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Ever wonder where famous coin portraits came from? (Eye Candy Alert ... Sunglasses Required!)

A combination of some eye candy of some my my toner examples and some history of where famous coin portraits came from (or their inspiration).
I hope I have this information roughly correct, I tried to research a bit on the fly, but cannot guarantee 100% accuracy, but hopefully close.
All the coin images are PCGS TrueView photos shot by Phil Arnold, with a bit of levels adjustment in Photoshop to help bring out the detail.
Coins are from WingedLiberty's "Color of Money" Collection.

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  • CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's pretty neat. Awesome coins!
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice job! I like that you showed *my* 1955 quarter. image

    *One day..... image



    Cool thread, maybe others could add other series to the thread in the same spirit.
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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,923 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great post! Thank you!
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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Very cool presentation. image
  • brg5658brg5658 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭✭✭




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    Cool pictures, but I thought it was pretty well established that the 1785 bust by Houdon was the inspiration for the Washington Quarter design?



    The Gilbert Stuart painting you have pictured is that used as the inspiration for the $1 bill.
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  • WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: brg5658


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    Cool pictures, but I thought it was pretty well established that the 1785 bust by Houdon was the inspiration for the Washington Quarter design?


    You very well could be 100% correct on that one!
    I will "redo" this image if I can verify that.
    This 1785 Bust ?

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  • Originally posted by: WingedLiberty1957

    Originally posted by: brg5658





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    Cool pictures, but I thought it was pretty well established that the 1785 bust by Houdon was the inspiration for the Washington Quarter design?




    You very well could be 100% correct on that one! ...

    I might "redo" this image if I can verify that.




    It is in Vermule's Numismatic Art in America.
  • brg5658brg5658 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: WingedLiberty1957

    Originally posted by: brg5658





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    Cool pictures, but I thought it was pretty well established that the 1785 bust by Houdon was the inspiration for the Washington Quarter design?




    You very well could be 100% correct on that one!

    I will "redo" this image if I can verify that.

    This 1785 Bust ?



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    Yes, that's it!



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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great presentation.
  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭✭✭
    very well done. i think the washie looks more like the portrait than the bust, but i don't know the history.
  • RB1026RB1026 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭✭
    Love it! Well done and thank you for the time and effort you put into the endeavor!
  • WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the correction, esteemed members!

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  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Super cool!!
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  • DaveWcoinsDaveWcoins Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: cmerlo1

    Great post! Thank you!




    +1
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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,437 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is interesting to see just how much Lincoln's nose was changed by Brenner.
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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: 291fifth

    It is interesting to see just how much Lincoln's nose was changed by Brenner.




    I was thinking the same thing.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,344 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: CommemKing
    That's pretty neat. Awesome coins!


    +1!
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  • RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: 291fifth

    It is interesting to see just how much Lincoln's nose was changed by Brenner.






    The ears are smaller as well.
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  • coinnutcoinnut Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great post. Well done!
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great post, thanks!
  • WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Realone
    Excellent work, now if you can show Martha Washington with the 1792 h10c it will be completeimage


    Was that coin definitely Martha? I thought there was some controversy about that?
  • WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Saca Dollar is a cool story ...

    Invitations were sent out to 23 prominent artists and sculptors to design the new coin. The requirements stated that the obverse must depict Sacagawea and the reverse must depict an eagle to represent freedom and peace.

    Glenna Goodacre used Randy'L He-dow Teton as the model for the bust of Sacagawea. Randy'L He-dow Teton attended the nearby University of New Mexico and is also part of the American Indian Shoshone tribe just as Sacagawea.

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    Photo above shows the Sacagawea Dollar design unveiled at the White House.
    Left to Right: First Lady Hillary Clinton, Sacagawea Model Randy'L He-dow Teton, Designer Glenna Goodacre.
  • ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great post! Thanks for taking the time to put it together...





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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Like. Nice work!

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  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice assembly.

    I don't recall see one or two of them before.

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,108 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for a great presentation. Both informative and quite enjoyable. Is there any documentation for Elsie Stevens being the model for the Walking Liberty Half Dollar or

    is it being attributed to Roty's "sower" design? For discussion's sake it appears to me that the likeness of Ms. Steven's head and the likeness of Roty's French design were combined.

    Again, I appreciate your post.

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  • WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    From an internet search ...

    "Weinman began working on some of his first commissions, which included an award medal that would be given to participants at the Louisiana Purchase Exposition of 1904 in St. Louis. This medal was struck and produced at the Philadelphia Mint. This coin was an early predecessor of the Walking Liberty half dollar coin that he would be designing a few years later, as both have similar designs of a walking liberty and rising sun with rays. The dime that Weinman designed became known as the Mercury Dime, and his half dollar became known as the Walking Liberty Half Dollar. The designs of both of these coins were actually inspired by a real person named Elsie Kachel Stevens. Weinman actually sculpted a bust of her 3 years earlier in 1913. The dime features the detailed face of Elsie Stevens while the Walking Liberty half dollar features part of her full figure on the half dollar."

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  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    Very good...I knew some of them but not all.
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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very informative. Thank you!

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  • halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: WingedLiberty1957

    Thanks for the correction, esteemed members!



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    Almost looks like he used the Houdon bust with hair (wig) from the Stewart painting.



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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool presentation WL!



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  • WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: halfhunter
    Almost looks like he used the Houdon bust with hair (wig) from the Stewart painting.
    HH


    I agree. On the bust the hair looks chopped on the side. (I wonder if part of the hair on the bust broke off at some point in the past?)
  • WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    (By the way, this is a PR67 (not mine) with one of the best strikes I've ever seen in that series)
  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great post. I enjoyed it. Thanks.
  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: mannie gray
    Originally posted by: 291fifth
    It is interesting to see just how much Lincoln's nose was changed by Brenner.


    I was thinking the same thing.


    Ditto. And a nicely done presentation!

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  • WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    (Info and engraved image from CUForum member MWallace. Thank you!)

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  • WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    (Coin shown is Simpson's stunning PR68)

    The Victory Statue (or Winged Victory) was also a strong contributor ... it was used as part of the Sherman Memorial. I have seen that Victory Statue as a stand-alone statue in other venues though. I might be misrepresenting this info ... so correct me if I am mistaken.

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool indeed!
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  • robecrobec Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This makes learning fun.



    Stunning presentation!!
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great post and thread..... very informative...thanks to all contributors...Cheers, RickO
  • WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    On June 20, 1945, about four million people jammed onto the streets of New York City for a World War II victory parade. Buried in the the crowd was a young artist and junior U.S. Mint engraver, Frank Gasparro (1909-2001) hoping for a glimpse of his hero, 5-Star General Dwight D. Eisenhower. Towards the end of the parade, Frank did get a brief glimpse of his hero, and that one fleeting moment changed future U.S. numismatic history.

    As soon as he returned to the U.S. Mint in Philadelphia, Gasparro made a sketch that captured Eisenhower's strong and determined gaze. Twenty-Six years later that sketch became the inspiration for one of America's most legendary modern coins – the Eisenhower Dollar.

    The story of the Eisenhower Dollar starts with the Apollo 11 space mission. On July 20, 1969, Apollo 11 astronaut Neil Armstrong became the first person to set foot on the moon. With America caught up in "space fever", the U.S. Mint looked for a way to honor this world-changing moon-landing event and it needed a coin as impressive as the achievement itself. So the one-dollar coin was resurrected. That large coin size/denomination hadn't been used since 1935, the final year of the Peace Silver Dollar.

    At the same time, the Mint wanted to honor Dwight D. Eisenhower, who died shortly before Apollo 11. Since as president, Eisenhower helped create NASA -- and without his vision, the moon landing might never have happened -- Eisenhower and Apollo 11 became the perfect match for this coin. So Frank Gasparro began work on mating his old 26 year old sketch of Eisenhower with the Apollo 11 Mission Insignia to create this new coin.

    The Eisenhower Dollar was minted from 1971 through 1978. However there are no Eisenhower Dollars dated 1975, since that entire year was used to strike the 1976 bicentennial dollars which had a special reverse featuring the Liberty Bell. Special 40% Silver Ikes were struck for Collectors at the San Francisco mint throughout the series. These coins were basically unloved and little used during their short run, but have been undergoing a collector resurrection in recent years due to their large size, low cost, and short run making collecting the complete set a relatively low cost endeavor.

    However it should be noted that extremely high-grade business strikes are quite rare and expensive due to their low field populations -- PCGS lists MS67 business strikes as having a fair market value of between $4,000 and $15,000 each, depending on the year. High grade proofs remain very low priced however.

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    Frank Gasparro working on a proposed Liberty Head Design Dollar Coin in 1977
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Excellent post! Thanks very much for sharing!
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  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love threads like this. Great job.
  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool, thanks for sharing! What/who was the inspiration for the barber half/quarter/dime?
  • WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Coin is a PR66BN (not mine) of provenance "Larry Shepherd Collection".

    From internet searches ...

    The two-cent piece was designed by James B. Longacre and was produced for circulation from 1864 to 1872 and for minted for collectors only in 1873. Mintages steadily decreased each year.

    The obverse design is a Longacre version of the Great Seal of the United States. His design focuses on the shield, or escutcheon, as a defensive weapon, signifying strength and self-protection through unity. The upper part of the shield (or "chief") symbolizes Congress, while the 13 vertical stripes (or "paleways") represent the states. Consequently the entire escutcheon symbolizes the strength of the federal government through the unity of the states.

    The crossed arrows represent nonaggression, but imply readiness against attack. The laurel branches, taken from Greek tradition, symbolize victory. In heraldic engraving, vertical lines represent red, clear areas white and horizontal lines blue, thus the escutcheon is (in theory) colored red, white, and blue and is meant to evoke the American flag.

    Art historian Cornelius Vermeule deemed the two-cent piece "the most Gothic and the most expressive of the Civil War" of all American coins. "The shield, arrows, and wreath of the obverse need only flanking cannon to be the consummate expression of Civil War heraldry."

    Longacre's two-cent piece was the first coin inscribed with "In God We Trust". The motto was popularized by the new coin; on March 3, 1865 Congress passed legislation ordering its use on all coins large enough to permit it. Since 1938, "In God We Trust" has been used on all American coins.

    The background of the motto (from what I have read) is as follows. In late 1861, Reverend Mark Watkinson of Pennsylvania, wrote to Treasury Secretary Chase and Mint Director Pollock, proposing that some reference to God be placed on the coinage "in this time of Civil War". Several motto's were considered, including "God Our Trust" and "God and Our Country". He later wrote "the motto on each, such as all who fear God and love their country, will approve." Chase responded that it should be changed to read: "IN GOD WE TRUST." Pollock had been inspired by The Star Spangled Banner, a later stanza of which includes the line, "And this be our motto, In God Is Our Trust". Chase may have also been influenced in his decision by the motto of his alma mater, Brown University, which read In Deo Speramus (In God We Hope).
  • WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: ShadyDave
    What/who was the inspiration for the barber half/quarter/dime?


    Really sketchy info on the Barber coinage inspiration. Best I can come up with is the design was a modified version of what was being used in France. I have to admit the nose and chin are very similar, but I think the ultimate "tell" is the lips (which are both really unusual and nearly identical on the two coins). If anyone knows anything more or anything different please post!

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  • I think that twelve of these would make a very, very nice calendar. image
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