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Should slabs have square openings for the coins?

MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭✭
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It would allow for viewing the edge, without the need for prongs.
Andy Lustig

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  • MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭
    Without something grasping the rim you would see a lot of coins rotating.
    Derek

    EAC 6024
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Without something grasping the rim you would see a lot of coins rotating.

    A square opening would grasp a round coin in four places.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Given how close the square edge would come to the coin, I imagine the edge visibility would not be as good as say the ATS edge view holder.
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  • jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭
    Round is more natural but I don't mind to see some square opening samples first image
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the slab was designed with a raised containment, then all sides could be viewed... and they would still stack well... not sure why this is not done. Cheers, RickO
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,133 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Without something grasping the rim you would see a lot of coins rotating.

    A square opening would grasp a round coin in four places. >>



    Eagle holders work like that, but you have to get the thickness of the mylar windows perfect or the coins will move. One of the things that really bugs me with a slab is when the coin rotates. It's almost enough to prompt me to go for a re-holder.

    I will say this about the new prong holders for both NGC and PCGS. I've yet to see a coin rotate in one, although I'm sure that dealers who handle a lot more coins that I do now, have probably seen a few.
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  • COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭
    The mint cello-packs are somewhat like that, you would just need a way to make them secure for
    copies and tampering.
  • NicNic Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I miss high grade raw coins as well. Eliasberg was not that long ago. To me. image

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  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭✭
    Mr. Eureka, your dislike for prongs might possibly lead to an invention of a new slab. Who says hatred is all bad image
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Personally I liked the old holders where the edge was not visible.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I liked the old PCGS holders when the rings were super clear - even years later.

    The new frosted color of the prongs is less ideal to me.
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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>One of the things that really bugs me with a slab is when the coin rotates. >>

    What is worse is when you get a coin back fresh from PCSG with the coin rotated
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,385 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Without something grasping the rim you would see a lot of coins rotating.

    A square opening would grasp a round coin in four places. >>



    Eagle holders work like that, but you have to get the thickness of the mylar windows perfect or the coins will move. One of the things that really bugs me with a slab is when the coin rotates. It's almost enough to prompt me to go for a re-holder.

    I will say this about the new prong holders for both NGC and PCGS. I've yet to see a coin rotate in one, although I'm sure that dealers who handle a lot more coins that I do now, have probably seen a few. >>



    I just received back a newest of new slab and the coin was crooked. I had to do the corner knock to straighten it.

    I recently sent in a couple that were in prongs that could have been called rattlers. They rotated so easily that I gave up trying to keep them straight.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,385 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Squares have corners which would not be good for edge viewing
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,025 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A circular pentaprism made from an optically clear, low refractive index material that gripped the coin securely enough to hold it in position would be best.
    John
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  • ms71ms71 Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a 3-prong RCBS holder in which the coin invariably rotates when the slab rattles around in one of the 20-slab plastic boxes, and it doesn't take much moving of the box for the coin to rotate noticeably, An annoyance, but it's a simple matter to hold the slab loosely with two fingers - one on each of the broad faces of the slab - and tap one of the long edges of the slab, near the corner, against the edge of a wooden desk or table. Usually takes 3 or 4 taps to re-align the coin properly. It's the only 3-prong RCBS holder I've ever noticed with a rotated coin.
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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Two prongs. One looking like a thumb and the other like an index finger. image
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    with the current slab designs employed by all TPG's there will always be part of the rim obscured. I can't recall who the TPG was but somebody had a slab where the coin was encased behind the back surface so that the entire edge was visible --- it went over like a lead balloon.
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>with the current slab designs employed by all TPG's there will always be part of the rim obscured. I can't recall who the TPG was but somebody had a slab where the coin was encased behind the back surface so that the entire edge was visible --- it went over like a lead balloon. >>



    That was Michigan Masters Numismatic Services MMNS.

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>with the current slab designs employed by all TPG's there will always be part of the rim obscured. I can't recall who the TPG was but somebody had a slab where the coin was encased behind the back surface so that the entire edge was visible --- it went over like a lead balloon. >>



    Keets-

    I recall that one as well. Problem was that TPG had no credibility at all.
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    fcloud-that's the one I was thinking of.

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