A Lonesome John

Broadstruck

Triple Struck 1940's First strike in collar, Second strike in collar with rotation and overlap, Third strike out of collar with rotation off center. I'm figuring it's a 1944 or 1945 Philly as there's a few errors for these years. Ex error specialist Lonesome John Devine.

keyman64

Cool one!

Broadstruck

Originally posted by: keyman64

Cool one!

Thanks you almost never see major Lincoln errors like this...



However back in the 1970's you'd read about them winning awards at events like Error Rama.



There's a lot wild mint errors from back then that just never re-entered the market.



Just out there somewhere needing to be rediscovered.

DUIGUY

MrEureka

Originally posted by: Broadstruck
I'm figuring it's a 1944 or 1945 Philly as there's a few errors for these years.

Think big. Try to match the dies to 1943. Focus on die polish lines and die cracks.

Broadstruck

Originally posted by: MrEureka

Originally posted by: Broadstruck

I'm figuring it's a 1944 or 1945 Philly as there's a few errors for these years.

Think big. Try to match the dies to 1943. Focus on die polish lines and die cracks.

Holy cow how cool would that be...



Thanks MrEureka as I now have a new research project!

AUandAG

That's is one awesome cent/cent/cent



bob

TopographicOceans

MFH

That's a great looking error - and for your sake - I hope Andy led you to a great find !

gonzer

I was fortunate enough to spend a lot of quality time with John and his wife Peg at their home and at John's shop in Newbury Park in the early 70's. At his shop, which was in an industrial complex (!), he would have coins like these scattered all over his desk amidst off-metals, double-dies, old Kleenex and photos, tons of photos. He was NOT the neatest shop owner around but he knew where everything was. He was way ahead of his time when it came to tutoring YN's and really had a true passion for the hobby. I would love to see some of his old catalogues if any are still out there.

ricko

Cool error cent Broadstruck... hope you can attribute the year...Cheers, RickO

lasvegasteddy

broadstruck posting a lincoln

who'd of thunk



crazy cool piece there

WildIdea

Looks like ErrorsOnCoins avatar

johnny9434

way cool.

duck620

"WOW"! I LIKE THOSE COINS.

Walkerfan

Very cool and unusual!

Broadstruck

Thanks everyone!

FredWeinberg

I was pretty close with Lonesome and Peggy,
because they only lived about 20 minutes from
me, here in the SF Valley.

In addition to his error coin business, John had
a printing company (Hi-Ho Printing, I think it's spelled)
printed his catalogs.

Met him at the first EAR in 1967 in Hollywood, and
we both did a large amount of business with each other.

While I was at Numismatics, Ltd., in the '70's and '80's,
John produced for me full size, glossy paper, Mint
Error catalogs with almost every coin photo'd and shown.

He did about 14-15 catalogs for me, and they alway brought
great sales results.

After he and Peggy retired, and spend their years driving
around the (mostly) Western US, he would come to my
office once a year or so when he was in LA, and we'd visit,
share stories, and have a nice relaxing day talking about
'the old days.

I miss him, and the error coin hobby owes him a great deal.

OriginalDan

So did you figure out the date?

silverpop

CaptHenway

Only met his a few times, but always a nice guy.

MWallace

I met him in person only once, but talked with him on the phone many times. John was one of the good ones.

EXOJUNKIE

I have some errors pedigreed to Lonesome John, still with their "Lonesome John" flip inserts -- most of them came via Fred!

EXOJUNKIE

By the way....

Good to see you @Broadstruck!

BLUEJAYWAY

@EXOJUNKIE said:
I have some errors pedigreed to Lonesome John, still with their "Lonesome John" flip inserts -- most of them came via Fred!

This reminds me. Somewhere packed away I may have 1 or 2 errors denoted with the LJ pedigree. Both from an auction IIRC.

giantsfan20

He also made a clear see through plastic that you placed over the coin with lines showing different percentages to measure off center and clipped coins.

thebeav

I remember his advertising. Being fairly young in the 70's, errors really appealed to me. I had never met John however.

Broadstruck

I have quite a few of John's books and catalogs in storage which I'll try to dig out this winter.

gonzer

John used to use a special proprietary solution to instantly clean coins. Unremarkable back when he'd do it in front of you but in this day and age I often wonder what it was. Copper was the usual subject. Sometimes a bizarre coloring effect was the result months after the cleaning.

ricko

@Broadstruck .... Did you ever determine a date for the OP coin?? Cheers, RickO

Broadstruck

No I haven't gotten to it yet as it's on a long list of things to do.... I've owned this piece for 15 years, so what's another or two?

BLUEJAYWAY

@thebeav said:
I remember his advertising. Being fairly young in the 70's, errors really appealed to me. I had never met John however.

I do as well, his advertising. Especially in ETCM (Error Trends Coin Magazine, a monthly mag. devoted to errors by Arnold Margolis).