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ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can't grade them either!



    Congrats on the Cherrypicks and new Top Pop!
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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have heard too many times that AU58 could go MS62 and vice-versa on just about any day.



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    RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats... and Sorry.

    If your note to self is serious, see if Bill Fivaz still teaches at ANA seminars. I took advanced grading several years ago and Bill handled a couple of special sessions including grading Buffs. One of best lessons ever.
    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
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    luckybucksluckybucks Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭
    AU58 my left eye !!!



    From that scan, that looks like a Ch BU all day long.



    Do you have other scans ?
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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: luckybucks

    AU58 my left eye !!!



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    BrolBrol Posts: 266 ✭✭
    One little rub and you have AU58 instead of 64. I know. I had $10 au58 obverse and 65 reverse.
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    DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Within the last year I cracked out a PCGS MS 62 (full of color) and shipped it to NGC for a star. It came back AU 58 + with no star.



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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am thankful that we have this thread to help.

    Things are so much clearer now. image
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    I say MS also but as stated they are very picky on this series. Also does your coin have a light broad clip right at the buffalos tail?
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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,250 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Manorcourtman
    Originally posted by: luckybucks
    AU58 my left eye !!!

    From that scan, that looks like a Ch BU all day long.

    Do you have other scans ?


    I can deal with a 58 but truly feel it was a CH BU coin!! It's going to CAC for an opinion!! Here's a couple more:

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    If ya look real close you can see just a bit of rub on the hipbone and flank. I agree sometime, when ya come across a weakly struck buff this area will also be a bit flat. This is where ya gotta tilt the coin to and fro and look for rub or a break in the luster. Buffs are very tough to grade.
    Congrats on a beautiful Buff at any grade.

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    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: keyman64
    I can't grade them either!

    Congrats on the Cherrypicks and new Top Pop!

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    winkywinky Posts: 1,671
    I'm afraid to try as I might give the AU58 an MS64. I know you would like that if I worked at PCGS.
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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's an outstanding coin regardless of the grade!
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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those would great for the "every man" collection...or any collection for that matter!
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    hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Buffaloes are the pound for pound champion of the numismatic grading tough man competition image
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    ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Buffs are tuff to grade...I have trouble telling weak strike from minor wear also. That buff grading class sounds like it would be beneficial for me! It is one of my favorite series as the classic design is pure mid century americana IMO. BTW I would have thought those coins were MS...nice pickups regardless and thanks for posting!



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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The reverse betrayed you. There is rub back there, and the AU-58 grade is brutally honest.


    When you are looking for a top POP item, don't expect any gifts.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations on the top pop..... and I agree, Buffs are a tough coin to grade.

    Makes it fun though...Cheers, RickO
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    leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,567 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Christos
    I say MS also but as stated they are very picky on this series. Also does your coin have a light broad clip right at the buffalos tail?


    I have to agree, just what is happening with the rim/edge near the tail?

    PICKY? No argument there. Before they started grading Jefferson nickels, I had high hopes PCGS would be as strict with the details of the Jefferson nickel as they did with Buffalo nickels. But now, we have scores of collectors with collections filled with defective, mushy coins. How a coin can sustain a MS67 grade while there are details completely missing in the strike..... Early on, I use to think there was a double standard taking place, but locating EDS (early die state) Jefferson nickels has proven to be a near impossible endeavor for many dates early in the series, for me anyway. I may have found one satisfying example of a date but locating a second coin with equal or better qualities.......well, I haven't been searching as much as I did in the early days. In fact, I have parted with a few coins..........what was the point of this post?

    Nice coin you have but there are likely some worn areas somewhere you're not seeing.



    Leo

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