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Actual grade revealed: If I told you this coin returned as a VF20...

coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭
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After having viewed this coin in hand, I was more confident in some about the grading possibilities. Though, I did expect a VF20 at least, I'm not terribly disappointed.

Final vote before the reveal:

If this coin returned as a PCGS VF20, how would you feel?

Total Votes: 150


Slightly over graded
29 (votes) 19.33 (%)
Slightly under graded
20 (votes) 13.33 (%)
Very over graded
13 (votes) 8.67 (%)
Very under graded
2 (votes) 1.33 (%)
Right on the money
39 (votes) 26.00 (%)
Can't believe it straight graded - looks like a problem coin
37 (votes) 24.67 (%)
No answer / show results
10 (votes) 6.67 (%)



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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I personally would've given it a 25.

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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am also in the VF-25 camp.
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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Netted due to borderline environmental issues IMHO.

    Edit to add: didn't vote because no answer seemed appropriate due to my opinion.
  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Netted due to borderline environmental issues IMHO.
    >>



    This was my first thought as well
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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seems just about right, overall, to me.
  • MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,106 ✭✭✭✭
    I would say you got lucky.
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  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would be happy if that straight-graded at VF-20.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NET Grade Camp at first glance.
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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,270 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Netted due to borderline environmental issues IMHO.

    Edit to add: didn't vote because no answer seemed appropriate due to my opinion. >>



    Both sentences were my exact thoughts after looking at the picture before looking at the choices and comments.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,441 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would feel very fine about counting my blessings. All 20 of them, numerically and numismatically speaking, that is. And to be quite frank, I dont think I would have even submitted it.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,420 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A coin I would pass on. Not VF and has surface and rim problems.
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  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,560 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a VF25 to me.
  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would be happy if that straight-graded at VF-20. >>



    Me too, looks like everyone's on the same page here. It's probably a tough coin, seeing as that's how you roll image.... I'll bet you're happy to see it grade !
  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Accurately graded to me- with obvious issues.

    on second look maybe f-18
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  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,673 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would be happy if that straight-graded at VF-20. >>



    Me too.
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Probably graded down for stated issues. Unless it is a tuff variety I would pass and get a nicer one.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd have been pleasantly surprised with a VF20 grade.
    John
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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Detail is VF and if it did straight grade I would expect it to be netted to Fine.
  • KoveKove Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭✭
    Netted down to 20 seems ok, but I'd sell that coin as soon as it came back.
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Right on. image


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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    id be happy with the grade as well. it looks good to me
  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the VF is about right. Some things say 20, others say 25 to me. It has lots of issues but nothing I see is so bad that it gets bagged.
    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sooooooo? What's the story Jerry?

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  • CoinZipCoinZip Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭
    I think the variety may have had an effect on the grade.....

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  • winkywinky Posts: 1,671 ✭
    Too many marks for me to be a 20, I voted against the coin for problems.imageimageimageimage
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,474 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think the variety may have had an effect on the grade..... >>



    Ain't that like the tail wagging the dog ? I think it has obvious ED, and I don't mean the kind that can be fixed with a pill.

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  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think the variety may have had an effect on the grade..... >>



    I disagree. I doubt the graders were even aware it was a rare variety, unless by chance one of them is also an expert on Bust halves.

    The coin has env. damage, plain and simple. The graders were gracious enough to net grade it at F+ instead of giving it no grade at all. If I were the OP, I'd be elated that the coin even received a numeric grade.
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I went with "slightly overgraded" but think it's a cool CircCam.

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  • maibockaddictmaibockaddict Posts: 1,759 ✭
    It looks VF, and if it had fewer marks It may have gone higher than 20. But I think the grade is OK
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  • CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That "cameo" look suggests that someone artificially darkened the coin to hide all the scratches on the neck and in the fields
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's corroded silver. Back in the day when I was getting my collection graded, that would have come back in a body bag.

    This is an example of the dumbing down of grading standards.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would say overgraded.... even not considering environmental issues... Cheers, RickO
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a 20 to me.
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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm actually OK with the grade, for a change. It's a 20, no better, no worse.

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  • zap1111zap1111 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭
    I think you were fortunate if indeed you got a straight VF20 out of the grading service. I would've submitted it, as well. Worth the shot for a tough R5+ coin. Nice find!
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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,436 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A coin I would pass on. Not VF and has surface and rim problems. >>



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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,356 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not a fan of this one in the VF spectrum... my sincere apologies

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  • coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭
  • maibockaddictmaibockaddict Posts: 1,759 ✭
    In an F15 holder the coin is worth between 1K and 2K.
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  • coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭


    << <i>In an F15 holder the coin is worth between 1K and 2K. >>



    Really? I was thinking more like $900 tops. Please PM me image
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    F15 was exactly what I was thinkin', which is why I said "slightly overgraded" at VF20.

    I could've seen it "just squeak by" as a 20 without being surprised, but I think F15 is right on the money.

    And despite what some called "environmental damage" or "corrosion" on the surfaces, I like the look of it, as previously mentioned.


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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've seen worse coins than this in 20 holders so I'm surprised our host didn't VF this piece.

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