Originally posted by: TwoSides2aCoin Putin is withdrawing troops from Syria. Now back to Crimea and the Ukraine, right ? Oh, I'm sorry. Wrong thread. I was thinking of the IKE, not the Donald.
Originally posted by: TwoSides2aCoin Putin is withdrawing troops from Syria. Now back to Crimea and the Ukraine, right ? Oh, I'm sorry. Wrong thread. I was thinking of the IKE, not the Donald.
"Beware the military industrial complex".
Get them all out.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
Gateway Pundit documents a couple of Hillary supporters showing up at Trump rallies wearing Hitler-style armbands. False flags everywhere.
Still, there's no telling what a Trump administration might actually do. The Supreme Court appointments are gonna be the end game if he screws that up. Hopefully he wouldn't.
Trump's & Carson's joint press conference yesterday morning was interesting and hopeful. It's worth the 45 minutes.
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Originally posted by: TwoSides2aCoin There's them and there's us. And they are for them and we are for us.
But we pay them to be for us.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
Originally posted by: TwoSides2aCoin I'm not trashing veterans or anyone, you silly man.
Your original post looked that way and your replies didn't clear much up.
Edited to add I see later in the thread you mentioned your service to this country. Why didn't you just mention that? Pot stirrer.
PLEADING and begging are so closely related. I could beg for peace. The post does appear to "stir" the thinkers and a lot of my real conservative comrades…, and maybe provoke, more, my "not so conservative" friends.
It's not my intent to "incite". Moreover, to inject a little "insight" from my perspective. Wasn't looking for battle lines here. If Ron were to discuss his actual views in Private Message, or anyone…. for that matter, chances are we would find common ground and peace. Just as we do on most of our streets in America.
It's shameful that are choices are so dismal. Our brightest stars want nothing to with the back alley skeleton dredging underworld of politics
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Frankly, I'm rather surprised at how poorly spoken he can be at times. He is good at capturing the media's (and his audience's) attention, though, with buzz words and hyperbolic verbiage. Reality TV at its finest and we're all along for the ride. I just hope his finger doesn't get too twitchy on the button the first time a world leader insults or criticizes him.
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Originally posted by: mhammerman We're talkin' about a pretty hard right turn here. Some eggs will be broken, hopefully they won't be the ones in my nest.
Got gold?
This is about as close as we are going to get to a much needed revolution. Welcome it.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
Originally posted by: mhammerman We're talkin' about a pretty hard right turn here. Some eggs will be broken, hopefully they won't be the ones in my nest.
Got gold?
This is about as close as we are going to get to a much needed revolution. Welcome it.
Agree, good , bad, or indifferent, the ride is interesting. Although, my father was an amateur magician (slight of hand) and that's stuck with me. You know, the distraction.
Originally posted by: mhammerman We're talkin' about a pretty hard right turn here. Some eggs will be broken, hopefully they won't be the ones in my nest.
Got gold?
This is about as close as we are going to get to a much needed revolution. Welcome it.
Sometimes it does take a major disruption to promote change. Clearly the system needs to be overhauled and changed but who has the ability to do it? The wheel has been in place for so long how do we start to change it? Maybe we need an apprentice program for future presidents.
If Trump won I think it's possible he could quit. He would become so frustrated with all the politics that he would just walk out.
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Originally posted by: mhammerman We're talkin' about a pretty hard right turn here. Some eggs will be broken, hopefully they won't be the ones in my nest.
Got gold?
This is about as close as we are going to get to a much needed revolution. Welcome it.
Sometimes it does take a major disruption to promote change. Clearly the system needs to be overhauled and changed but who has the ability to do it? The wheel has been in place for so long how do we start to change it? Maybe we need an apprentice program for future presidents.
We start with an outsider - one whom the insiders will do everything they can to discredit. Let their fear be your courage. Forget WHO he is and focus on WHAT he is. The insiders are scared do death of you having a choice that is outside of the two choices they prefer to give you. Their two choices are fellow insiders.
Gold has moved up the last decade due to a lack of confidence in the insiders running the show. I'd much rather have confidence in my leaders than have a need for my gold. When I can exchange my gold for a currency that will not be weaker tomorrow or for an asset that has not been inflated by the bubble blowing prophets of doom, I will gladly make the exchange. Until then I'll hold the gold insurance policy.
I look forward to change that was promised and not delivered by the last guy. He probably really thought he could change things, but didn't realize the guys who got him there would not let him. I like a candidate who owes nothing to those guys. Appears this guy's only debt will be to the voters who put him there. This is what scares those insiders so much. Let the lengths they will go to to keep him out define for you the depth of their fear and the need for anyone who is an outsider."
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
Originally posted by: Justacommeman It's shameful that are choices are so dismal. Our brightest stars want nothing to with the back alley skeleton dredging underworld of politics
mark
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Luckily, a President Trump would not be in charge of the economy directly. I think there is a 100% chance of a huge ground war in Iraq and Syria if he's elected. He views debt as a tool and would promote a vast expansion on the debt to finance this mega-war. Think of the last Iraq war times 10.
Luckily, a President Trump would not be in charge of the economy directly. I think there is a 100% chance of a huge ground war in Iraq and Syria if he's elected. He views debt as a tool and would promote a vast expansion on the debt to finance this mega-war. Think of the last Iraq war times 10.
If Hillary gets in we will invade Syria during her swearing in.
mark
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Luckily, a President Trump would not be in charge of the economy directly. I think there is a 100% chance of a huge ground war in Iraq and Syria if he's elected. He views debt as a tool and would promote a vast expansion on the debt to finance this mega-war. Think of the last Iraq war times 10.
If Hillary gets in we will invade Syria during her swearing in.
mark
Whatever, but i think the recent run-up in PM is due to Trump's rise for this very reason.
If you're going to run a business you need business acumen . When all these business leaders, church leaders, media moguls , politicians from both sides are doing all they can to ruin the guy and his platform, they must be afraid. I see both parties trying to separate themselves from a guy who obviously speaks out against Status Quo. Not that he hasn't been quite capable of managing his life in the midst of it (status quo).
Read an interesting analysis recently that proposed that if he had just invested what he inherited in a passive index fund he'd have about $3 billion more than he's got after however many decades of "actively managing" it.
Luckily, a President Trump would not be in charge of the economy directly. I think there is a 100% chance of a huge ground war in Iraq and Syria if he's elected. He views debt as a tool and would promote a vast expansion on the debt to finance this mega-war. Think of the last Iraq war times 10.
If Hillary gets in we will invade Syria during her swearing in.
mark
Whatever, but i think the recent run-up in PM is due to Trump's rise for this very reason.
Like I said I believe Hillary would lead us to war VERY quickly. Then maybe it's Hillarys extension of the lead and clear path to the White House that's driving precious metals. Me personally thinks it' Fed and monenary related.
mark
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The NSA has so much dirt on Hellary that a tiny tug on her string will have us invading wherever seems most useful to her neo-fascist-conservato-commi masters.
The NSA has so much dirt on Hellary that a tiny tug on her string will have us invading wherever seems most useful to her neo-fascist-conservato-commi masters.
One must consider the agendas of the two parties to understand why they BOTH hate the thought of him winning.
Do not forget that a prez is only part of the equation. It takes an agreeing congress to complete the dance. This works both ways. I suspect the fear on both sides is that he will make it harder for congress to continue its rape of the American public.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
Originally posted by: cohodk Trump loves debt.....and he likes to default on it.
Very true. As a New Yorker I'm well aware of Trump's use of debt. It is at least his own debt. The difference is, the politicians enjoy foisting debt upon others.
Me personally thinks it' Fed and monenary related. mark
I believe you meant (monetary) .. 10 4, along with a weaker dollar.
I indeed did. Typing with ambien in you will do that
mark
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Now that the FED is buying the debt here is how it works:
-FED creates money (QE) and buys government bonds. -US Treasury Dept. pays interest on those bonds to the FED. -FED returns to the government the profits it earns from the interest income. -This means the government is not really paying interest on the bonds. -As long as the FED holds the bonds, they profit, turn most of the profits back over to the government and the government never has to pay the face value of the bond.
By creating money and buying it's government's bonds, a central bank is cancelling that government's debt unless the central bank sells those bonds. The key to not bankrupting a nation will be in not ever selling those bonds.
Currently the US FED holds $2.5 trillion in US debt. That's 15% of all US government debt. This currently results in the ratio of US government debt to GDP being 91%, not the publicly declared 105%. As the FED's holdings of this debt grow, the US government's "real" debt actually shrinks. Amazing what you can do with a pen and paper.
At some point will the FED (private bankers) hold enough US gov. debt to hold the US gov. hostage and take control of it by threatening to sell the debt on the open market?
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
Trump loves debt.....and he likes to default on it.
So who we owe the debt to China = let it default
Tell them all to stick it where sun dont shine! I just dont care what the rest of the ungracious world thinks.
Our credit rating would drop to zero. No one would lend us money.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Originally posted by: cohodk Trump loves debt.....and he likes to default on it.
So who we owe the debt to China = let it default
Tell them all to stick it where sun dont shine! I just dont care what the rest of the ungracious world thinks.
Our credit rating would drop to zero. No one would lend us money.
The Fed will just create some like they have been. Way I hear it on the news the USA's bad situation is way better than anybody else's. We need to fix home and let things sort themselves out over seas.
My guess is that if the Donald is selected, all the ills that have been deflected during the past eight years will be dumped on him day one. He will own it; the Media will harp on him daily. Debt will matter, real unemployment will be revealed, blah, blah, blah.
Who woulda thunk that a vote for one man could represent a vote against so many others, most of who are not even in the running.
Stockman says he should offer one of them the VP slot and the other the supreme court slot and get them out of the race.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
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Putin is withdrawing troops from Syria. Now back to Crimea and the Ukraine, right ? Oh, I'm sorry. Wrong thread. I was thinking of the IKE, not the Donald.
"Beware the military industrial complex".
Today it's "Beware the Gov't-Media complex."
Putin is withdrawing troops from Syria. Now back to Crimea and the Ukraine, right ? Oh, I'm sorry. Wrong thread. I was thinking of the IKE, not the Donald.
"Beware the military industrial complex".
Get them all out.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
Still, there's no telling what a Trump administration might actually do. The Supreme Court appointments are gonna be the end game if he screws that up. Hopefully he wouldn't.
Trump's & Carson's joint press conference yesterday morning was interesting and hopeful. It's worth the 45 minutes.
I knew it would happen.
Hillary actually is a republican in all but name , thats why they dont want a candidate to beat her.
I knew it would happen.
There's them and there's us. And they are for them and we are for us.
But we pay them to be for us.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
I'm not trashing veterans or anyone, you silly man.
Your original post looked that way and your replies didn't clear much up.
Edited to add I see later in the thread you mentioned your service to this country. Why didn't you just mention that? Pot stirrer.
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I'm not trashing veterans or anyone, you silly man.
Your original post looked that way and your replies didn't clear much up.
Edited to add I see later in the thread you mentioned your service to this country. Why didn't you just mention that? Pot stirrer.
PLEADING and begging are so closely related. I could beg for peace. The post does appear to "stir" the thinkers and a lot of my real conservative comrades…, and maybe provoke, more, my "not so conservative" friends.
It's not my intent to "incite". Moreover, to inject a little "insight" from my perspective.
Wasn't looking for battle lines here. If Ron were to discuss his actual views in Private Message, or anyone…. for that matter, chances are we would find common ground and peace. Just as we do on most of our streets in America.
There are many roads that lead to living in hell, this would be one route.
mark
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We're talkin' about a pretty hard right turn here. Some eggs will be broken, hopefully they won't be the ones in my nest.
Got gold?
This is about as close as we are going to get to a much needed revolution. Welcome it.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
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We're talkin' about a pretty hard right turn here. Some eggs will be broken, hopefully they won't be the ones in my nest.
Got gold?
This is about as close as we are going to get to a much needed revolution. Welcome it.
Agree, good , bad, or indifferent, the ride is interesting.
Although, my father was an amateur magician (slight of hand) and that's stuck with me.
You know, the distraction.
We're talkin' about a pretty hard right turn here. Some eggs will be broken, hopefully they won't be the ones in my nest.
Got gold?
This is about as close as we are going to get to a much needed revolution. Welcome it.
Sometimes it does take a major disruption to promote change. Clearly the system needs to be overhauled and changed but who has the ability to do it? The wheel has been in place for so long how do we start to change it? Maybe we need an apprentice program for future presidents.
If Trump won I think it's possible he could quit. He would become so frustrated with all the politics that he would just walk out.
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We're talkin' about a pretty hard right turn here. Some eggs will be broken, hopefully they won't be the ones in my nest.
Got gold?
This is about as close as we are going to get to a much needed revolution. Welcome it.
Sometimes it does take a major disruption to promote change. Clearly the system needs to be overhauled and changed but who has the ability to do it? The wheel has been in place for so long how do we start to change it? Maybe we need an apprentice program for future presidents.
We start with an outsider - one whom the insiders will do everything they can to discredit. Let their fear be your courage. Forget WHO he is and focus on WHAT he is. The insiders are scared do death of you having a choice that is outside of the two choices they prefer to give you. Their two choices are fellow insiders.
Gold has moved up the last decade due to a lack of confidence in the insiders running the show. I'd much rather have confidence in my leaders than have a need for my gold. When I can exchange my gold for a currency that will not be weaker tomorrow or for an asset that has not been inflated by the bubble blowing prophets of doom, I will gladly make the exchange. Until then I'll hold the gold insurance policy.
I look forward to change that was promised and not delivered by the last guy. He probably really thought he could change things, but didn't realize the guys who got him there would not let him. I like a candidate who owes nothing to those guys. Appears this guy's only debt will be to the voters who put him there. This is what scares those insiders so much. Let the lengths they will go to to keep him out define for you the depth of their fear and the need for anyone who is an outsider."
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
It's shameful that are choices are so dismal. Our brightest stars want nothing to with the back alley skeleton dredging underworld of politics
mark
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Luckily, a President Trump would not be in charge of the economy directly. I think there is a 100% chance of a huge ground war in Iraq and Syria if he's elected. He views debt as a tool and would promote a vast expansion on the debt to finance this mega-war. Think of the last Iraq war times 10.
If Hillary gets in we will invade Syria during her swearing in.
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Luckily, a President Trump would not be in charge of the economy directly. I think there is a 100% chance of a huge ground war in Iraq and Syria if he's elected. He views debt as a tool and would promote a vast expansion on the debt to finance this mega-war. Think of the last Iraq war times 10.
If Hillary gets in we will invade Syria during her swearing in.
mark
Whatever, but i think the recent run-up in PM is due to Trump's rise for this very reason.
Read an interesting analysis recently that proposed that if he had just invested what he inherited in a passive index fund he'd have about $3 billion more than he's got after however many decades of "actively managing" it.
So much for business acumen.
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Luckily, a President Trump would not be in charge of the economy directly. I think there is a 100% chance of a huge ground war in Iraq and Syria if he's elected. He views debt as a tool and would promote a vast expansion on the debt to finance this mega-war. Think of the last Iraq war times 10.
If Hillary gets in we will invade Syria during her swearing in.
mark
Whatever, but i think the recent run-up in PM is due to Trump's rise for this very reason.
Like I said I believe Hillary would lead us to war VERY quickly. Then maybe it's Hillarys extension of the lead and clear path to the White House that's driving precious metals. Me personally thinks it' Fed and monenary related.
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
One must consider the agendas of the two parties to understand why they BOTH hate the thought of him winning.
Do not forget that a prez is only part of the equation. It takes an agreeing congress to complete the dance. This works both ways. I suspect the fear on both sides is that he will make it harder for congress to continue its rape of the American public.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
I believe you meant (monetary) .. 10 4, along with a weaker dollar.
Trump loves debt.....and he likes to default on it.
Very true.
As a New Yorker I'm well aware of Trump's use of debt.
It is at least his own debt.
The difference is, the politicians enjoy foisting debt upon others.
Trump loves debt.....and he likes to default on it.
Sort of like the United States. As if our people , the next generation, or the generation after will be able to pay the FED off and not have "debt".
Our leaders have been in the red for as long as we've been in the blue vs. the grey.
Red is the new black
I believe you meant (monetary) .. 10 4, along with a weaker dollar.
I indeed did. Typing with ambien in you will do that
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I believe you meant (monetary) .. 10 4, along with a weaker dollar.
I indeed did. Typing with ambien in you will do that
mark
I just count sheep, but my fingers have a mind of their own
Now that the FED is buying the debt here is how it works:
-FED creates money (QE) and buys government bonds.
-US Treasury Dept. pays interest on those bonds to the FED.
-FED returns to the government the profits it earns from the interest income.
-This means the government is not really paying interest on the bonds.
-As long as the FED holds the bonds, they profit, turn most of the profits back over to the government and the government never has to pay the face value of the bond.
By creating money and buying it's government's bonds, a central bank is cancelling that government's debt unless the central bank sells those bonds. The key to not bankrupting a nation will be in not ever selling those bonds.
Currently the US FED holds $2.5 trillion in US debt. That's 15% of all US government debt. This currently results in the ratio of US government debt to GDP being 91%, not the publicly declared 105%. As the FED's holdings of this debt grow, the US government's "real" debt actually shrinks. Amazing what you can do with a pen and paper.
At some point will the FED (private bankers) hold enough US gov. debt to hold the US gov. hostage and take control of it by threatening to sell the debt on the open market?
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
Trump loves debt.....and he likes to default on it.
So who we owe the debt to China = let it default
Tell them all to stick it where sun dont shine! I just dont care what the rest of the ungracious world thinks.
Trump loves debt.....and he likes to default on it.
So who we owe the debt to China = let it default
Tell them all to stick it where sun dont shine! I just dont care what the rest of the ungracious world thinks.
Our credit rating would drop to zero. No one would lend us money.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Trump loves debt.....and he likes to default on it.
So who we owe the debt to China = let it default
Tell them all to stick it where sun dont shine! I just dont care what the rest of the ungracious world thinks.
Our credit rating would drop to zero. No one would lend us money.
The Fed will just create some like they have been. Way I hear it on the news the USA's bad situation is way better than anybody else's.
We need to fix home and let things sort themselves out over seas.
Trump loves debt.....and he likes to default on it.
So who we owe the debt to China = let it default
Tell them all to stick it where sun dont shine! I just dont care what the rest of the ungracious world thinks.
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Trump loves debt.....and he likes to default on it.
...and leave the taxpayer holding the bag.
Trump loves debt.....and he likes to default on it.
...and leave the taxpayer holding the bag.
...and that's different from what is happening now because...???
It's either a good debate , or an authoritarian/ dictatorial process, on the road to progress.
There must be checks and balances. (that's what most of us think)
Stockman says he should offer one of them the VP slot and the other the supreme court slot and get them out of the race.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey