Brief ebay rant... talk is cheap, how about a FVF discount?!

Raufus

I've been selling coins on ebay for years - well into the six figures.

I've bent over backwards to keep all manner of problem buyers happy to maintain my 100% Pos. FB and all 5/5 DSRs.

I used to be a "PowerSeller" with a 20% FVF discount.

Now, despite that I have the best possible Seller ratings, 100% compliance, perfect seller dashboard, etc I get no FVF discount SOLELY because I don't sell 100 items/year despite that I sell many items in the several hundred to several thousand dollar range.

I got the below message from ebay today. I was thinking that while I appreciate the small perks, sellers who have a many year track record of hundreds of sales with perfect seller ratings should be able to have Top Rated status and the FVF discount. When they used to have Powersellers, attaining PS status and the discount was a combo of number of items sold and price of the items. Higher price, less items required.

I just don't have the time to sell a bunch of cheap junk just to buff my numbers. Further, ironically I find the buyers of lower priced items to be more difficult than those of higher priced items.

Of course, my opinion means jack to ebay but had to vent. I know that others on this forum feel the same way.

Now, back to regular programming. Sorry for the rant :-)

Today's message:


eBay

Here's how we protected your selling account

Hi ,

Thanks for consistently delivering exceptional service to your buyers. We're here to provide you a marketplace where you can sell with confidence. That's why we've taken the following steps during the past month to protect your account:

Automatically set 3 of your detailed seller rating(s) to 5 stars from qualifying transactions
We've already updated your seller dashboard to reflect these changes, which are for transactions made during the past year. When we remove transaction defects, your transaction defect rate may not go down if you had transactions that received more than one defect.

We'll continue to improve our monitoring, detection systems, and policies to protect sellers like you. To see these updates, go to your seller dashboard.

Go to seller dashboard

Bayard1908

eBay jumped the shark quite some time ago. The good old days are over.

I think someone would almost have to be crazy to put high value items on eBay. The scammers, unreasonable buyers, free returns, defects, items hidden in search, etcetera have become too much. In five years, eBay could be little more than a memory. You can't abuse your customers consistently and expect to succeed.

amwldcoin

Doesn't seem like it would be that big a deal to sell a few cheap items a year to keep your transactions over 100. H! You could just give a way a few $50 coins and come out to the good with your FV Fee discount! Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do....just like the free shiping BS!

LindeDad

Got a offer for $20.00 max today but I don't want to take the several hundred dollars loss to give my real gold away to somebody for paper gold.

silverpop

see unlike most I avoid E-bay at any cost too many red flags for my comfort

Raufus

<< <i>Doesn't seem like it would be that big a deal to sell a few cheap items a year to keep your transactions over 100. H! You could just give a way a few $50 coins and come out to the good with your FV Fee discount! Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do....just like the free shiping BS! >>



They can certainly do what they want. Just seems so absurd.

I'll have to consider the hassle factor of selling items just to buff numbers.

The Free Shipping BS has certainly gotten a lot harder to deal with w/the new USPS Insurance rates. Of course, the 20% FVF discount is supposed to partially compensate for the free shipping that one essentially must offer to get the discount.

asheland

I gave up selling on there a couple of years ago. I've read enough here and other places. I have no desire to sell on ebay.
Buying, that's different.

ricko

I gave up ebay years ago. What was once a great venue spiraled downward into a morass of con artists and outright thieves. Cheers, RickO

derryb

<< <i>Now, despite that I have the best possible Seller ratings, 100% compliance, perfect seller dashboard, etc I get no FVF discount SOLELY because I don't sell 100 items/year despite that I sell many items in the several hundred to several thousand dollar range. >>


Simple requirement to meet, just list a lot of cheap items to maintain the 100 per year. I do it with individual silver eagles. When my seller dashboard shows me getting back down near 100 I just throw some more ASEs out there.

19Lyds

<< <i>I've been selling coins on ebay for years - well into the six figures.

I've bent over backwards to keep all manner of problem buyers happy to maintain my 100% Pos. FB and all 5/5 DSRs.

I used to be a "PowerSeller" with a 20% FVF discount.

Now, despite that I have the best possible Seller ratings, 100% compliance, perfect seller dashboard, etc I get no FVF discount SOLELY because I don't sell 100 items/year despite that I sell many items in the several hundred to several thousand dollar range.

I got the below message from ebay today. I was thinking that while I appreciate the small perks, sellers who have a many year track record of hundreds of sales with perfect seller ratings should be able to have Top Rated status and the FVF discount. When they used to have Powersellers, attaining PS status and the discount was a combo of number of items sold and price of the items. Higher price, less items required.

I just don't have the time to sell a bunch of cheap junk just to buff my numbers. Further, ironically I find the buyers of lower priced items to be more difficult than those of higher priced items.

Of course, my opinion means jack to ebay but had to vent. I know that others on this forum feel the same way.

Now, back to regular programming. Sorry for the rant :-)

Today's message:


eBay

Here's how we protected your selling account

Hi ,

Thanks for consistently delivering exceptional service to your buyers. We're here to provide you a marketplace where you can sell with confidence. That's why we've taken the following steps during the past month to protect your account:

Automatically set 3 of your detailed seller rating(s) to 5 stars from qualifying transactions
We've already updated your seller dashboard to reflect these changes, which are for transactions made during the past year. When we remove transaction defects, your transaction defect rate may not go down if you had transactions that received more than one defect.

We'll continue to improve our monitoring, detection systems, and policies to protect sellers like you. To see these updates, go to your seller dashboard.

Go to seller dashboard >>

I get the exact same message every month....................it's more or less a robo-email for sellers that do not do a volume of sales.
I lost my Power Seller status a year or more back and then lost my Top Rated Seller Status despite a last minute effort of some near give aways.

Today, I'll just plug along and pay no never mind to eBay and their best efforts at getting me to have more "give aways".

pennyannie

I lost my Power Seller status years ago. I feel your pain.

List a 5 dollar item and I will nail your ratings for you to lessen the pain you feel. The little stuff is always the stuff that causes you grief.

mustangmanbob

People have been playing ebay ratings for years.

In your case, list 50 wheat pennys for $.02 each, in different auctions, list it as a stock photo, with LOCAL PICK UP ONLY, No Paypal.

You will get feedback trolls who "buy" the item, leave positive feedback in return for positive feedback, and you mark it as paid.

Pops the number up quickly.

TwoSides2aCoin

Buy the company and get the perks with the quirks.

MsMorrisine

Raufus... you have a PM

Cougar1978

I lost my power seller status years ago over the same thing (sold 96 items instead of 100) even though the dollar amount of my sales way exceeded the minimum sales amount.

Now as I am liquidating a lot of material (fed up with the market, etc) I will achieve that quantity for sure. Not the way I want to get there but the time has come for more reasons than one.

TwoSides2aCoin

PayPow™
Coming soon. Buy Now , Pay Pow

GrumpyEd

Put some silver dimes at face or wheat cents at face with free shipping.
Mail them with a stamp.

If anything is claimed as lost refund it.

You'll be ahead for the effort of mailing.

pf70collector

I know ebay can be a pain, but I still cant' complain too much about them. I make money. They make money. They are in line with auction houses as far as their share in the sales.

I always open an ebay store to get discounted FVF if only for a month and than I close it down after I am finishing selling. I won't waste my time selling a 100 items to get a better rating either.

lordmarcovan

<< <i>Further, ironically I find the buyers of lower priced items to be more difficult than those of higher priced items >>

fUNNY HOW I had my Caps Lock key on

Funny how that works, ain't it? Ironic but true.

eBay has jumped the shark in many ways, but I'm still an occasional seller and bidder. It's still the 800-lb gorilla of auction sites, and hard to beat for selection (if you're a buyer) or eyes on your merchandise (if you're a seller), and global spread.

TwoSides2aCoin

I won't say it again. BUY EBAY NOW.
It will offset the fees. Just like dividends from CLCT pays for my annual membership fees.
Remember: We are what we eat. Consider this "Breaking bread", like communion, and TGIF.

OPA

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<< <i>Now, despite that I have the best possible Seller ratings, 100% compliance, perfect seller dashboard, etc I get no FVF discount SOLELY because I don't sell 100 items/year despite that I sell many items in the several hundred to several thousand dollar range. >>


Simple requirement to meet, just list a lot of cheap items to maintain the 100 per year. I do it with individual silver eagles. When my seller dashboard shows me getting back down near 100 I just throw some more ASEs out there. >>



Been doing that for years....no big thing. It's worth the 20% discount on top of a 6% FVF

jmski52

ebay seems more and more like the gubermint every day, making you jump through hoops to generate bogus ratings

tincup

<< <i>Put some silver dimes at face or wheat cents at face with free shipping.
Mail them with a stamp.

If anything is claimed as lost refund it.

You'll be ahead for the effort of mailing. >>




This strategy may not get you there. If I remember correctly, you also have to provide tracking; if you have below 95% or so that you did not provide tracking number, your seller rating will suffer also?

Ebay always seems to make up a set of requirements that can always seem to trip you up. I think the goal is to keep you selling more and more in trying to meet the levels, but then never seem to stay there for very long....

TwoSides2aCoin

dac076

<< <i>

<< <i>Put some silver dimes at face or wheat cents at face with free shipping.
Mail them with a stamp.

If anything is claimed as lost refund it.

You'll be ahead for the effort of mailing. >>




This strategy may not get you there. If I remember correctly, you also have to provide tracking; if you have below 95% or so that you did not provide tracking number, your seller rating will suffer also?

Ebay always seems to make up a set of requirements that can always seem to trip you up. I think the goal is to keep you selling more and more in trying to meet the levels, but then never seem to stay there for very long.... >>




That is correct.

OPA

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<< <i>

<< <i>Put some silver dimes at face or wheat cents at face with free shipping.
Mail them with a stamp.

If anything is claimed as lost refund it.

You'll be ahead for the effort of mailing. >>




This strategy may not get you there. If I remember correctly, you also have to provide tracking; if you have below 95% or so that you did not provide tracking number, your seller rating will suffer also?

Ebay always seems to make up a set of requirements that can always seem to trip you up. I think the goal is to keep you selling more and more in trying to meet the levels, but then never seem to stay there for very long.... >>




That is correct. >>



10 4.....1 oz of common ASE's, bars or rounds with $2.05 in s&h. should do it. Consider them "loss leaders"