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jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭✭✭
A few years ago I had the luck of getting a 1911-D, and sent it in for grading. It was the pcgs coin facts picture for awhile, but has since been replaced by a higher grade. After comparing the other coins, I believe mine has better details on the shoulder and headdress then some graded higher. Do you think it has a shot at upgrading? It is the last one, the XF45. Thanks!
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  • giorgio11giorgio11 Posts: 3,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A more basic question is why would anyone buy a Weak D example of the 1911-D? But your coin is nice in other respects.



    Best Regards,



    George
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think that I would leave it alone. If the color is accurate in the photo, that piece does not have the type of color that people are looking for today. I will also comment that the "weak D" does have a significant effect upon the market value of the piece.
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  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: giorgio11
    A more basic question is why would anyone buy a Weak D example of the 1911-D? But your coin is nice in other respects.

    Best Regards,

    George


    Because I bought it as a plain 1911 image paid about $240 for it.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,559 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: jwitten

    Originally posted by: giorgio11

    A more basic question is why would anyone buy a Weak D example of the 1911-D? But your coin is nice in other respects.



    Best Regards,



    George




    Because I bought it as a plain 1911 image paid about $240 for it.




    That works.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,477 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: giorgio11
    A more basic question is why would anyone buy a Weak D example of the 1911-D? But your coin is nice in other respects.

    Best Regards,

    George

    To have and to hold, in short.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Your coin appears to be properly graded. You can always try for a regrade, or crack it and send

    it in raw.... a gamble either way.... Cheers, RickO
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: ricko
    Your coin appears to be properly graded. You can always try for a regrade, or crack it and send
    it in raw.... a gamble either way.... Cheers, RickO


    The crack out and send in raw option could be a gamble. This flunked years ago for "improper cleaning." Its sins are far less than some of the pieces I've seen in holders.


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    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • msch1manmsch1man Posts: 809 ✭✭✭✭
    As others have said, I'd leave it as is...the upside for a bump to AU50 doesn't seem worth the risk/expense.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,509 ✭✭✭✭✭
    it can't hurt to try and you do have a chance. The coin won't change though image
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Barndog
    it can't hurt to try and you do have a chance. The coin won't change though image


    The trouble is the market is weak for the "weak D" coins. I doubt that the additional grading points would make much difference even if he got them.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think it is as weak as some think, you just have to find the right buyer. I traded a 1911-D weak D graded NGC AU55 for about $3,000 worth of coins once, and have had offers on this one for $1,500+. Not bad for under $300 investment.
  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,759 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks like an AU to me.

    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: jwitten
    I don't think it is as weak as some think, you just have to find the right buyer. I traded a 1911-D weak D graded NGC AU55 for about $3,000 worth of coins once, and have had offers on this one for $1,500+. Not bad for under $300 investment.


    If you have had those kinds of offers for a 1911-D quarter eagle with the weak D, I'd take the money and run. I've seen numbers as low as $450 for those coins. There are enough "investment experts" out there, who don't like those coins, to really hurt the market for them.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,559 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: msch1man

    As others have said, I'd leave it as is...the upside for a bump to AU50 doesn't seem worth the risk/expense.




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  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: BillJones
    Originally posted by: jwitten
    I don't think it is as weak as some think, you just have to find the right buyer. I traded a 1911-D weak D graded NGC AU55 for about $3,000 worth of coins once, and have had offers on this one for $1,500+. Not bad for under $300 investment.


    If you have had those kinds of offers for a 1911-D quarter eagle with the weak D, I'd take the money and run. I've seen numbers as low as $450 for those coins. There are enough "investment experts" out there, who don't like those coins, to really hurt the market for them.



    Whoever has these for sell at that price, I will take them all (seriously!). Here are the LOWEST sales prices on ebay for weak d coins.. "Au details cleaned, $918", "Au details cleaned, $1,461", "Au details cleaned, $1,599", $AU55, $1,800"

    Cheapest buy it now price for a weak D is XF details tooled for $1,567. No way would I take less than $1,500 for either (I have 2 xf45 currently).
  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Please let me know if you EVER find these for under $700, even damaged. Also, can you show me some sales in the $450 range? I want to add that seller to my watched list.
  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: BillJones
    Originally posted by: jwitten
    I don't think it is as weak as some think, you just have to find the right buyer. I traded a 1911-D weak D graded NGC AU55 for about $3,000 worth of coins once, and have had offers on this one for $1,500+. Not bad for under $300 investment.


    If you have had those kinds of offers for a 1911-D quarter eagle with the weak D, I'd take the money and run. I've seen numbers as low as $450 for those coins. There are enough "investment experts" out there, who don't like those coins, to really hurt the market for them.




    Can you show me a few examples that have sold in that range?
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: jwitten
    Originally posted by: BillJones
    Originally posted by: jwitten
    I don't think it is as weak as some think, you just have to find the right buyer. I traded a 1911-D weak D graded NGC AU55 for about $3,000 worth of coins once, and have had offers on this one for $1,500+. Not bad for under $300 investment.


    If you have had those kinds of offers for a 1911-D quarter eagle with the weak D, I'd take the money and run. I've seen numbers as low as $450 for those coins. There are enough "investment experts" out there, who don't like those coins, to really hurt the market for them.




    Can you show me a few examples that have sold in that range?


    Okay, I'll admit that I have not been in the market for these pieces for a long time. But the 1911-D quarter eagles with the weak or missing "D" have not been popular items with most collectors. When I was dealer selling them was very difficult. I guess the market for these coins has continued to go up and up despite the fact that it seems like the market for everything else has been pretty darn slow. I know I'd rather have lower grade than buy a 1911-D in AU with the weak "D." The coin does nothing for me.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I will agree they do not sell for what the strong D does, but they are sill very hot. Hardly can ever find one for under a grand (only one on ebay has sold for under that recently), and if you have a straight grade on one, it is an easy $1,500+

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