SH's FUN Report
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I am going to do this in bullet fashion. It was an intense 3 days meeting people, searching out NEWPs and learning about coins. There is just too much going on at a show and y'all would be very bored if I wrote down a complete blow by blow. Bottom line, go to a show to meet people and talk about coins and to see coins. Always results in strong increases in numismatic knowledge.
Some NEWP images will follow below the bullets.
Tampa - the Convention Center was great, right on the water, clean and roomy. Nice restaurants nearby. Two convention hotels right there and a relaxing walk 3 minute walk to the bourse. They have a Riverwalk that goes right by the venue. Lots of folks walking, cycling, jogging, sitting, segwaying along the walkway. The RW goes into the city center, to the Amalie Center just a couple blocks away, and to the aquarium. I was able to walk along it from the hotel. Gave an air of active vibrance to the area.
Interactions with great people highlights:
1. Shared a cab from the airport with MrEureka. Was great to meet you Andy and discuss coins on the way to the convention center. He handed me a token promoting his buisness. I was going to image and post it here, but I unknowingly handed it to the parking lot shuttle driver along with several quarters as part of a tip when dropped off at my car upon return yesterday.
2. Shared an elevator ride with Cliff Mishler. We discussed his famous early morning walks at coin shows. There is a sense of calm about Cliff that leaves one feeling in a great mood after being in his presence. Great way to start a morning off before entering the bourse.
3. At one of my visits to the PCGS table, I was nicely greeted by Don Willis and asked if he could help me. Well, I explained I had come back to retrieve the paper work for one of my submissions - in my panic of filling out the submission form earlier in the day I had listed my Collectors Society member number instead of my PCGS member number and wanted to correct it. Don burst out in laughter when he heard that. It was all rectified. Thanks PCGS!
4. Many knowledgeable dealers. In between wheeling and dealing, I was able to have alot of face time with many great dealers on alot of different numismatic topics. Everything from value, to grading, to collecting was discussed.
5. Many knowledgeable collectors. In combination with talking to dealers and collectors, about half my time in an 8 hour bourse day was discussing numismatics. This is a key reason to come to coin shows to interact with people in the buisness and learn.
6. Going to restaurants with folks at the show in the evenings. Had some great times in the evenings. Thanks go out to the folks I hung out with those evenings.
Searching out coins. I listed abound 10 dealer tables on the front of my FUN Show program guide so I would not have to thumb through to find their tables (guide was many many pages). They became the beacons on the bourse and many I went back to again and again to see if anything new came up. I had a plan the first morning. I was able to get some coins I had seen online, and sell of the 7 or so I had brought for that purpose, including a 6 for 1 trade to one dealer (and some added cash by me). The search for coins started Thursday am and ended around 10 am Saturday morning. I found some nice examples, some shown below. There is nothing better than viewing in hand and the FUN show is one of my few (if only) opportunities to do so each year.
PCGS luncheon. We got a great sample slab everyone else has reported. Key moment was when Don Willis announced the COINFACTS will soon be accessed for free! Thanks PCGS!
Ringling Brothers circus at the Amalie Center. My hotel room window faced the Amalie center and was just above where they were housing the animals. Each morning and evening I got to see the 6 elephants hanging out and a wide range of circus animals being moved back and forth from the pens into the center. Couldn't ask for a better view!
Best of show for exhibitions. Bill Jones had an exhibit with his Dahlonega gold type set. One word. Wow! All of the coins were high end for the grade and drop dead eye appealing. Bill had a very well thought out exhibit surrounding the type set with alot of historical information in the exhibit. Was a must see and I spent as much time as possible as breaks from the bourse inspecting his exhibit.
Club meetings. Went to several. In addition to discussing club buisness, each had a numismatic presentation where I was able to learn alot.
Heritage auction. Was able to spend many hours lot viewing. Truly beneficial. Bid on alot of coins. Was outbid on alot of coins. Might win something today....... Thanks Heritage!
On to some NEWPs
Here is my first HTT token in a couple years. I have been searching for this token, the HT-24 since I lost a gorgeous one in a HA auction on Feb. 14, 2008. To this day, when I log in at HA and go to the auction archives and select this HT-24 that was auctioned, it says:
Winning bid: $700 ($805.00 w/Buyer's Premium (BP) ).
Then: Your bid of $700 ($805.00 w/Buyer's Premium (BP) ) on this lot was outbid.
I remember on HA live when I hit the red button when that lot came up I got the green lettered 'You are Winning the lot' and then it closed so I was happy to have won it. Yet, following the auction it said I did not win despite my bid being the highest. So something happened in their system back then, alas. I called Heritage but there was no real explanation except for a glitch in the system so not much anyone could do. I don't think it happens now as their online auction system is excellent. It was a great HT-24 which are hard to get great and I have been searching ever since. My second stop on Thursday morning was to the very same dealer that had won that lot. He knew I collected HTT's and he said he had one to show me. AND. THERE. IT. WAS. Finally after 8 YEARS - A gorgeous HT-24. I simply told him 'that one is mine!!' and immediately bought it. This one, pictured below is a great example. The last time it was at auction that I am aware of was as a lot in the John J. Ford collection of HTT's offered by Stack's June 23, 2004. I have managed to acquire a handful of the Ford HTTs since that auction. Ford had 3 HT-24's, this one was easily the best one and closed at multiples of the other two in the Stacks auction. It has the typical baggy surfaces that all HT-24's have, some strike weakness if different areas, but hey, one is not going to find a better piece. Lots of red poking through, nice cartwheels under the light on each side - rich luster. There are 21 certified by NGC, none higher than AU58. Out of those 9 are AU58 and these are probably in part resubmissions. There are two certified by PCGS, this one and a 58. Here is the write up in the Stacks catalog for this one:
NEARLY CHOICE LOW 66
132 L.66, HT.24, DeW.CE 1838-18. Uncirculated, near Choice, with about 40% mint red still showing. Nice, light brown in color, the fields clear and the piece largely showing no signs of handling at all. The FRIEND TO THE CONSTITUTION issue with a cow on the reverse whose significance is unknown today. Rarely found so nice.
Ex Dr. A.C. Black on July 20, l959.
The above auction description sums it up. I agree with the uncirculated part given how the luster rotates through, and I would have graded it 61 or 62 when comparing grading of HTTs I have seen. Nevertheless a stunning token I am happy, estatic even, to finally own:
Here are some other newps I managed to acquire on the bourse:
The only NGC star Draped Bust Quarter in F15 and one of 8 total for that series:
Eye appeal is not done justice in this image:
Thanks for your patience and reading this!
Best, SH
Some NEWP images will follow below the bullets.
Tampa - the Convention Center was great, right on the water, clean and roomy. Nice restaurants nearby. Two convention hotels right there and a relaxing walk 3 minute walk to the bourse. They have a Riverwalk that goes right by the venue. Lots of folks walking, cycling, jogging, sitting, segwaying along the walkway. The RW goes into the city center, to the Amalie Center just a couple blocks away, and to the aquarium. I was able to walk along it from the hotel. Gave an air of active vibrance to the area.
Interactions with great people highlights:
1. Shared a cab from the airport with MrEureka. Was great to meet you Andy and discuss coins on the way to the convention center. He handed me a token promoting his buisness. I was going to image and post it here, but I unknowingly handed it to the parking lot shuttle driver along with several quarters as part of a tip when dropped off at my car upon return yesterday.
2. Shared an elevator ride with Cliff Mishler. We discussed his famous early morning walks at coin shows. There is a sense of calm about Cliff that leaves one feeling in a great mood after being in his presence. Great way to start a morning off before entering the bourse.
3. At one of my visits to the PCGS table, I was nicely greeted by Don Willis and asked if he could help me. Well, I explained I had come back to retrieve the paper work for one of my submissions - in my panic of filling out the submission form earlier in the day I had listed my Collectors Society member number instead of my PCGS member number and wanted to correct it. Don burst out in laughter when he heard that. It was all rectified. Thanks PCGS!
4. Many knowledgeable dealers. In between wheeling and dealing, I was able to have alot of face time with many great dealers on alot of different numismatic topics. Everything from value, to grading, to collecting was discussed.
5. Many knowledgeable collectors. In combination with talking to dealers and collectors, about half my time in an 8 hour bourse day was discussing numismatics. This is a key reason to come to coin shows to interact with people in the buisness and learn.
6. Going to restaurants with folks at the show in the evenings. Had some great times in the evenings. Thanks go out to the folks I hung out with those evenings.
Searching out coins. I listed abound 10 dealer tables on the front of my FUN Show program guide so I would not have to thumb through to find their tables (guide was many many pages). They became the beacons on the bourse and many I went back to again and again to see if anything new came up. I had a plan the first morning. I was able to get some coins I had seen online, and sell of the 7 or so I had brought for that purpose, including a 6 for 1 trade to one dealer (and some added cash by me). The search for coins started Thursday am and ended around 10 am Saturday morning. I found some nice examples, some shown below. There is nothing better than viewing in hand and the FUN show is one of my few (if only) opportunities to do so each year.
PCGS luncheon. We got a great sample slab everyone else has reported. Key moment was when Don Willis announced the COINFACTS will soon be accessed for free! Thanks PCGS!
Ringling Brothers circus at the Amalie Center. My hotel room window faced the Amalie center and was just above where they were housing the animals. Each morning and evening I got to see the 6 elephants hanging out and a wide range of circus animals being moved back and forth from the pens into the center. Couldn't ask for a better view!
Best of show for exhibitions. Bill Jones had an exhibit with his Dahlonega gold type set. One word. Wow! All of the coins were high end for the grade and drop dead eye appealing. Bill had a very well thought out exhibit surrounding the type set with alot of historical information in the exhibit. Was a must see and I spent as much time as possible as breaks from the bourse inspecting his exhibit.
Club meetings. Went to several. In addition to discussing club buisness, each had a numismatic presentation where I was able to learn alot.
Heritage auction. Was able to spend many hours lot viewing. Truly beneficial. Bid on alot of coins. Was outbid on alot of coins. Might win something today....... Thanks Heritage!
On to some NEWPs
Here is my first HTT token in a couple years. I have been searching for this token, the HT-24 since I lost a gorgeous one in a HA auction on Feb. 14, 2008. To this day, when I log in at HA and go to the auction archives and select this HT-24 that was auctioned, it says:
Winning bid: $700 ($805.00 w/Buyer's Premium (BP) ).
Then: Your bid of $700 ($805.00 w/Buyer's Premium (BP) ) on this lot was outbid.
I remember on HA live when I hit the red button when that lot came up I got the green lettered 'You are Winning the lot' and then it closed so I was happy to have won it. Yet, following the auction it said I did not win despite my bid being the highest. So something happened in their system back then, alas. I called Heritage but there was no real explanation except for a glitch in the system so not much anyone could do. I don't think it happens now as their online auction system is excellent. It was a great HT-24 which are hard to get great and I have been searching ever since. My second stop on Thursday morning was to the very same dealer that had won that lot. He knew I collected HTT's and he said he had one to show me. AND. THERE. IT. WAS. Finally after 8 YEARS - A gorgeous HT-24. I simply told him 'that one is mine!!' and immediately bought it. This one, pictured below is a great example. The last time it was at auction that I am aware of was as a lot in the John J. Ford collection of HTT's offered by Stack's June 23, 2004. I have managed to acquire a handful of the Ford HTTs since that auction. Ford had 3 HT-24's, this one was easily the best one and closed at multiples of the other two in the Stacks auction. It has the typical baggy surfaces that all HT-24's have, some strike weakness if different areas, but hey, one is not going to find a better piece. Lots of red poking through, nice cartwheels under the light on each side - rich luster. There are 21 certified by NGC, none higher than AU58. Out of those 9 are AU58 and these are probably in part resubmissions. There are two certified by PCGS, this one and a 58. Here is the write up in the Stacks catalog for this one:
NEARLY CHOICE LOW 66
132 L.66, HT.24, DeW.CE 1838-18. Uncirculated, near Choice, with about 40% mint red still showing. Nice, light brown in color, the fields clear and the piece largely showing no signs of handling at all. The FRIEND TO THE CONSTITUTION issue with a cow on the reverse whose significance is unknown today. Rarely found so nice.
Ex Dr. A.C. Black on July 20, l959.
The above auction description sums it up. I agree with the uncirculated part given how the luster rotates through, and I would have graded it 61 or 62 when comparing grading of HTTs I have seen. Nevertheless a stunning token I am happy, estatic even, to finally own:
Here are some other newps I managed to acquire on the bourse:
The only NGC star Draped Bust Quarter in F15 and one of 8 total for that series:
Eye appeal is not done justice in this image:
Thanks for your patience and reading this!
Best, SH
My online coin store - https://desertmoonnm.com/
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I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
Seeing circus elephants followed up by Bill Jones Dahlonega gold type set would certainly be a memorable day for me.
That's something that doesn't happen every day.
My 1866 Philly Mint Set
Best, SH
That isn't easy to do sometimes.
Excellent new purchases as well.
I really need to make the FUN show one day.
I see that HTT also made an appearance in the CRO road report
Thanks for the report, I really enjoyed reading it. Your newp's all look like winners to me, that HTT is great, I have always liked that design! Wish I could have been there to see Bill Jones' exhibit as I'm sure it was very educational.
I see that HTT also made an appearance in the CRO road report
Yes there is an 8 year connection between CRO and I on HT-24s........
Best, SH
I will miss that 1805 quarter. Well bought
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Great report! Excellent actually
I will miss that 1805 quarter. Well bought
mark
Thanks Mark for consigning it, I must have bought it very close to when you consigned it as the dealer told me he had just obtained it.
Best, SH
Proof Buffalo Registry Set
Capped Bust Quarters Registry Set
Proof Walking Liberty Halves Registry Set
I didn't know that the Dahlonega exhibit was Bill's! Very impressive.
Had a beer with MrEureka at the airport yesterday - he was too tired to offer me a token.
U.S. Type Set
Menomonee Falls Wisconsin USA
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistr...dset.aspx?s=68269&ac=1">Musky 1861 Mint Set
Great report! Excellent actually
I will miss that 1805 quarter. Well bought
mark
Thanks Mark for consigning it, I must have bought it very close to when you consigned it as the dealer told me he had just obtained it.
Best, SH
I knew it wouldn't last long. Glad you got it.
Congrats on all the NEWP's
M
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
Nice newps I've held that HT-24 in hand once at one of the CoinFest shows between 2008-10 when it was offered to me as a raw unc.
Broadie if you have more info about its pedigree I would love to learn it.
Best, SH
Nice newps I've held that HT-24 in hand once at one of the CoinFest shows between 2008-10 when it was offered to me as a raw unc.
Broadie if you have more info about its pedigree I would love to learn it.
Best, SH
I can tell you everything about it once I find what I wrote down about it right after I saw it? I have been documenting every HTT seen in hand or online in composition books since 2005. At shows I take detailed notes and then enter everything in my journals once home. I just need to find which year I actually saw it?
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I used to own this 1805 that looks almost a twin to yours. Here is my image of the coin:
Latin American Collection
Mike
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
Best, SH
Here is a late win in a seal bid auction on the floor.
Sunshine Rare Coins
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It was nice to see you and great newps!
Nice Meeting you too UHR and thanks!
Best, SH
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102 capped bust half dollars - 100 die marriages
BHNC #198
The 1820s coins seemed to have my number at FUN.
Best, SH
Below is one more I picked up at FUN. Funny, you can apparently by this very same coin on ebay right not but it is not from me nor the dealer I bought it from at FUN!
Link to this coin on ebay
- Jim
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