I don't think these will sustain these sets will sustain these prices~I think you will see them settle back down to around $150 once the fenzy subsides a bit. JMO..
Will be interesting to see how the Ike sets do in the short term.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i> I don't think these will sustain these sets will sustain these prices~I think you will see them settle back down to around $150 once the fenzy subsides a bit. JMO.. >>
Well...normal price history would point to LOWER sales prices as collectors get their shipments and flood the market....since most of the sets shipped a while ago and the "flood" should have already hit AND prices should have dropped
...they have not
Now graded specimens are another story....these WILL drop as the slabs get back to collectors....but... a short term normal event
<< <i> I don't think these will sustain these sets will sustain these prices~I think you will see them settle back down to around $150 once the fenzy subsides a bit. JMO.. >>
Well...normal price history would point to LOWER sales prices as collectors get their shipments and flood the market....since most of the sets shipped a while ago and the "flood" should have already hit AND prices should have dropped
...they have not
Now graded specimens are another story....these WILL drop as the slabs get back to collectors....but... a short term normal event >>
As someone that did get a few extras to flip, timing is key also. But, as I said before I did keep one for my own collection and I enjoy returning the new money into new collectibles. Personally thinking like the formative years coins of 2009 being the second design in that special year the demand was not as great as the first in the series. If the future of the IKE's and Kennedy's I hope they don't follow under the same path. I believe the only thing that saved the 2009 4 different design cents was the finding of the hub doubled dies. It make take a miracle like that for the Ike's to be as great in price as the Trumans. Mintage of just 17,000 may be that miracle though. Kris
<< <i>2009 Formative years cent had a mintage of over 350 million coins from each mint.....300,000 2 roll sets were sold by the Mint
The die varieties were the ONLY thing that gave that series any demand....
Interesting comparison to a 17k dollar >>
Yeah, I tried to use it as a comparison but the mintage of these trumps any variety of millions of cents. I still think these will have a quick sellout on the Ike's too, and the mint to hold a few back to sell a few days after for short 10-15 minute increments as well.
Collectors now nor in the past, have never been the "market makers" for coins, but speculators have. >>
I never said they were. I'll say it again in case it was missed the first time around, there is 1 TV buyer, pushing the numbers and buying up almost all of the raw sets and boxes of 5.
<< <i>Personally thinking like the formative years coins of 2009 being the second design in that special year the demand was not as great as the first in the series. If the future of the IKE's and Kennedy's I hope they don't follow under the same path. >>
With a household limit of 2, the Ikes will initially be more widely distributed than the Trumans, leading to a lower concentration in speculative hands as many collectors opt to keep the one or two sets they receive. A dealer or speculator wishing to amass 100 Ike sets will have to convince 50 of his or her closest friends to go online and place an order, rather than only 20 friends as was the case for the Truman sets.
The lower number of Ike sets in the speculative marketplace, along with the difficulty of building up sizable positions, may lead to higher prices for Ikes than for Trumans, even though both coins will have identical mintages.
Of course, as the Pops go up $3,601 for a pop 3 coin vs a pop of 19 today), the prices come down as folks start to realize that PR70 is not all that unattainable.
On the flip side, sealed sets go up in search of the coin which pays for the grading and then some.
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<< <i>Personally thinking like the formative years coins of 2009 being the second design in that special year the demand was not as great as the first in the series. If the future of the IKE's and Kennedy's I hope they don't follow under the same path. >>
With a household limit of 2, the Ikes will initially be more widely distributed than the Trumans, leading to a lower concentration in speculative hands as many collectors opt to keep the one or two sets they receive. A dealer or speculator wishing to amass 100 Ike sets will have to convince 50 of his or her closest friends to go online and place an order, rather than only 20 friends as was the case for the Truman sets.
The lower number of Ike sets in the speculative marketplace, along with the difficulty of building up sizable positions, may lead to higher prices for Ikes than for Trumans, even though both coins will have identical mintages. >>
This may just be true. course I don't think I even have 50 friends that could buy these for me. lol was hard enough to the 3 sets I got of the Trumans.
Just back from a week outside US w/no internet access. Just checked the prices of the sealed sets on Ebay. WOW!! What a difference a week makes. SO glad that I presold mine to MCM for $425. UGH!!! Guess we all loose some every now and then.
So it will allow maybe a little more time at least to buy the Eisenhower, maybe 20 minutes this time. But with ithe the frenzy on the Truman who knows. >>
Tons to catch up on having been out of town for a week w/no internet access so please forgive the potentially stupid question. I've not had time to read about this. The Eisenhower will not be an RP or a special finish from what I can see. If this is correct, what will be special about it? Thanks
I don't know where the prices are going to end up on these things but at this point with the Truman sets going up every day and the proof 70's being so rare I have turned down
a $900 offer from a great forum member for my box of 5 sealed sets. I think I am going to ride this one out and see where they end up. I don't need the money that bad and am
sorry I sold my first 5 sets for $360 but a deal is a deal and I would not go back on one once I have made it.
As was pointed out in another thread, the US Mint site page that is now up for the Eisenhower set coming up, DOES NOT mention that the set is the only way to get the reverse coin. Also, off to the side, it says product is limited to 17,000 (meaning the sets); but mintage limits.... says NONE. When the Truman was listed, the description stated that the only way to get that reverse proof was to purchase the set.
Bottom line, it brings up a strong possibility the US Mint is keeping open the ability to mint more to offer with other options.
Further bottom line; if that is true, then the Truman will most likely be the KEY by a wide margin. The prices being looked at now may just be the beginning... stay tuned....
Some of you may be "reading too much into something." US Mint clearly states: "Second of four presidential special sets to be available in 2015, includes a Presidential $1 Reverse Proof Coin minted in Philadelphia." Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson sets are also scheduled to contain a Reverse Proof 2015-P Presidential dollar, silver medal and stamp specific to each president. Product limits are 17,000 for the Eisenhower and Johnson sets, with the limit for the Kennedy set established at 25,000.
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<< <i>As was pointed out in another thread, the US Mint site page that is now up for the Eisenhower set coming up, DOES NOT mention that the set is the only way to get the reverse coin. Also, off to the side, it says product is limited to 17,000 (meaning the sets); but mintage limits.... says NONE. When the Truman was listed, the description stated that the only way to get that reverse proof was to purchase the set.
Bottom line, it brings up a strong possibility the US Mint is keeping open the ability to mint more to offer with other options.
Further bottom line; if that is true, then the Truman will most likely be the KEY by a wide margin. The prices being looked at now may just be the beginning... stay tuned.... >>
It doesn't make sense to offer more of the last three, and not the first in a different set. How would they offer a set of reverse proof coins down the road when they are still bound to the 17,000 for the Truman coin since the entire set would be the same mint mark. As was previously stated, if they do in fact offer a reverse proof set of 2015 dollars, they will probably make them a different mint mark.
I agree with sitting on these a little bit longer. I put a sealed box of 3 for $575 on Saturday on ebay and they were purchased within hours, no regrets though. From ebay prices trending higher and higher, I believe a fair price is $225 for a sealed set. But most times in the past that has not the case. Seems like the March of Dimes Set prices are collapsing on the sealed sets, while the Sac Coin and Currency Sets are holding steady since the beginning.
<< <i>Some of you may be "reading too much into something." US Mint clearly states: "Second of four presidential special sets to be available in 2015, includes a Presidential $1 Reverse Proof Coin minted in Philadelphia." Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson sets are also scheduled to contain a Reverse Proof 2015-P Presidential dollar, silver medal and stamp specific to each president. Product limits are 17,000 for the Eisenhower and Johnson sets, with the limit for the Kennedy set established at 25,000. >>
The PRODUCT is the set which is limited to 17,000. The mintage limit of each coin/medal is NONE. Yes, perhaps reading extra into it. BUT the Truman listing specifically said the reverse proof was available only in the set. The Eisenhower listing has that statement taken out. Read into it whatever one wishes. Just sayin' there is a difference. The US Mint has been known to change the rules frequently as it sees fit.
<< <i>As was pointed out in another thread, the US Mint site page that is now up for the Eisenhower set coming up, DOES NOT mention that the set is the only way to get the reverse coin. Also, off to the side, it says product is limited to 17,000 (meaning the sets); but mintage limits.... says NONE. When the Truman was listed, the description stated that the only way to get that reverse proof was to purchase the set.
Bottom line, it brings up a strong possibility the US Mint is keeping open the ability to mint more to offer with other options.
Further bottom line; if that is true, then the Truman will most likely be the KEY by a wide margin. The prices being looked at now may just be the beginning... stay tuned.... >>
It doesn't make sense to offer more of the last three, and not the first in a different set. How would they offer a set of reverse proof coins down the road when they are still bound to the 17,000 for the Truman coin since the entire set would be the same mint mark. As was previously stated, if they do in fact offer a reverse proof set of 2015 dollars, they will probably make them a different mint mark. >>
Perhaps they will include the reverse proof with the regular proof and the BU in a new offering, starting with Eisenhower. Or different mintmarks as stated. Agreed they would not be able to easily include any additional Truman ones, since they so specifically stated available only in the set which was limited to 17,000, so a set of all of the reverse proofs does not seem to be a likely scenario. Hey, beats me. Personally, I hope they ARE in fact going to limit each offering /mintage to 17000 and only in the set. But I'm just pointing out a change... if additional clarification does not come out, then there may be a surprise later in the year. Regardless, the sets will still be a good value. Plenty of time to do some good flippin before the Mint would come out with another product variant (if that is what they turn out to have in mind).
I had it on there for $960 and one of the forum members offered me $900.
I then decided that I did not want to sell it right now so just raised the price so no one would buy it.
I really feel it would be crazy to sell it right now at a price I would be sorry I sold it for.
Maybe I'm the crazy one but I doubt if I will lose money on it regardless. >>
That makes no sense, as you just bumped it TTT today. Why not simply take down the listing (like you did on ebay) rather than gouge the price to a ridiculous level on the forum?
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>As was pointed out in another thread, the US Mint site page that is now up for the Eisenhower set coming up, DOES NOT mention that the set is the only way to get the reverse coin. Also, off to the side, it says product is limited to 17,000 (meaning the sets); but mintage limits.... says NONE. When the Truman was listed, the description stated that the only way to get that reverse proof was to purchase the set.
Bottom line, it brings up a strong possibility the US Mint is keeping open the ability to mint more to offer with other options.
Further bottom line; if that is true, then the Truman will most likely be the KEY by a wide margin. The prices being looked at now may just be the beginning... stay tuned.... >>
It doesn't make sense to offer more of the last three, and not the first in a different set. How would they offer a set of reverse proof coins down the road when they are still bound to the 17,000 for the Truman coin since the entire set would be the same mint mark. As was previously stated, if they do in fact offer a reverse proof set of 2015 dollars, they will probably make them a different mint mark. >>
Perhaps they will include the reverse proof with the regular proof and the BU in a new offering, starting with Eisenhower. Or different mintmarks as stated. Agreed they would not be able to easily include any additional Truman ones, since they so specifically stated available only in the set which was limited to 17,000, so a set of all of the reverse proofs does not seem to be a likely scenario. Hey, beats me. Personally, I hope they ARE in fact going to limit each offering /mintage to 17000 and only in the set. But I'm just pointing out a change... if additional clarification does not come out, then there may be a surprise later in the year. Regardless, the sets will still be a good value. Plenty of time to do some good flippin before the Mint would come out with another product variant (if that is what they turn out to have in mind). >>
Good thinking here. If the Mint wants to change up their plans and make more in a different set, they have that right. This will in turn make a feeding frenzy on the Truman sets. I for one will be here to let you all know if I personally here any news on more mintage than the original 17,000 to help you all here have a jump on picking up a few more of the Truman sets as they will definitely be the KEY. Kris
Collectors now nor in the past, have never been the "market makers" for coins, but speculators have. >>
Yes, you know what happens to the prices for speculator driven coins that have a limited collector demand base.
I saw the reverse Proof Truman dollar at Summer FUN, which is the driver for the price of the set, and it is not an attractive coin.
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With everyone sending their sets in to be graded I wondered how many intact sets are still around ??? Will the few remaining sets have any value in the future or MUST the coin be graded ? I've been told that the coin has to be certified to prove its from the set, having the original set doesn't prove it.
<< <i>With everyone sending their sets in to be graded I wondered how many intact sets are still around ??? Will the few remaining sets have any value in the future or MUST the coin be graded ? I've been told that the coin has to be certified to prove its from the set, having the original set doesn't prove it. >>
With everyone sending their coins in to be graded I wonder how many sets are still intact?? Will these few remaining sets have any value in the future or must the coin be graded?? I've been told that the coin has to be certified to prove it's from the set-having the intact set doesn't prove it.
<< <i>With everyone sending their coins in to be graded I wonder how many sets are still intact?? Will these few remaining sets have any value in the future or must the coin be graded?? I've been told that the coin has to be certified to prove it's from the set-having the intact set doesn't prove it. >>
Indeed. All that packaging just so the coins can be removed and slabbed.
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<< <i>It looks like the mint also removed the prior verbiage from the Truman set as it no longer says the coin is only available in this set....interesting. >>
(In my best Arte Johnson voice): Verrrrrry Interesting!
A surprise four-coin set to be announced Dec. 29, perhaps?
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It looks like the mint also removed the prior verbiage from the Truman set as it no longer says the coin is only available in this set....interesting.
I don't see that, it the same verbiage from the beginning.
The 2015 Coin and Chronicles Set includes a 2015 Harry S. Truman $1 Reverse Proof Coin minted in Philadelphia (found only in this set!), a Truman Presidential Silver Medal, a 1973 U.S. eight–cent Harry S. Truman postage stamp and an informative booklet covering some history from Truman’s early years through his presidency. July 22 verbiage
The 2015 Coin and Chronicles Set includes a 2015 Harry S. Truman $1 Reverse Proof Coin minted in Philadelphia (found only in this set!), a Truman Presidential Silver Medal, a 1973 U.S. eight–cent Harry S. Truman postage stamp and an informative booklet covering some history from Truman’s early years through his presidency.
<< <i>It looks like the mint also removed the prior verbiage from the Truman set as it no longer says the coin is only available in this set....interesting.
I don't see that, it the same verbiage from the beginning.
The 2015 Coin and Chronicles Set includes a 2015 Harry S. Truman $1 Reverse Proof Coin minted in Philadelphia (found only in this set!), a Truman Presidential Silver Medal, a 1973 U.S. eight–cent Harry S. Truman postage stamp and an informative booklet covering some history from Truman’s early years through his presidency. July 22 verbiage
The 2015 Coin and Chronicles Set a Truman Presidential Silver Medal, a 1973 U.S. eight–cent Harry S. Truman postage stamp and an informative booklet covering some history from Truman’s early years through his presidency.
July 2 verbiage
I make PDFs of mint offerings I purchase. >>
Agree. Don't know what you are looking at Schmitz7 but is still says "includes a 2015 Harry S. Truman $1 Reverse Proof Coin minted in Philadelphia (found only in this set!),
<< <i> It looks like the mint also removed the prior verbiage from the Truman set as it no longer says the coin is only available in this set....interesting. I don't see that, it the same verbiage from the beginning. >>
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Will be interesting to see how the Ike sets do in the short term.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
My Adolph A. Weinman signature
<< <i> I don't think these will sustain these sets will sustain these prices~I think you will see them settle back down to around $150 once the fenzy subsides a bit. JMO.. >>
Well...normal price history would point to LOWER sales prices as collectors get their shipments and flood the market....since most of the sets shipped a while ago and the "flood" should have already hit AND prices should have dropped
...they have not
Now graded specimens are another story....these WILL drop as the slabs get back to collectors....but... a short term normal event
<< <i>
<< <i> I don't think these will sustain these sets will sustain these prices~I think you will see them settle back down to around $150 once the fenzy subsides a bit. JMO.. >>
Well...normal price history would point to LOWER sales prices as collectors get their shipments and flood the market....since most of the sets shipped a while ago and the "flood" should have already hit AND prices should have dropped
...they have not
Now graded specimens are another story....these WILL drop as the slabs get back to collectors....but... a short term normal event >>
As someone that did get a few extras to flip, timing is key also. But, as I said before I did keep one for my own collection and I enjoy returning the new money into new collectibles. Personally thinking like the formative years coins of 2009 being the second design in that special year the demand was not as great as the first in the series. If the future of the IKE's and Kennedy's I hope they don't follow under the same path. I believe the only thing that saved the 2009 4 different design cents was the finding of the hub doubled dies. It make take a miracle like that for the Ike's to be as great in price as the Trumans. Mintage of just 17,000 may be that miracle though. Kris
I was a Monkey
The die varieties were the ONLY thing that gave that series any demand....
Interesting comparison to a 17k dollar
<< <i>2009 Formative years cent had a mintage of over 350 million coins from each mint.....300,000 2 roll sets were sold by the Mint
The die varieties were the ONLY thing that gave that series any demand....
Interesting comparison to a 17k dollar >>
Yeah, I tried to use it as a comparison but the mintage of these trumps any variety of millions of cents. I still think these will have a quick sellout on the Ike's too, and the mint to hold a few back to sell a few days after for short 10-15 minute increments as well.
I was a Monkey
<< <i>Collectors are "not driving" the sales. >>
Collectors now nor in the past, have never been the "market makers" for coins, but speculators have.
<< <i>
<< <i>Collectors are "not driving" the sales. >>
Collectors now nor in the past, have never been the "market makers" for coins, but speculators have. >>
I never said they were. I'll say it again in case it was missed the first time around, there is 1 TV buyer, pushing the numbers and buying up almost all of the raw sets and boxes of 5.
<< <i>Personally thinking like the formative years coins of 2009 being the second design in that special year the demand was not as great as the first in the series. If the future of the IKE's and Kennedy's I hope they don't follow under the same path. >>
With a household limit of 2, the Ikes will initially be more widely distributed than the Trumans, leading to a lower concentration in speculative hands as many collectors opt to keep the one or two sets they receive. A dealer or speculator wishing to amass 100 Ike sets will have to convince 50 of his or her closest friends to go online and place an order, rather than only 20 friends as was the case for the Truman sets.
The lower number of Ike sets in the speculative marketplace, along with the difficulty of building up sizable positions, may lead to higher prices for Ikes than for Trumans, even though both coins will have identical mintages.
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<< <i>PCGS PR70 SOLD $ 3,601
MInt seald boxes of five now in the $800 range.
EDITED TO ADD: Last night opened box of five sold for $ 800 >>
Being 1st to Market does have its benefits!
PR70 Sold $1,725
Of course, as the Pops go up $3,601 for a pop 3 coin vs a pop of 19 today), the prices come down as folks start to realize that PR70 is not all that unattainable.
On the flip side, sealed sets go up in search of the coin which pays for the grading and then some.
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<< <i>Raw sets appear to be going up in price....now in the $180 + range. >>
Been that way for a few days, same buyer for all of them.
<< <i>
<< <i>Raw sets appear to be going up in price....now in the $180 + range. >>
Been that way for a few days, same buyer for all of them. >>
Not for my auctions ... different new buyers.
<< <i>
<< <i>Personally thinking like the formative years coins of 2009 being the second design in that special year the demand was not as great as the first in the series. If the future of the IKE's and Kennedy's I hope they don't follow under the same path. >>
With a household limit of 2, the Ikes will initially be more widely distributed than the Trumans, leading to a lower concentration in speculative hands as many collectors opt to keep the one or two sets they receive. A dealer or speculator wishing to amass 100 Ike sets will have to convince 50 of his or her closest friends to go online and place an order, rather than only 20 friends as was the case for the Truman sets.
The lower number of Ike sets in the speculative marketplace, along with the difficulty of building up sizable positions, may lead to higher prices for Ikes than for Trumans, even though both coins will have identical mintages. >>
This may just be true. course I don't think I even have 50 friends that could buy these for me. lol was hard enough to the 3 sets I got of the Trumans.
I was a Monkey
<< <i>Eisenhower will be limited to a household limit of 2 with a mintage of 17K
Eisenhower
So it will allow maybe a little more time at least to buy the Eisenhower, maybe 20 minutes this time. But with ithe the frenzy on the Truman who knows. >>
Tons to catch up on having been out of town for a week w/no internet access so please forgive the potentially stupid question. I've not had time to read about this. The Eisenhower will not be an RP or a special finish from what I can see. If this is correct, what will be special about it? Thanks
I knew it would happen.
a $900 offer from a great forum member for my box of 5 sealed sets. I think I am going to ride this one out and see where they end up. I don't need the money that bad and am
sorry I sold my first 5 sets for $360 but a deal is a deal and I would not go back on one once I have made it.
Bottom line, it brings up a strong possibility the US Mint is keeping open the ability to mint more to offer with other options.
Further bottom line; if that is true, then the Truman will most likely be the KEY by a wide margin. The prices being looked at now may just be the beginning... stay tuned....
US Mint clearly states: "Second of four presidential special sets to be available in 2015, includes a Presidential $1 Reverse Proof Coin minted in Philadelphia." Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson sets are also scheduled to contain a Reverse Proof 2015-P Presidential dollar, silver medal and stamp specific to each president. Product limits are 17,000 for the Eisenhower and Johnson sets, with the limit for the Kennedy set established at 25,000.
<< <i>As was pointed out in another thread, the US Mint site page that is now up for the Eisenhower set coming up, DOES NOT mention that the set is the only way to get the reverse coin. Also, off to the side, it says product is limited to 17,000 (meaning the sets); but mintage limits.... says NONE. When the Truman was listed, the description stated that the only way to get that reverse proof was to purchase the set.
Bottom line, it brings up a strong possibility the US Mint is keeping open the ability to mint more to offer with other options.
Further bottom line; if that is true, then the Truman will most likely be the KEY by a wide margin. The prices being looked at now may just be the beginning... stay tuned.... >>
It doesn't make sense to offer more of the last three, and not the first in a different set. How would they offer a set of reverse proof coins down the road when they are still bound to the 17,000 for the Truman coin since the entire set would be the same mint mark. As was previously stated, if they do in fact offer a reverse proof set of 2015 dollars, they will probably make them a different mint mark.
Box of 20
<< <i>Some of you may be "reading too much into something."
US Mint clearly states: "Second of four presidential special sets to be available in 2015, includes a Presidential $1 Reverse Proof Coin minted in Philadelphia." Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson sets are also scheduled to contain a Reverse Proof 2015-P Presidential dollar, silver medal and stamp specific to each president. Product limits are 17,000 for the Eisenhower and Johnson sets, with the limit for the Kennedy set established at 25,000. >>
The PRODUCT is the set which is limited to 17,000. The mintage limit of each coin/medal is NONE. Yes, perhaps reading extra into it. BUT the Truman listing specifically said the reverse proof was available only in the set. The Eisenhower listing has that statement taken out. Read into it whatever one wishes. Just sayin' there is a difference. The US Mint has been known to change the rules frequently as it sees fit.
<< <i>
<< <i>As was pointed out in another thread, the US Mint site page that is now up for the Eisenhower set coming up, DOES NOT mention that the set is the only way to get the reverse coin. Also, off to the side, it says product is limited to 17,000 (meaning the sets); but mintage limits.... says NONE. When the Truman was listed, the description stated that the only way to get that reverse proof was to purchase the set.
Bottom line, it brings up a strong possibility the US Mint is keeping open the ability to mint more to offer with other options.
Further bottom line; if that is true, then the Truman will most likely be the KEY by a wide margin. The prices being looked at now may just be the beginning... stay tuned.... >>
It doesn't make sense to offer more of the last three, and not the first in a different set. How would they offer a set of reverse proof coins down the road when they are still bound to the 17,000 for the Truman coin since the entire set would be the same mint mark. As was previously stated, if they do in fact offer a reverse proof set of 2015 dollars, they will probably make them a different mint mark. >>
Perhaps they will include the reverse proof with the regular proof and the BU in a new offering, starting with Eisenhower. Or different mintmarks as stated. Agreed they would not be able to easily include any additional Truman ones, since they so specifically stated available only in the set which was limited to 17,000, so a set of all of the reverse proofs does not seem to be a likely scenario. Hey, beats me. Personally, I hope they ARE in fact going to limit each offering /mintage to 17000 and only in the set. But I'm just pointing out a change... if additional clarification does not come out, then there may be a surprise later in the year. Regardless, the sets will still be a good value. Plenty of time to do some good flippin before the Mint would come out with another product variant (if that is what they turn out to have in mind).
I had it on there for $960 and one of the forum members offered me $900.
I then decided that I did not want to sell it right now so just raised the price so no one would buy it.
I really feel it would be crazy to sell it right now at a price I would be sorry I sold it for.
Maybe I'm the crazy one but I doubt if I will lose money on it regardless.
<< <i>That one would be mine.
I had it on there for $960 and one of the forum members offered me $900.
I then decided that I did not want to sell it right now so just raised the price so no one would buy it.
I really feel it would be crazy to sell it right now at a price I would be sorry I sold it for.
Maybe I'm the crazy one but I doubt if I will lose money on it regardless. >>
That makes no sense, as you just bumped it TTT today. Why not simply take down the listing (like you did on ebay) rather than gouge the price to a ridiculous level on the forum?
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Hoard the keys.
<< <i>WoW over $1300 for a NGC 70 set, MCM is happy on this one or two.
They have (had) three out there...1st one sold for $1702 on Saturday...next two are at $1352 (1 day left) and $1300 (3 day left)
This is why they are listing only the 69's as BIN's...no clue what the 70's will go for
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>As was pointed out in another thread, the US Mint site page that is now up for the Eisenhower set coming up, DOES NOT mention that the set is the only way to get the reverse coin. Also, off to the side, it says product is limited to 17,000 (meaning the sets); but mintage limits.... says NONE. When the Truman was listed, the description stated that the only way to get that reverse proof was to purchase the set.
Bottom line, it brings up a strong possibility the US Mint is keeping open the ability to mint more to offer with other options.
Further bottom line; if that is true, then the Truman will most likely be the KEY by a wide margin. The prices being looked at now may just be the beginning... stay tuned.... >>
It doesn't make sense to offer more of the last three, and not the first in a different set. How would they offer a set of reverse proof coins down the road when they are still bound to the 17,000 for the Truman coin since the entire set would be the same mint mark. As was previously stated, if they do in fact offer a reverse proof set of 2015 dollars, they will probably make them a different mint mark. >>
Perhaps they will include the reverse proof with the regular proof and the BU in a new offering, starting with Eisenhower. Or different mintmarks as stated. Agreed they would not be able to easily include any additional Truman ones, since they so specifically stated available only in the set which was limited to 17,000, so a set of all of the reverse proofs does not seem to be a likely scenario. Hey, beats me. Personally, I hope they ARE in fact going to limit each offering /mintage to 17000 and only in the set. But I'm just pointing out a change... if additional clarification does not come out, then there may be a surprise later in the year. Regardless, the sets will still be a good value. Plenty of time to do some good flippin before the Mint would come out with another product variant (if that is what they turn out to have in mind). >>
Good thinking here. If the Mint wants to change up their plans and make more in a different set, they have that right. This will in turn make a feeding frenzy on the Truman sets. I for one will be here to let you all know if I personally here any news on more mintage than the original 17,000 to help you all here have a jump on picking up a few more of the Truman sets as they will definitely be the KEY. Kris
I was a Monkey
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<< <i>Collectors are "not driving" the sales. >>
Collectors now nor in the past, have never been the "market makers" for coins, but speculators have. >>
Yes, you know what happens to the prices for speculator driven coins that have a limited collector demand base.
I saw the reverse Proof Truman dollar at Summer FUN, which is the driver for the price of the set, and it is not an attractive coin.
<< <i>I sold all mine to MCM. >>
Did you take them up on their offer to do all the ordering for you?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>With everyone sending their sets in to be graded I wondered how many intact sets are still around ??? Will the few remaining sets have any value in the future or MUST the coin be graded ? I've been told that the coin has to be certified to prove its from the set, having the original set doesn't prove it. >>
so far, it is the only RP set planned.
the Mint has been known to change plans though.
the detail around the eyes is easily lost while looking at it.
<< <i>With everyone sending their coins in to be graded I wonder how many sets are still intact?? Will these few remaining sets have any value in the future or must the coin be graded?? I've been told that the coin has to be certified to prove it's from the set-having the intact set doesn't prove it. >>
Indeed. All that packaging just so the coins can be removed and slabbed.
<< <i>It looks like the mint also removed the prior verbiage from the Truman set as it no longer says the coin is only available in this set....interesting. >>
(In my best Arte Johnson voice): Verrrrrry Interesting!
A surprise four-coin set to be announced Dec. 29, perhaps?
I don't see that, it the same verbiage from the beginning.
The 2015 Coin and Chronicles Set includes a 2015 Harry S. Truman $1 Reverse Proof Coin minted in Philadelphia (found only in this set!), a Truman Presidential Silver Medal, a 1973 U.S. eight–cent Harry S. Truman postage stamp and an informative booklet covering some history from Truman’s early years through his presidency. July 22 verbiage
The 2015 Coin and Chronicles Set includes a 2015 Harry S.
Truman $1 Reverse Proof Coin minted in Philadelphia
(found only in this set!), a Truman Presidential Silver
Medal, a 1973 U.S. eight–cent Harry S. Truman postage
stamp and an informative booklet covering some history
from Truman’s early years through his presidency.
July 2 verbiage
I make PDFs of mint offerings I purchase.
Box of 20
<< <i>It looks like the mint also removed the prior verbiage from the Truman set as it no longer says the coin is only available in this set....interesting.
I don't see that, it the same verbiage from the beginning.
The 2015 Coin and Chronicles Set includes a 2015 Harry S. Truman $1 Reverse Proof Coin minted in Philadelphia (found only in this set!), a Truman Presidential Silver Medal, a 1973 U.S. eight–cent Harry S. Truman postage stamp and an informative booklet covering some history from Truman’s early years through his presidency. July 22 verbiage
The 2015 Coin and Chronicles Set a Truman Presidential Silver
Medal, a 1973 U.S. eight–cent Harry S. Truman postage
stamp and an informative booklet covering some history
from Truman’s early years through his presidency.
July 2 verbiage
I make PDFs of mint offerings I purchase. >>
Agree. Don't know what you are looking at Schmitz7 but is still says "includes a 2015 Harry S. Truman $1 Reverse Proof Coin minted in Philadelphia (found only in this set!),
Box of 20
<< <i> It looks like the mint also removed the prior verbiage from the Truman set as it no longer says the coin is only available in this set....interesting. I don't see that, it the same verbiage from the beginning. >>
They removed THAT...