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ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭✭
Just heard that PCGS made announcement



PCGS Slab Boxes. No More PCGS blue boxes.



PCGS just announced that they are switching to a cardboard box to return

certified coins.



guess its an end of an era, wonder if the blue boxes will now be worth something as I am sure folks always want what is no longer available...
Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com
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  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭✭
    Makes sense from both and economical and environmental standpoint.

    It always seemed like an egregious waste of resources when they provisioned an entire blue box for a single coin submission.
  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,598 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: stealer
    Makes sense from both and economical and environmental standpoint.

    It always seemed like an egregious waste of resources when they provisioned an entire blue box for a single coin submission.


    Yes, I thought the same thing. I was very surprised they were sending these out freely like they have been? Oh well, maybe the OP is right. These can now be worth a premium? I have a few.image

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Would been so easy to get the re-cycle seal but they just become trash as is.
  • CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good thing I have a small hoard of the blue box.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: stealer

    Makes sense from both and economical and environmental standpoint.



    It always seemed like an egregious waste of resources when they provisioned an entire blue box for a single coin submission.




    If nothing else, it provided a larger package that would decrease the chances of the item/s getting lost or stolen. How is it any more wasteful than those who use those way oversized UPS or FEDEX boxes to ship one measly coin? The box may still be the same size, just different material.
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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    I assume they will still sell blue boxes in the PCGS store.

    Getting submissions back in blue boxes were the only thing I got for free that I could sell on eBay.image
  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,598 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: BAJJERFAN
    Originally posted by: stealer
    Makes sense from both and economical and environmental standpoint.

    It always seemed like an egregious waste of resources when they provisioned an entire blue box for a single coin submission.


    If nothing else, it provided a larger package that would decrease the chances of the item/s getting lost or stolen. How is it any more wasteful than those who use those way oversized UPS or FEDEX boxes to ship one measly coin? The box may still be the same size, just different material.


    Good point! That probably is the reason. PCGS is thinking of their customers, as not wanting the coin/coins to be lost or misplaced by the Post office.image

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good move for PCGS - there are so many out there, people were throwing them away, it was rather wasteful. I have a bunch I did not have the heart to throw away, now I will just save them to house future PCGS submissions.
  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: BAJJERFAN
    Originally posted by: stealer
    Makes sense from both and economical and environmental standpoint.

    It always seemed like an egregious waste of resources when they provisioned an entire blue box for a single coin submission.


    If nothing else, it provided a larger package that would decrease the chances of the item/s getting lost or stolen. How is it any more wasteful than those who use those way oversized UPS or FEDEX boxes to ship one measly coin? The box may still be the same size, just different material.


    Cardboard, the typical shipping box material and the new PCGS packing material, is relatively bio-degradable.

    Another way for PCGS to cut losses in buying new boxes every time is to offer some buyback program like with plastic bottles. 25 cents per box probably would've saved them a boatload of money and have been enough to incentivize opportunistic collectors/dealers to collect the boxes for return after large shows.
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cue the flood of B/S/T $10/box sell offers ! . . .3 . . .2 . . .1 image

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    guess its an end of an era, wonder if the blue boxes will now be worth something as I am sure folks always want what is no longer available...


    Maybe not, they will still probably sell them.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Last year at CSNS, I grabbed 35-40 boxes that were being discarded without even trying. It makes sense that they're doing this to avoid the expense and waste, but they are great for shipping, so I'll miss having them.
  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    Cardboard.

    Is it this?

    Text

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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thought that was partly where the $10 per order handling fee went... to cover the cost of the box... think that fee will be reduced? image
  • brg5658brg5658 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The PCGS boxes were always inferior to the NGC boxes anyway. No big loss here...
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    going to cardboard boxes such as the style used by NGC may seem like a cost cutting expense but it probably won't save much money. they'll still have a cost associated with the cardboard plus the additional cost of having to pay for labor to "build" the boxes. it may not seem like much but time is indeed money and those blue boxes were probably pretty inexpensive.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: illini420

    Thought that was partly where the $10 per order handling fee went... to cover the cost of the box... think that fee will be reduced? image




    I think I was getting them when there was no fee?



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  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i always re-use them. but, i'll re-use the cardboard ones too.
  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: keets
    going to cardboard boxes such as the style used by NGC may seem like a cost cutting expense but it probably won't save much money. they'll still have a cost associated with the cardboard plus the additional cost of having to pay for labor to "build" the boxes. it may not seem like much but time is indeed money and those blue boxes were probably pretty inexpensive.


    It comes down to quantity. Even if it saves them a few cents per box they will likely be saving quite a bit. I'm sure they did their cost/benefit and financial analyses.
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: illini420
    Thought that was partly where the $10 per order handling fee went... to cover the cost of the box... think that fee will be reduced? image


    Excellent idea!
  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    Geez, the gold colored PCGS logo print second operation after molding the box lid. It's all about efficiency.

    At least print PCGS on the cardboard box. Is that to much to ask?
  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: brg5658

    The PCGS boxes were always inferior to the NGC boxes anyway. No big loss here...




    I disagree with this.



    The actual plastic used in PCGS boxes is much stronger than the plastic used in NGC boxes. But I'm not a plastics expert, so I cannot elaborate the differences technically. I just know from trial and error. image



    But some might consider the utility of the NGC boxes to be greater than PCGS boxes because the NGC hold both types of slab.
  • goldengolden Posts: 10,004 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: illini420
    Thought that was partly where the $10 per order handling fee went... to cover the cost of the box... think that fee will be reduced? image


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  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: messydesk

    Last year at CSNS, I grabbed 35-40 boxes that were being discarded without even trying.




    Did you rent a utility van to get them home?



  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,833 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the blue boxes can not hold the new PCGS slabs then makes sense. Glad I kept all my old Teletrade boxes as these can accommodate the ANACS First Gen, ANACS last gen, ICG, all NGC, and now the new PCGS slabs. With the dozen or so extra slab boxes in closet I aint payin nothing for any new slab storage boxes.
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  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: CoinRaritiesOnline
    Originally posted by: messydesk
    Last year at CSNS, I grabbed 35-40 boxes that were being discarded without even trying.


    Did you rent a utility van to get them home?



    What? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOOOLOLLLLLLOOOOL Clever.
  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have several dozen of them. I was going to give them away or discard them, but now that I know they will be a collector's item, I'm hanging on to them!

    Tom

  • pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 6,052 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have saved all that I have received as well as the cardboard that they were pack in. I don't throw anything usable away.
  • 17751775 Posts: 81 ✭✭✭
    For those complaining about waste with the large Fed-Ex boxes ; the Insurance Companies require those / much harder to steal than a small box
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: CoinRaritiesOnline

    Originally posted by: messydesk

    Last year at CSNS, I grabbed 35-40 boxes that were being discarded without even trying.




    Did you rent a utility van to get them home?





    No, but it was a good thing I didn't ride my bike to the show that day.



  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: illini420
    Thought that was partly where the $10 per order handling fee went... to cover the cost of the box... think that fee will be reduced? image


    It can't be to cover the cost of the USPS shipping box, since they don't pay for those!

    I have several hundred of those blue boxes out in the big garage.

    Zero change they are giving back any piece of that 10 bucks!!
  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hope they keep charging y'all that $10. Good for stockholders like me! image
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: stealer
    Makes sense from both and economical and environmental standpoint.

    It always seemed like an egregious waste of resources when they provisioned an entire blue box for a single coin submission.


    They only came back in a blue box if the order was 5 coins or more. 1-4 coins came back in those stick together cardboard things.

    I have a bunch saved up, but don't like this move.image
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: 1775

    For those complaining about waste with the large Fed-Ex boxes ; the Insurance Companies require those / much harder to steal than a small box




    That's true, but it's still wasteful.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A sad day- The PCGS boxes whether the older green or the blue were wonderful and useful promotional items. Thank you PCGS for providing boxes as long as you did.

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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh no - I was hoping you were announcing a new slab box generation, not cardboard! image
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image Do you realize how many boxes it takes to hold the Complete Dimes Complete Varieties Set!!
  • Originally posted by: Cougar1978
    If the blue boxes can not hold the new PCGS slabs then makes sense. Glad I kept all my old Teletrade boxes as these can accommodate the ANACS First Gen, ANACS last gen, ICG, all NGC, and now the new PCGS slabs. With the dozen or so extra slab boxes in closet I aint payin nothing for any new slab storage boxes.



    The new slabs fit just fine in the blue boxes.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: JCLIGHTBRIGADE

    Originally posted by: Cougar1978

    If the blue boxes can not hold the new PCGS slabs then makes sense. Glad I kept all my old Teletrade boxes as these can accommodate the ANACS First Gen, ANACS last gen, ICG, all NGC, and now the new PCGS slabs. With the dozen or so extra slab boxes in closet I aint payin nothing for any new slab storage boxes.






    The new slabs fit just fine in the blue boxes.





    According to DW every 4th box made has one end slot that is slightly too small for the new slabs. The rest fit fine.

    Lance.
  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    According to DW every 4th box made has one end slot that is slightly too small for the new slabs. The rest fit fine.
    Lance.


    A four cavity mold with either a dimension or cooling / shrink problem on one cavity. The blue box molds are probably pretty old.

    Then again, maybe the injection molder wants more money per piece and pcgs said uh, uh, no, no.
  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why haven't any 3D printer folks started selling made-to-order slab boxes? You could make them fit ANACS, PCGS, and NGC coins in the same box. You could also make them smaller or larger. That's one of the first things I would make if I had one image
  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image



    I used to get mine off the BST as needed.



    Here are six of them used to organize my silver Washington Quarters.



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  • ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    after reading posts about people wanting to neg an ebay seller after receiving a slab with one of the stacker tabs broken off (GASP) I wonder how well the slabs are going to hold up during shipment (with 19 other coins) in a cardboard box
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: sparky64

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    I used to get mine off the BST as needed.



    Here are six of them used to organize my silver Washington Quarters.



    image




    Nice job!!



    I too store my collection in them. Maybe they should make a nicer box and sell them outright.

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  • jonrunsjonruns Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I received a green box with my 30th Anniversary slab.image
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: jessewvu

    Why haven't any 3D printer folks started selling made-to-order slab boxes? You could make them fit ANACS, PCGS, and NGC coins in the same box. You could also make them smaller or larger. That's one of the first things I would make if I had one image


    How much would you pay for a 3D-printed custom box that's as strong as the PCGS blue boxes?



  • CyStaterCyStater Posts: 681 ✭✭✭
    The outside labeling idea is brilliant. I am stealing that.
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: CoinRaritiesOnline
    Originally posted by: messydesk
    Last year at CSNS, I grabbed 35-40 boxes that were being discarded without even trying.


    Did you rent a utility van to get them home?



    image
  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: CyStater

    The outside labeling idea is brilliant. I am stealing that.


    (c) 2015 image

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am sorry to see these plastic boxes go. I have several of them, without the lids, in my safe deposit boxes at the bank. They provide a way to keep the slabs from scratching each other.
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