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A Lonesome John

BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Triple Struck 1940's First strike in collar, Second strike in collar with rotation and overlap, Third strike out of collar with rotation off center. I'm figuring it's a 1944 or 1945 Philly as there's a few errors for these years. Ex error specialist Lonesome John Devine.



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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,534 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool one!
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners. :smile:
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: keyman64

    Cool one!




    Thanks you almost never see major Lincoln errors like this...



    However back in the 1970's you'd read about them winning awards at events like Error Rama.



    There's a lot wild mint errors from back then that just never re-entered the market.



    Just out there somewhere needing to be rediscovered.



    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
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    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."



    - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Broadstruck
    I'm figuring it's a 1944 or 1945 Philly as there's a few errors for these years.


    Think big. Try to match the dies to 1943. Focus on die polish lines and die cracks.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: MrEureka

    Originally posted by: Broadstruck

    I'm figuring it's a 1944 or 1945 Philly as there's a few errors for these years.



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    Think big. Try to match the dies to 1943. Focus on die polish lines and die cracks.







    Holy cow how cool would that be...



    Thanks MrEureka as I now have a new research project! image



    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's is one awesome cent/cent/cent



    bobimage
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    That's a great looking error - and for your sake - I hope Andy led you to a great find !
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

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  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was fortunate enough to spend a lot of quality time with John and his wife Peg at their home and at John's shop in Newbury Park in the early 70's. At his shop, which was in an industrial complex (!), he would have coins like these scattered all over his desk amidst off-metals, double-dies, old Kleenex and photos, tons of photos. He was NOT the neatest shop owner around but he knew where everything was. He was way ahead of his time when it came to tutoring YN's and really had a true passion for the hobby. I would love to see some of his old catalogues if any are still out there.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool error cent Broadstruck... hope you can attribute the year...Cheers, RickO
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,432 ✭✭✭
    broadstruck posting a lincoln

    who'd of thunk



    crazy cool piece there
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • WildIdeaWildIdea Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like ErrorsOnCoins avatar
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,226 ✭✭✭✭✭
    way cool.
  • duck620duck620 Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭✭
    "WOW"! I LIKE THOSE COINS.
  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool and unusual!

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks everyone! :)

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So did you figure out the date?

  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,741 ✭✭✭✭✭

    B)

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/rDADi6mhVjYedUEh7

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/5q2J4K72kjrigRih9

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Only met his a few times, but always a nice guy.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I met him in person only once, but talked with him on the phone many times. John was one of the good ones.

    http://www.SmallDollars.com
  • EXOJUNKIEEXOJUNKIE Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have some errors pedigreed to Lonesome John, still with their "Lonesome John" flip inserts -- most of them came via Fred! :)

    I'm addicted to exonumia ... it is numismatic crack!

    ANA LM

    USAF Retired — 34 years of active military service! 🇺🇸
  • EXOJUNKIEEXOJUNKIE Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    By the way....

    Good to see you @Broadstruck! :p

    I'm addicted to exonumia ... it is numismatic crack!

    ANA LM

    USAF Retired — 34 years of active military service! 🇺🇸
  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @EXOJUNKIE said:
    I have some errors pedigreed to Lonesome John, still with their "Lonesome John" flip inserts -- most of them came via Fred! :)

    This reminds me. Somewhere packed away I may have 1 or 2 errors denoted with the LJ pedigree. Both from an auction IIRC.

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • giantsfan20giantsfan20 Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭✭

    He also made a clear see through plastic that you placed over the coin with lines showing different percentages to measure off center and clipped coins.

  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I remember his advertising. Being fairly young in the 70's, errors really appealed to me. I had never met John however.

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have quite a few of John's books and catalogs in storage which I'll try to dig out this winter.

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    John used to use a special proprietary solution to instantly clean coins. Unremarkable back when he'd do it in front of you but in this day and age I often wonder what it was. Copper was the usual subject. Sometimes a bizarre coloring effect was the result months after the cleaning.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Broadstruck .... Did you ever determine a date for the OP coin?? Cheers, RickO

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No I haven't gotten to it yet as it's on a long list of things to do.... I've owned this piece for 15 years, so what's another or two?

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thebeav said:
    I remember his advertising. Being fairly young in the 70's, errors really appealed to me. I had never met John however.

    I do as well, his advertising. Especially in ETCM (Error Trends Coin Magazine, a monthly mag. devoted to errors by Arnold Margolis).

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".

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