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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,477 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What?!?!? Reminds me of that Harry Potter dude. I don't think that could be positioned any more perfectly if it was done intentionally.
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  • CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What's the reverse look like?
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    That's off the charts. Great coin
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AWESOME!!! image



    Stop being a tease, show the reverse! image
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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,900 ✭✭✭✭✭




    N R A



    Nice random Alignment !
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Out of the hundreds or thousands of these double denomination dime/cents out there, this may be the most eye-catching.
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,045 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow that's fantastic!
  • 2ltdjorn2ltdjorn Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice
    WTB... errors, New Orleans gold, and circulated 20th key date coins!
  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is a spectacular error!
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,475 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet as … image
  • Originally posted by: SeattleSlammer
    Wow that's fantastic!


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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Super eye appealing error!

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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Way Cool man!
  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    SWEET and image

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    how is an error like that created?
  • robecrobec Posts: 6,804 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Boosibri

    how is an error like that created?




    Intentionally.
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: robec
    Originally posted by: Boosibri
    how is an error like that created?


    Intentionally.



    100% Incorrect .....
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Guys .... Eye appeal is the most important aspect of coin collecting to me as I am an artist. I look at each piece as "art"
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: keyman64
    AWESOME!!! image

    Stop being a tease, show the reverse! image


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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's about time! The reverse is very cool as well. image

    What does it grade? I am guessing this is for your personal collection?
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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,477 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those are two different holders; the obverse is obviously a NGC (four white prong) holder. The reverse looks like ANACS, solid clear gasket.



    Two different coins too 1996 and 2000.



    Maybe two different mints (OP) a Philly, the reverse is Denver



    The old switcheroo?
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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: oih82w8
    Those are two different holders; the obverse is obviously a NGC (four white prong) holder. The reverse looks like ANACS, solid clear gasket.

    Two different coins too 1996 and 2000.

    Maybe two different mints (OP) a Philly, the reverse is Denver

    The old switcheroo?


    LOL

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: keyman64
    It's about time! The reverse is very cool as well. image
    What does it grade? I am guessing this is for your personal collection?


    Which One? Honestly it doesn't really matter with these as I look for placement of the strikes which is way more important.








    I bought this to resell but have since changed my mind as it is super nice and is my daughter's birth year. I guess she just inherited another $1000 plus ...
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Double Denominations occur the same way that

    Off Metals/Wrong Planchets occur.



    The Mints use (or used to use) very large Tote Bins

    that would hold many many thousands of planchets.

    These bins have a 'trap door' at the bottom.



    Let's use Clad Cents and Cents on Struck Dimes for examples:



    A Bin filled with Dime Planchets is moved to the Dime Press area.

    It's either lifted, or positioned, for the trap door to open, and the

    planchet feed their way down, eventually being fed, one by one,

    by Feeder Fingers, into the coining chamber with two dies and a collar.



    When the bin is emptied, sometimes a planchet can get stuck in a corner,

    or in the 'trap door' area - and then that bid is moved to the area where

    empty bins are stored. Two days, two weeks, or two months later,

    that same bin is now pulled out of the area, and filled with Cent planchets,

    and the process goes on as described above.



    That planchet would fall into the Cent Press area, along with the thousands

    of cent planchets, and then get struck as a Cent on a Dime Planchet, or

    "Clad Cent" as we like to say.



    Those bins were also used for the just-struck coins to go into - and if the

    bin is emptied of struck dimes, and one or two struck dimes get stuck in

    the bin (as described above), and then eventually get filled again with cent

    planchets, that struck dime will fall into the Cent Press, and get struck again

    as a Cent - or a Double Denomination - A Cent struck on a previously struck

    Dime - or an "Eleven Cent Piece", as they're called.



    Some Wrong Planchet and Double Denomination errors are rarer than others -

    and some show more detail of the original strike than others...........



    Hope this helps a bit in understanding them. They are not intentional errors.



    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • robecrobec Posts: 6,804 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: FredWeinberg

    Double Denominations occur the same way that

    Off Metals/Wrong Planchets occur.



    The Mints use (or used to use) very large Tote Bins

    that would hold many many thousands of planchets.

    These bins have a 'trap door' at the bottom.



    Let's use Clad Cents and Cents on Struck Dimes for examples:



    A Bin filled with Dime Planchets is moved to the Dime Press area.

    It's either lifted, or positioned, for the trap door to open, and the

    planchet feed their way down, eventually being fed, one by one,

    by Feeder Fingers, into the coining chamber with two dies and a collar.



    When the bin is emptied, sometimes a planchet can get stuck in a corner,

    or in the 'trap door' area - and then that bid is moved to the area where

    empty bins are stored. Two days, two weeks, or two months later,

    that same bin is now pulled out of the area, and filled with Cent planchets,

    and the process goes on as described above.



    That planchet would fall into the Cent Press area, along with the thousands

    of cent planchets, and then get struck as a Cent on a Dime Planchet, or

    "Clad Cent" as we like to say.



    Those bins were also used for the just-struck coins to go into - and if the

    bin is emptied of struck dimes, and one or two struck dimes get stuck in

    the bin (as described above), and then eventually get filled again with cent

    planchets, that struck dime will fall into the Cent Press, and get struck again

    as a Cent - or a Double Denomination - A Cent struck on a previously struck

    Dime - or an "Eleven Cent Piece", as they're called.



    Some Wrong Planchet and Double Denomination errors are rarer than others -

    and some show more detail of the original strike than others...........



    Hope this helps a bit in understanding them. They are not intentional errors.







    Thank you for your description. I understand how this could happen unintentionally much better.image



  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Really nice error coin....and thanks for the explanation Fred....interesting. Cheers, RickO



  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,477 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's how I heard it as well...with the 1943 Copper and 44 Steel Cents...planchets stuck in the hoppa.
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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you Fred for your patience in explaining how ever cool major error coins is not done on purpose by some evil government employee.....

    Here is the reverse of the 1996 .... I love the double "AMERICA"







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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I classify errors in three general categories:



    1. Those made in error normally, as part of the Minting Process,

    and were released normally too - in Mint Sewn Bags, rolls, etc.



    This includes, sometimes, some dramatic error coins that others

    might think/assume were done intentionally, but weren't.



    2. Those made in error normally, as part of the Minting Process,

    and shouldn't have been released in Bags - such as Multi-coin

    clusters, Bonded Die Caps, coins on Feeder Fingers, and many others.



    They were made in error by the normally manufacturing process, but

    might be too big, too large in diameter, too many pieces, etc. to be

    thought of as coming out of a bag or (especially) a roll.



    3. Those made intentionally/on purpose, and taken out of the Mint.



    There are numerous examples of this category on the market,

    such as the Sac. $1's and New Hampshire 25C's that were fed into

    the Cent press and struck - so there's a full Lincoln Cent design in

    the Middle of both sides of a Sac Dollar or New Hamp. Quarter.

    Nails are in this category, imo, even though Tom's (the Capt.) explanation

    could be the reason. (I strongly believe that both the Cent Nails from

    1977, and the Dime Nails from 2000, were done on purpose, as well as

    the New Hampshire (I think) Quarter on a Nail.



    And, as I've stated before, In General, with some exceptions, the Mint and

    SS and Mint Police are more interested in plugging a leak at any Mint more

    than seizing coins like those in #3, as long as the leak is plugged, and no

    coins/errors are currently being taken from the Mint. (this comes from many

    decades of dealing with the SS/Mint, etc., and having numerous direct

    conversations with the (now retired) Chief Mint Police - the gentleman who

    was in charge of Security for ALL the US Mints, Depositories (including

    Fort Knox), and more.....





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  • Nice double-denomination--I like the orientation!
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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is the obverse from the 2000, I picked this one for it's awesome eye appeal as well, with the "Torch Head"







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