Gold Mercury Dime a Caricature
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I'm not a Mercury dime specialist, but it wasn't hard to recognize the lack of detail on the gold commemorative when compared with the original, even without looking at the original. Not as much detail in the wing or hair braid and no split bands on the reverse both jumped out at me. I assume the relief is also lower, like it is with the AGE bullion coins. I'm disappointed, though not surprised, that a coin that will sell for a premium to collectors couldn't have detail true to the original. Die life is no excuse, as only 1900 were struck from each die, which is probably a fraction of a percent of the die life of actual Mercury dime dies, and they were struck in a comparatively soft metal.
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not FB for sure. do you suppose any will be?
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not FB for sure. do you suppose any will be?
I doubt it.
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PCGS has separate coin numbers on these for coins w/ and w/o FB, so at least PCGS is optimistic that they will be grading some of these w/ FB.
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I think it would have been more interesting if they had struck an actual dime for circulation, even if it was clad.
That would have been a great idea , circulating commemoratives . That makes too much sense though.
Regardless of how tacky they look , the mint should do pretty well flogging this stuff to a certain demographic. The usual suspects in the secondary market will extract their pound of flesh as well.
I would certainly hope that depiction is just that...and the actual coin will be replete with detail matching the originals. Cheers, RickO
This has been my thought. It's a poorly done digital drawing, not an actual image of one of the coins.
If however, this is how it really looks. It is ugly!
I knew it would happen.
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not FB for sure. do you suppose any will be?
no and it would help if it did ( i hope )
PCGS has separate coin numbers on these for coins w/ and w/o FB, so at least PCGS is optimistic that they will be grading some of these w/ FB.
Plot twist.
really sad if that is what it looks like as a finished product.
they are unable/unwilling to create a product that truly replicates the intent of the original
designer and mint workers that produced the coin for the first time in 1916, thereby turning it
into just a pile of
Further, to not make it full band is a disgrace.
It would have been nice to see a 2016 version in silver high relief like that of 1916 and
part of 1917. Even though I am not a buyer of modern "stuff" from the mint, I may have
actually jumped all over that one since I am such a fan of Mercury Dimes. Oh well.
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It has the form of the original, but not the soul.
Dimeman, doesn't this present a quandary for you, particularly if the Mint is calling this a dime? Do you have the 1996-W Roosie or the 2015-P Reverse Proof? How do you decide where to draw the line?
Not a quandary at all. I have the 96-W because it was made for circ and is in the Registry sets. I don't have and NEVER will have any of the mint rev proof "stuff". Just no interest at ALL.
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another way to part suckers with their cash
good thing I avoid these things
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If Teddy Roosevelt were alive to see this, he would blow a gasket with anger.
The U.S. Mint has transformed itself from a bastion of numismatic art into a money grubbing mass marketing producer of widgets.
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I don't care for any of the mint "stuff" including these silly Mercury looking dimes in gold. Good grief!
Dimeman, doesn't this present a quandary for you, particularly if the Mint is calling this a dime? Do you have the 1996-W Roosie or the 2015-P Reverse Proof? How do you decide where to draw the line?
Not a quandary at all. I have the 96-W because it was made for circ and is in the Registry sets. I don't have and NEVER will have any of the mint rev proof "stuff". Just no interest at ALL.
The 2016-W dime will have a circulation-strike finish and, based on the precedent of the 2014 gold Kennedy half, will likely be in the Registry sets.
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Overall, it is not a bad rendition. The hair is slightly different in detail, but not significantly different.
The relief is about the same depth as the original dime.
The coin imaged actually DOES have FULL BANDS. The lighting source is directly from the right, and so that makes it exactly PARALLEL to the bands. This has the effect of making their delineation nearly invisible.
Had the lighting direction been from the top, the bands would readily show separation.
But curiously, it looks like there are four thin bands at the bottom while the original had two thicker bands.
I note three things which I would have done differently:
1) The style of the date digits is a little off, especially the "2".
2) The neck truncation seems a little awkward and farther from the rim than the original. For many years the US Mint has been unnecessarily afraid of having any design elements close to the rim.
3) I would have arranged the gold content markings differently.
I am presently working on, and about to come out with, some "fantasy-date over-strikes" of Winged Liberty Head silver dimes (and Standing Liberty Quarters and Walking Liberty Halfs).
It has recently occurred to me that I could also potentially over-strike these 2016 gold dimes
I am presently working on, and about to come out with, some "fantasy-date over-strikes" of Winged Liberty Head silver dimes (and Standing Liberty Quarters and Walking Liberty Halfs).
How about a nice 3-coin set of 1922's?
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I am presently working on, and about to come out with, some "fantasy-date over-strikes" of Winged Liberty Head silver dimes (and Standing Liberty Quarters and Walking Liberty Halfs).
How about a nice 3-coin set of 1922's?
Into what? J/W
Yep. Evidence of bands is poorly portrayed in bottom band of mint artwork, but the bands are there.
Into what? J/W
I have dies for fantasy-date over-strikes of Winged Liberty Head dimes.
I soon plan to use them to over-strike original 1916-1945 silver dimes.
But I could also use those same dies to produce a gold version, by over-striking these 2016 gold dimes.
I see a big could there.
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I would certainly hope that depiction is just that...and the actual coin will be replete with detail matching the originals. Cheers, RickO
This has been my thought. It's a poorly done digital drawing, not an actual image of one of the coins.
If however, this is how it really looks. It is ugly!
I hope that is the case. Because if that depiction is what the coin will look like, they should hire Dan Carr, who would do a much better job.
Seems to me that the " industry" wouldn't want high quality competition for the old stuff. You're talking about reaching into their pockets.
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How about a nice 3-coin set of 1922's?
I was hoping for a 42/1-S or a 46.
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How about a nice 3-coin set of 1922's?
I was hoping for a 42/1-S or a 46.
I wouldn't do a "1942/1-S" because that date already exists (just not with an "S" mint mark).
A "1946" Winged Liberty head dime is something that is very possible at some point.
But that date is not one of the three fantasy-dates for this type that I'm about to release in a few days.
I wouldn't do a "1942/1-S" because that date already exists (just not with an "S" mint mark).
A "1946" Winged Liberty head dime is something that is very possible at some point.
But that date is not one of the three fantasy-dates for this type that I'm about to release in a few days.
Oh do say more, puhleez
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The only lack of detail that I see is in the bands.
Can't wait to see the gold SLQs and WLHs, too!
They are sure to be sold for a huge premium on the secondary market.
I am also interested to hear about the HYPE surrounding these coins and the circus acts to follow.
It looks like the price is still yet to be determined.
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