that's a very conflicted decision on whether or not ya could get me in there and would depend on what day ya caught me on.
hazmat suit would be required either way.
if knowing there were a couple of 86 bb cases and possibility of mid-early 70s unopened and I just had to find them, then chances would be higher... i would probably still be stopping every 10 mins to ask myself "what the f am I doing?"
not knowing and having to sift thru all that while some elderly gentleman w/ a cane said "well, maybe check over here and ya might find something you're interested in", well.....
edit: looks like they documented it somewhat well and there's 2 videos i'd like to see...
1. the moment the check was written and the hoarder realized the stuff is gone. was he ok w/ it? did the money even matter...usually it doesn't mean a thing as it's mental and like giving away a child. even something as minuscule as a toilet paper roll has this effect.
2. the moment (reed?) ran across the score/bulk of what's worthy of a $350K check in those premises and the mental anguish he went thru to get to the "true find".
I wonder what kind of stuff they had to 86? Just think if there was a waterlogged 1976 baseball case or 1986 Fleer basketball case that had to be pitched. Maybe they should be sold at a discount so the rippers could have a field day. I realize they're much rarer but people still see value in the waterlogged 1955 wax nickel packs you see floating around (no pun intended) in the hobby.
<< <i>I wonder what kind of stuff they had to 86? Just think if there was a waterlogged 1976 baseball case or 1986 Fleer basketball case that had to be pitched. Maybe they should be sold at a discount so the rippers could have a field day. I realize they're much rarer but people still see value in the waterlogged 1955 wax nickel packs you see floating around (no pun intended) in the hobby. >>
<< <i>3 1982 Topps Traded factory set cases were in that hoard. So much for that drying up. >>
Plus an extra 140 loose sets, still sealed. So's that 420 sets about to hit the market. >>
I think that makes 440...either way a couple hundred of 100k+ available isn't going to change the market much (unless dead centered Ripkens come from a case breaker).
Steve just told me he hasn't had a factory sealed case of these since 2002, and I've never bought one - until now. These are 1982 Topps Traded Baseball Factory Set Cases - with the Cal Ripken Jr. Rookie XRC - 100 sets per case. However, we didn't just get one case - we landed three of them! I still can't believe one collection had three cases. The original Topps shipping labels are still on the outside of the case, with the seller's name and address of the house we bought these from. We've already sold one case from the first trip, so pictured here are the other two. The top flaps on both cases are sealed nice and tight, but the glue has gotten a bit loose on the bottom, though the staples are keeping the cases factory sealed - this is the reason we have them sitting upside down on the shelves. These are not on the website, but if anyone's interested in these, they are $20,000 per case. Not only did we get these three cases, but there were also an additional 140 sets in this deal! Plus, these were the factory tape sealed version, and none of the tape seals flaked off over the years. I recently read somewhere on a message board, where a poster claimed these cases had all but dried out and don't exist anymore, but that's what we do here at BBCE - we help re-introduce product back into the hobby.
Crazy that someone had all of that but I'm not interested..i remember when those tt sets came out and I bought one, haha...not 300!!! Hope there are some other interesting finds.
Any confirmed 1970s Topps baseball unopened cases?
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Also in the photos - a case of 85 Topps Traded, an 83T Traded Case, an 86T Traded, what looks like a couple cases of 85D Wax, a hockey I don't recognize and, well, a bunch of other stuff
Tim, check out the photos on fb if you can...looks like some 85 donruss and not sure what else...I'm wondering what the 350k entails...has to be something huge for the product and effort combined.
<< <i>1. the moment the check was written and the hoarder realized the stuff is gone. was he ok w/ it? did the money even matter...usually it doesn't mean a thing as it's mental and like giving away a child. even something as minuscule as a toilet paper roll has this effect. >>
Pure speculation based on the posts but it sounds like the original owner's family is selling this stuff on his behalf and that he's not living there. There was something mentioned about paying for "longterm care" for the owner so I would guess he's not living at the home anymore.
<< <i>About an hour ago someone asked this: "Any 70's product? Especially racks?" The answer was this: "Maybe...need to finish telling the story first" >>
That was me.
Heck of a find. Hopefully there will be some nice 1960's/70's material coming out of this hord.
Wow, I have a feeling there are going to be a few cases of late 70's racks. I just asked them if they are going to name this unopened find. There is too much to not call it one. Never mind that some of it is already sold.
I thought 4SC bought and cracked a number of 1982 Topps Traded cases a few years ago, leading to an explosion on the population of graded Ripkens in 8/9/10
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<< <i>I thought 4SC bought and cracked a number of 1982 Topps Traded cases a few years ago, leading to an explosion on the population of graded Ripkens in 8/9/10 >>
You are correct. There was a big number of 10's. 100+ if I recall.
<< <i>Wow, I have a feeling there are going to be a few cases of late 70's racks. I just asked them if they are going to name this unopened find. There is too much to not call it one. Never mind that some of it is already sold.
The Hoarder's Find? >>
That would be pretty cool but the 70s product is much tougher to find than the early 80s stuff we've been seeing thus far.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
The guy's collection spanned 1977-1994 and all finds seem to be 1979 on. There is an update post that talks of 79, 80 and 81 BB vending cases and a 80 vending case.
<< <i>Some of the items that were tossed - 1988 Fleer Glossy Baseball Set Cases, 1981 Fleer Baseball Wax Cases, 1982 Fleer Baseball Wax Cases, 1990 Score Baseball Factory Set Cases (good, because there are way too many of these in the world), 1981 Fleer Here's Bo! Wax Case....... >>
Back in the early 90s, I bought some stuff from Bob Balanda (advertised in SCD) who told me he was picking up stuff from an old guy in the same area as this buy.
Wonder if it's the same guy?
It hurts to read that they had to throw out tons of product due to water damage e.g.
There's more hoards like this out there,in fact more than people think.There's some former shop owners that got priced out and couldn't keep up with internet boom on cards that has stuff like this sitting in their non-leaky basements and loose floor boards attics.Eventually the kids take over or the owner passes and it pops up for auction or something like BBCE lucked into.Anyone with 6 figure+ cash to spend can find these if they put a lot of work into it.
I understand waterlogged cards wouldn't be worth anything but wouldn't some of you want to just have them for keep sake? Seems like a waste to throw them all away.
<< <i>There's more hoards like this out there,in fact more than people think.There's some former shop owners that got priced out and couldn't keep up with internet boom on cards that has stuff like this sitting in their non-leaky basements and loose floor boards attics.Eventually the kids take over or the owner passes and it pops up for auction or something like BBCE lucked into.Anyone with 6 figure+ cash to spend can find these if they put a lot of work into it. >>
I was fortunate enough to get to pick through a mini-hoard like you describe about three years ago. Fortunately the inventory was stored in a dry, CA home. A coin dealer bought a house that was owned by an ex-card shop owner. He had cards all over the place. It wasn't as huge as this BBCE find but had some great stuff in there. I bought high grade 1975, 1976 sets, a partial 1977 set, 6 boxes of 1979 baseball wax, 2+ boxes of 1980 baseball wax, two 1982 Topps baseball wax boxes, four 1971 baseball rack packs, several wax boxes of cards from the mid-1970s that were taken out of the wrapper and put back in the box undisturbed, several 1982-5 Donruss wax boxes and a bunch of other misc stuff. There was a lot more I should have bought like more 80s wax boxes I passed on (1981/83 Topps baseball). I was close to passing on the 1979 boxes but glad we came to an agreement at the last minute. That turned out to be a great buy in retrospect. As lucky as I was, I still think back on what I missed. He had already eBayed a 1971 rack with Rose showing on the back and several single 1979 packs as well as some high grade raw RCs and HOFers.
These finds are out there and we'll still see them from time-to-time though they'll probably be less frequent as time goes on.
<< <i> I was fortunate enough to get to pick through a mini-hoard like you describe about three years ago. Fortunately the inventory was stored in a dry, CA home. A coin dealer bought a house that was owned by an ex-card shop owner. He had cards all over the place. It wasn't as huge as this BBCE find but had some great stuff in there. I bought high grade 1975, 1976 sets, a partial 1977 set, 6 boxes of 1979 baseball wax, 2+ boxes of 1980 baseball wax, two 1982 Topps baseball wax boxes, four 1971 baseball rack packs, several wax boxes of cards from the mid-1970s that were taken out of the wrapper and put back in the box undisturbed, several 1982-5 Donruss wax boxes and a bunch of other misc stuff. There was a lot more I should have bought like more 80s wax boxes I passed on (1981/83 Topps baseball). I was close to passing on the 1979 boxes but glad we came to an agreement at the last minute. That turned out to be a great buy in retrospect. As lucky as I was, I still think back on what I missed. He had already eBayed a 1971 rack with Rose showing on the back and several single 1979 packs as well as some high grade raw RCs and HOFers.
These finds are out there and we'll still see them from time-to-time though they'll probably be less frequent as time goes on. >>
That's a pretty nice haul from what I'm starting to learn about older unopened.I personally know 2 guys,one just did card shows in the late 80's-early 90's and one that had a small store in the middle of nowhere,and they both have a nice inventory.I could buy them out,and probably will at some point,but I don't know if I want to lay down that kind of cash for more limited market items than what I usually deal in.I've ended up with some nice finds at auctions over the years and just had one at an auction earlier this week.Nothing like the unopened BBCE got,but some unopened,some other nice rookies and a nice Jordan collection full of 90's inserts.Less frequent,I agree,but still out there with the right amount of work.Again,that was a very nice haul,especially from a seller that did ebay.
There's definitely early 80s stuff still out there but even with this hoard I have yet to see any unopened wax, rack or cello boxes from the 70s, let alone cases. Pre-78 unopened product has definitely become tougher to find.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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<< <i>Looked online at pics. That is a Collectors dream home. Horder collecsts crap for 50 years and it all is waiting inside. >>
True but you have to sort through years of hotdog scraps and rat droppings to get to the good stuff.
hazmat suit would be required either way.
if knowing there were a couple of 86 bb cases and possibility of mid-early 70s unopened and I just had to find them, then chances would be higher...
i would probably still be stopping every 10 mins to ask myself "what the f am I doing?"
not knowing and having to sift thru all that while some elderly gentleman w/ a cane said "well, maybe check over here and ya might find something you're interested in", well.....
edit: looks like they documented it somewhat well and there's 2 videos i'd like to see...
1. the moment the check was written and the hoarder realized the stuff is gone. was he ok w/ it? did the money even matter...usually it doesn't mean a thing as it's mental and like giving away a child. even something as minuscule as a toilet paper roll has this effect.
2. the moment (reed?) ran across the score/bulk of what's worthy of a $350K check in those premises and the mental anguish he went thru to get to the "true find".
<< <i>3 1982 Topps Traded factory set cases were in that hoard. So much for that drying up. >>
Plus an extra 140 loose sets, still sealed. So's that 420 sets about to hit the market.
<< <i>I wonder what kind of stuff they had to 86? Just think if there was a waterlogged 1976 baseball case or 1986 Fleer basketball case that had to be pitched. Maybe they should be sold at a discount so the rippers could have a field day. I realize they're much rarer but people still see value in the waterlogged 1955 wax nickel packs you see floating around (no pun intended) in the hobby. >>
^^now, THAT could be fun!
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<< <i>3 1982 Topps Traded factory set cases were in that hoard. So much for that drying up. >>
Plus an extra 140 loose sets, still sealed. So's that 420 sets about to hit the market. >>
I think that makes 440...either way a couple hundred of 100k+ available isn't going to change the market much (unless dead centered Ripkens come from a case breaker).
<< <i>How do we know about the 82 TT sets? >>
BBCE facebook post
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<< <i>How do we know about the 82 TT sets? >>
BBCE facebook post >>
From Facebook:
Steve just told me he hasn't had a factory sealed case of these since 2002, and I've never bought one - until now. These are 1982 Topps Traded Baseball Factory Set Cases - with the Cal Ripken Jr. Rookie XRC - 100 sets per case. However, we didn't just get one case - we landed three of them! I still can't believe one collection had three cases. The original Topps shipping labels are still on the outside of the case, with the seller's name and address of the house we bought these from. We've already sold one case from the first trip, so pictured here are the other two. The top flaps on both cases are sealed nice and tight, but the glue has gotten a bit loose on the bottom, though the staples are keeping the cases factory sealed - this is the reason we have them sitting upside down on the shelves. These are not on the website, but if anyone's interested in these, they are $20,000 per case.
Not only did we get these three cases, but there were also an additional 140 sets in this deal! Plus, these were the factory tape sealed version, and none of the tape seals flaked off over the years. I recently read somewhere on a message board, where a poster claimed these cases had all but dried out and don't exist anymore, but that's what we do here at BBCE - we help re-introduce product back into the hobby.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>Any confirmed 1970s Topps baseball unopened cases? >>
Tim, check out the photos on fb if you can...looks like some 85 donruss and not sure what else...I'm wondering what the 350k entails...has to be something huge for the product and effort combined.
<< <i>1. the moment the check was written and the hoarder realized the stuff is gone. was he ok w/ it? did the money even matter...usually it doesn't mean a thing as it's mental and like giving away a child. even something as minuscule as a toilet paper roll has this effect.
>>
Pure speculation based on the posts but it sounds like the original owner's family is selling this stuff on his behalf and that he's not living there. There was something mentioned about paying for "longterm care" for the owner so I would guess he's not living at the home anymore.
The answer was this: "Maybe...need to finish telling the story first"
<< <i>About an hour ago someone asked this: "Any 70's product? Especially racks?"
The answer was this: "Maybe...need to finish telling the story first" >>
That was me.
Heck of a find. Hopefully there will be some nice 1960's/70's material coming out of this hord.
The Hoarder's Find?
<< <i>I thought 4SC bought and cracked a number of 1982 Topps Traded cases a few years ago, leading to an explosion on the population of graded Ripkens in 8/9/10 >>
You are correct. There was a big number of 10's. 100+ if I recall.
<< <i>Wow, I have a feeling there are going to be a few cases of late 70's racks. I just asked them if they are going to name this unopened find. There is too much to not call it one. Never mind that some of it is already sold.
The Hoarder's Find? >>
That would be pretty cool but the 70s product is much tougher to find than the early 80s stuff we've been seeing thus far.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Kiss me twice.....let's party.
buying O-Pee-Chee (OPC) baseball
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<< <i>lol, I see what you did there.......... >>
I'm guessing those who received damaged boxes don't find it as amusing.
<< <i>Steve saved the best picture for last. It's series #1 (so no Mantles), but it's still A-M-A-Z-I-N-G! Never did I think I'd see one of these.
October fools?
Nickel packs went up through 69 I think?
Anyone know what that is?
<< <i>Some of the items that were tossed - 1988 Fleer Glossy Baseball Set Cases, 1981 Fleer Baseball Wax Cases, 1982 Fleer Baseball Wax Cases, 1990 Score Baseball Factory Set Cases (good, because there are way too many of these in the world), 1981 Fleer Here's Bo! Wax Case....... >>
most likely the one that rosen found.
<< <i>October fools? >>
You got it!
Wonder if it's the same guy?
It hurts to read that they had to throw out tons of product due to water damage e.g.
It's been fun following it on FB..
ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
<< <i>You have to wonder how many more of these hoards are out there? >>
We have learned that this late 70s and early 80s stuff isn't necessarily drying up. In fact, some of it is wetter than ever.
<< <i>There's more hoards like this out there,in fact more than people think.There's some former shop owners that got priced out and couldn't keep up with internet boom on cards that has stuff like this sitting in their non-leaky basements and loose floor boards attics.Eventually the kids take over or the owner passes and it pops up for auction or something like BBCE lucked into.Anyone with 6 figure+ cash to spend can find these if they put a lot of work into it. >>
I was fortunate enough to get to pick through a mini-hoard like you describe about three years ago. Fortunately the inventory was stored in a dry, CA home. A coin dealer bought a house that was owned by an ex-card shop owner. He had cards all over the place. It wasn't as huge as this BBCE find but had some great stuff in there. I bought high grade 1975, 1976 sets, a partial 1977 set, 6 boxes of 1979 baseball wax, 2+ boxes of 1980 baseball wax, two 1982 Topps baseball wax boxes, four 1971 baseball rack packs, several wax boxes of cards from the mid-1970s that were taken out of the wrapper and put back in the box undisturbed, several 1982-5 Donruss wax boxes and a bunch of other misc stuff. There was a lot more I should have bought like more 80s wax boxes I passed on (1981/83 Topps baseball). I was close to passing on the 1979 boxes but glad we came to an agreement at the last minute. That turned out to be a great buy in retrospect. As lucky as I was, I still think back on what I missed. He had already eBayed a 1971 rack with Rose showing on the back and several single 1979 packs as well as some high grade raw RCs and HOFers.
These finds are out there and we'll still see them from time-to-time though they'll probably be less frequent as time goes on.
<< <i>
I was fortunate enough to get to pick through a mini-hoard like you describe about three years ago. Fortunately the inventory was stored in a dry, CA home. A coin dealer bought a house that was owned by an ex-card shop owner. He had cards all over the place. It wasn't as huge as this BBCE find but had some great stuff in there. I bought high grade 1975, 1976 sets, a partial 1977 set, 6 boxes of 1979 baseball wax, 2+ boxes of 1980 baseball wax, two 1982 Topps baseball wax boxes, four 1971 baseball rack packs, several wax boxes of cards from the mid-1970s that were taken out of the wrapper and put back in the box undisturbed, several 1982-5 Donruss wax boxes and a bunch of other misc stuff. There was a lot more I should have bought like more 80s wax boxes I passed on (1981/83 Topps baseball). I was close to passing on the 1979 boxes but glad we came to an agreement at the last minute. That turned out to be a great buy in retrospect. As lucky as I was, I still think back on what I missed. He had already eBayed a 1971 rack with Rose showing on the back and several single 1979 packs as well as some high grade raw RCs and HOFers.
These finds are out there and we'll still see them from time-to-time though they'll probably be less frequent as time goes on. >>
That's a pretty nice haul from what I'm starting to learn about older unopened.I personally know 2 guys,one just did card shows in the late 80's-early 90's and one that had a small store in the middle of nowhere,and they both have a nice inventory.I could buy them out,and probably will at some point,but I don't know if I want to lay down that kind of cash for more limited market items than what I usually deal in.I've ended up with some nice finds at auctions over the years and just had one at an auction earlier this week.Nothing like the unopened BBCE got,but some unopened,some other nice rookies and a nice Jordan collection full of 90's inserts.Less frequent,I agree,but still out there with the right amount of work.Again,that was a very nice haul,especially from a seller that did ebay.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.