this on CCF earlier today.

Certainly smacks of an 'inside job.'

kiyote

Total monkey business going on at the mint back then.

jwitten

Originally posted by: TomB
This was absolutely made intentionally at the US Mint by workers who knew what they were doing. It is in no way an error coin.

Since I doubt the US Mint ever wanted that coin to get out, I would say it is an error. Intentional, yes, but it is not supposed to be like that.

ricko

I would like to see an enlarged picture of the 'error'...cannot detect it from any I have seen so far. Cheers, RickO

CaptHenway

Originally posted by: seanq

There were some backdoor shenanigans at the SF Mint in the late 1960s, many impossible errors on proof and SMS coins were created and most eventually found their way to a safety deposit box, the contents of which were dispersed in the early 2000s. There is a 1970-S proof quarter known struck over a 1900 Barber Quarter, I have little doubt that the coin in the article was struck at the same time by the same people. The Secret Service reviewed the contents of the deposit box at the time of the original sale and deemed all of the contents legal to own, I'm sure this coin would fall under the same umbrella.



Sean Reynolds

This. Deliberately made folderol.

MrEureka

Originally posted by: ricko
I would like to see an enlarged picture of the 'error'...cannot detect it from any I have seen so far. Cheers, RickO

Click and then scroll down.

CoinRaritiesOnline

Perhaps it is considered an error because the guys who covertly struck this coin were covertly attempting to strike it over something else.

Tassa

Since yesterday I've had multiple calls from people with 1970 quarters and 1941 quarters telling me that they heard that those dates are worth a lot of money. Now I get it.

johnny9434

Originally posted by: ricko
I would like to see an enlarged picture of the 'error'...cannot detect it from any I have seen so far. Cheers, RickO

MedalCollector

Originally posted by: Tassa
Since yesterday I've had multiple calls from people with 1970 quarters and 1941 quarters telling me that they heard that those dates are worth a lot of money. Now I get it.

For real? That's funny!

joebb21

this is why I dont like errors.

I have always felt that many were private made

FredWeinberg

I've rec'd my share of phone calls too - mostly from people who

want to 'show me' their 1970 Quarter so I can look at it and tell

them if it's the rare one they've been reading about.



Also just got a call from the local Telemundo TV station here in

LA asking about the 'error' 1970 Quarter.



By the way, such and similar Proof Error coins are not 'privately made'.

They were struck in a U.S. Mint, by mint employees........................



Should they have gotten out? That's another question.

CaptHenway

Originally posted by: MrEureka

Originally posted by: ricko

I would like to see an enlarged picture of the 'error'...cannot detect it from any I have seen so far. Cheers, RickO

Click and then scroll down.

Thanks for the link.



Yes, every coin shop is going to get swamped with calls and people coming in. Same thing happened 10-15 years ago when a story about a 1943 bronze cent got badly garbled and every 1943 cent was worth $10,000.

MedalCollector

Buy the coin, not the story behind its creation. Isn't that how it goes?

mustangmanbob

US Mint employee using gov't property for personal gain.

One of the reasons I would not collect anything like that.

Next, how about "borrowing" a Predator Drone with 2 on the rails to take out people your list, and tip the UAV operator $20.

Buy the coin, buy a Hellfire, same thing.

Coinstudy

Like the 1964 sms coins where made with intention.I imagine what the two Felix Schlag Nickle's are worth.

Steve27

Originally posted by: FredWeinberg
I've rec'd my share of phone calls too - mostly from people who
want to 'show me' their 1970 Quarter so I can look at it and tell
them if it's the rare one they've been reading about.

Also just got a call from the local Telemundo TV station here in
LA asking about the 'error' 1970 Quarter.

By the way, such and similar Proof Error coins are not 'privately made'.
They were struck in a U.S. Mint, by mint employees........................

Should they have gotten out? That's another question.

Fred,

Isn't this one of the error coins you purchased in 2001 as part of a California Controller's Office auction of unclaimed property (along with the famous two-tailed quarter)?

FredWeinberg

This particular coin was indeed

in that very large group of major Mint

Errors sold by the Controller's Office.



I stand corrected.

TwoSides2aCoin

Well , anyway... I made inference to this coin, there.

talkingwalnut2

So doesn't this quarter struck on a Canadian planchet so to speak weigh less than a 1970 US quarter should?

Jackthecat1

Originally posted by: talkingwalnut2

So doesn't this quarter struck on a Canadian planchet so to speak weigh less than a 1970 US quarter should?

The 1941 Canadian Quarter is silver, 5.832 grams. A clad 1970 US Quarter would weigh 5.67 grams.

keets

This was absolutely made intentionally at the US Mint by workers who knew what they were doing. It is in no way an error coin.



why is this the prevailing opinion about this stuff ---BUT--- when anything is brought up from the mid-1800's which is the same thing the coins are deemed legitimate??

Ablinky

I finally decided to check what all the chatter on this coin was about, once I went to the eBay link and saw who the seller was; I was like, figures... And went back to what I was doing.

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mr1931S

Junk,worth no more than silver value.Maybe "real" according to NGC but still junk in this collector's mind.

SullivanNumismatics

Coins like this are neat, and although doubtless "helped" in its production, I think it deserves as much attention as many of the patterns do that were made specifically for collectors. Because this coin (and those patterns) were made at the Mint, by Mint employees, and using genuine mint dies and coins, they are "legitimate." The 1913 v-nickels are just as "helped" as this coin is, as are some of the 1804 dollars.

TwoSides2aCoin

This is why oddities intrigue. And the collectors who are intrigued by them have much more passion than those who scoff at them. I asked my doctor.

Byers

It is on the homepage of USA Today with a video. Here's the link:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/...dian-quarter/85599572/

Mike Byers
Mike Byers Inc

Coinosaurus

Originally posted by: CaptHenway

Originally posted by: MrEureka

Originally posted by: ricko
I would like to see an enlarged picture of the 'error'...cannot detect it from any I have seen so far. Cheers, RickO

Click and then scroll down.

Thanks for the link.

Yes, every coin shop is going to get swamped with calls and people coming in. Same thing happened 10-15 years ago when a story about a 1943 bronze cent got badly garbled and every 1943 cent was worth $10,000.

Someone needs to start a business where they filter out all these calls before passing through to the coin store

Connecticoin

So did this coin ever end up in a proof set? Also, can anyone link the original State of California sale?

mkman123

not a fan of errors......so many seem to be "INTENTIONALLY" made

ricko

I have seen no further information on this coin since the initial reports.... seems to have faded into oblivion....must be in some collectors SDB slowly aging and losing value. (Value declines as interest wanes) Cheers, RickO

rhedden

Not only does the quoted news story overlook the fact that $35,000 is just an asking price, but they imply that someone might find another example of a $35,000 overstruck error quarter lurking in their pockets.

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7Jaguars

I like these at far lower prices and have some British decimal pennies struck over 1950s sixpences bought in the 200-300 dollar range. Rather fun sport IMO, but not at ridiculous prices.

leothelyon

My apologies for bring this up again. I don't recall how I came across this but searched here to see if there has been a discussion on it and wha-la, here it is. But anyways, I thought the article was misleading, leading the public into believing there are others to be found. I mean, how many examples can be made from one Canadian quarter. But I see there are two known. Do both have the Canadian quarter perfectly aligned the same for each coin? What are the odds? They have to be of different alignments or what are the adds of the Canadian quarter coming up caribou 2-3 times in a row if there are more to be found?
http://www.snopes.com/1970-quarter-ebay-canada/

Also, I would like to add, how is it a proof since it was struck on a business strike for circulation Canadian quarter? Because it has an S mm and came from a proof set? Wasn't struck with a highly polished proof planchet/blank.

Leo