Found one of my early Walker holy grails

ElmerFusterpuck · November 30, 2015 12:33PM

Took a little while, but here's a piece I can live with for my collection.

PCGS VF-30:

TomB · November 30, 2015 12:54PM

That looks like a really nice coin. Interestingly, there are at least two early WLHs that I have found significantly more difficult to find in this grade/eye appeal than this piece.

Meltdown · November 30, 2015 1:04PM

Nice surfaces on that sucker!

breakdown · November 30, 2015 1:45PM

Originally posted by: TomB
That looks like a really nice coin. Interestingly, there are at least two early WLHs that I have found significantly more difficult to find in this grade/eye appeal than this piece.

I am going to guess the 17-S obverse and 19-D, Tom. I also think the 19-S is underrated.

By the way, very nice example of the 21-S.

Boosibri · November 30, 2015 2:07PM

Very wholesome. Congrats

Walkerguy21D · November 30, 2015 9:39PM

Very nice example there, Erik, but a little surprised it was hard for you to find
at the VF-something level....I'm sure getting that 'look' was part of the reason.

True XF and AU 21-S walkers are very scarce, but below this technical grade level they are somewhat routine, and I see them more frequently than the 21P and D walkers. <Edited to add, I feel the 16S, 17S Obv, and 19D are also tougher in the VF grade range, with 17D Rev and 19S being somewhat comparable to the 21S.

bolivarshagnasty · November 30, 2015 9:58PM

Very nice example EF!

DennisH · November 30, 2015 10:02PM

Love that look!

ricko · November 30, 2015 10:04PM

That is a very nice WLH.... great eye appeal.... Cheers, RickO

Broadstruck · November 30, 2015 10:10PM

Originally posted by: TomB

That looks like a really nice coin. Interestingly, there are at least two early WLHs that I have found significantly more difficult to find in this grade/eye appeal than this piece.

I'll guess the 2 are the 20-D & 23-S?

golden · November 30, 2015 10:24PM

Nice pickup.

ElmerFusterpuck · November 30, 2015 10:31PM

Thanks for the props! Walkerguy21D, you are correct on seeing the 21-S a bit more often in VF than the other 21's. I kept running into VF-20's the most often, with the occasional 25 now and then. A few had the look I liked, but were way overpriced. This is the first decent 30 I've run across in a bit, and the 35's I've seen have been nice, but much pricier since it really starts to jump in that grade.

TomB, I was wondering if the 16-S was one of the dates you were referring to, along with the 20-D? I've seen too many borderline blast white VF and XF examples for those 2 dates, ones I would always p***** on.

Meanwhile, here is my early Walker collection, slowly getting closer to completion:

My early Walkers

TomB · November 30, 2015 10:39PM

I'd just like to clear up my post a bit to mention that I meant no disrespect whatsoever to EFP. Additionally, none was directed at the coin in the OP either for its grade, its look or its difficulty. Truly, it is a wonderful piece. The 1921-S WLH has a reputation, even in non-WLH circles, of being very difficult in true VF and higher. This reason, in combination with my own observation at recent shows that the 1921-S has become a bit easier to find, led me to make the comment that it was interesting that this piece was that difficult for you to find, yet has appeared on the bourse a bit more frequently as of late.

Flatwoods · November 30, 2015 10:47PM

Super looking Walker.

Walkerguy21D · November 30, 2015 10:56PM

Here would be my estimate of the five scarcest early walkers in VF, in approximate order:
21D, 21P, 17S Obv, 16S, and 19D
In XF there are changes: 21S, 21D, 21P, 20D, 19D/17S Obv.
In AU, it would look like this: 21S, 20D, 23S, 21D, 19D/19S

lordmarcovan · November 30, 2015 11:01PM

Nice no-distractions piece.

I preferred my circs with a little more black-and-white contrast (you know the look I mean), but there is certainly nothing wrong with that one!

Treashunt · November 30, 2015 11:07PM

Congrats, nice addition

Broadstruck · November 30, 2015 11:08PM

Originally posted by: Walkerguy21D

Here would be my estimate of the five scarcest early walkers in VF, in approximate order:

21D, 21P, 17S Obv, 16S, and 19D

In XF there are changes: 21S, 21D, 21P, 20D, 19D/17S Obv.

In AU, it would look like this: 21S, 20D, 23S, 21D, 19D/19S

Thanks Walkerguy21D as that's good info to know.

I've never chased any WLH's below AU50.

Walkerguy21D · November 30, 2015 11:22PM

Thanks Walkerguy21D as that's good info to know.

Just my opinion, based on a few years of observation

though my focus the past few years has been on copper, and
I haven't kept up with pop reports, auction appearances, etc.
Hopefully Supertooth will join the discussion shortly, and you can get an expert opinion.

metalmeister · November 30, 2015 11:25PM

That's a tough one in higher grades. Nice WLH!

etexmike · December 1, 2015 12:29AM

Nice circ example of a tough date Walker.

Mike

BIGAL2749 · December 1, 2015 12:42AM

Very nice wholesome coin.

Congratulations

asheland · December 1, 2015 1:24AM

Very nice indeed!

BAJJERFAN · December 1, 2015 1:34AM

Originally posted by: lordmarcovan

Nice no-distractions piece.

I preferred my circs with a little more black-and-white contrast (you know the look I mean), but there is certainly nothing wrong with that one!

Like this one? The obverse is great, but the reverse is a non-match appearance-wise.

There is a real nice looker on eBay, but he wants WAY too much $$$ for it.

23-S on ebay

BAJJERFAN · December 1, 2015 2:02AM

Originally posted by: Broadstruck

Originally posted by: TomB

That looks like a really nice coin. Interestingly, there are at least two early WLHs that I have found significantly more difficult to find in this grade/eye appeal than this piece.

I'll guess the 2 are the 20-D & 23-S?

I think the 20-D and 19-S & D are hardest to find nice in vf30 or 35.

A surprisingly tough one with good/great eye appeal is the 17-S rev in 30/35/40, even tho it's common and low priced.

I snagged these 2 some time back and haven't seen much since.

guitarwes · December 1, 2015 2:13AM

Nice tougher date/grade! Congrats. These get pricey REAL quick in small grade bumps.

winky · December 1, 2015 2:15AM

Love the Walker.

291fifth · December 1, 2015 2:30AM

This is the kind of coin that collectors should insist on. It is original, evenly struck, has excellent eye-appeal and no problems. Nice coin!

BAJJERFAN · December 1, 2015 3:02AM

That's a very nice 21-s.

Of the three 1921s, the D is probably the hardest get in vf30/xf.

A little more grunge and black/white contrast would be nice, but one can't have everything.

2ltdjorn · December 1, 2015 3:40AM

Nice coin. I think that would be a fun set to build

Walkerguy21D · December 1, 2015 3:58AM

Awesome 21D, BAJJERFAN....I don't recall seeing you post that one previously.

BAJJERFAN · December 1, 2015 5:34AM

Originally posted by: Walkerguy21D

Awesome 21D, BAJJERFAN....I don't recall seeing you post that one previously.

I probably have a time or three. Used to have this one, but like a fool I sold it.

BAJJERFAN · December 1, 2015 6:02AM

Originally posted by: 2ltdjorn

Nice coin. I think that would be a fun set to build

Even for a lot of the later dates, it's hard to find nice eye appealing examples. It seems that whenever a stash is sold as junk silver, the nicer ones get picked out. I wonder what a search of a $1000 bag of junk walkers would turn up these days.

BAJJERFAN · December 1, 2015 6:05AM

Originally posted by: FadeToBlack

Circ F-VF-XF early date walkers are awesome and make for a very nice if not impressive set if you get them matched up well. It's a long-term project for me, 6 holes left in my album but about 10-12 coins I'd like to upgrade.

An acquaintance gave me a couple of Whitman albums for Walkers so I've been trying to fill some of those holes. Even cracked out a few PCGS holdered coins for the cause. I never thought I'd admit to doing that.

Walkerguy21D · December 1, 2015 6:34AM

One of few raw decent, meaty 21D's I've ever found in the wild, picked up at a FUN show a few years back. I had two strong offers from dealers within 10 min of acquiring it:

I've had a number of midgrade 21S walkers, raw and slabbed.
I liked this one as the dealer priced it at Fine Bid....I later sold it to a forum member for his collection.

kaz · December 1, 2015 6:59AM

Beautiful 21-s, and a very nice set of vf-ef Walkers Erik!

supertooth · December 1, 2015 7:13AM

Hello Folks---- Thanks to Walkerguy21D for his kind thoughts.

Previous comments are pretty well right on. Don't think that it much matters once you get to say the VF25 to AU55 grades. Those early coins are simply TOUGH to come upon.

If I had to write a list in those grades, I'd likely say the 19D and the 20D----along with the 21D. Then, close behind, would be the 21 and the 23S---along with the 17S Obv.

Then, I'd go to the 21S and the 19S and the 19P---followed closely by the 16S coin.

But, I hasten to add that when you are looking for coins that haven't been fooled or tampered with---that adds ANOTHER degree of difficulty into the mix. Bob [supertooth]

Found one of my early Walker holy grails

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