1874-cc dime GTG

ebaybuyer · May 13, 2015 2:09PM

I don't care about your biased allegiance to the brand of holder, but rather whats in the holder

tradedollarnut · May 13, 2015 2:26PM

40 net graded to 35

ebaybuyer · May 13, 2015 2:53PM

id say by itself the knife wound to the oNE is enough to subtract a minimum of 5 points

ricko · May 13, 2015 10:41PM

35....shame about the gouge.... Cheers, RickO

DIMEMAN · May 13, 2015 10:53PM

vf details.......damage, cleaned and EV.

MsMorrisine · May 13, 2015 11:14PM

vf details

Batman23 · May 13, 2015 11:32PM

I'd go VF35. Too bad about the reverse hit.

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BillJones · May 13, 2015 11:58PM

PCGS has not given any of these coins this grade, but my net grade would be VF-25. The sharpness is close to EF, with the reverse all there, with exception of the scratch. The obverse has had a bit of cleaning, and there are some spots. Still I think of what a VF-20 would look like these days, so VF-25 seems fair.

mr1931S · May 14, 2015 3:33AM

This '74-cc has lots of detail remaining.Gouge on "ONE" not too big a deal.Decent color,front and back.There shouldn't be any shame for the collector in putting this coin into his or her collection of Seated dimes,assembled by date and mintmark.This date is definitely not for the type collector,however.One shouldn't buy with the expectation it's going to pay off big as an investment either.

Net to VF20 for pricing purposes.I would be hard-pressed to take much less than 20K if this coin were mine and I was trying to sell it.

asheland · May 14, 2015 3:35AM

<< <i>vf details.......damage, cleaned and EV. >>

Exactly my thought.

johnny9434 · May 14, 2015 4:23AM

vf details, cleaned

winky · May 14, 2015 5:37AM

I don't care what anybody says, it is still a 1874 CC dime and rare as hens teeth. I like it.

DIMEMAN · May 14, 2015 5:44AM

Didn't say I didn't like it. I would take it in a heartbeat.

Don't think I would pay near 20K for it though.

I wish I had my nice original good back!

roadrunner · May 14, 2015 5:49AM

What Bill Jones said.

I'd grade it XF details. Net value of a F-VF coin. If by some chance this was given a "pass" then it should be in a VF holder. Compared to the typically seen corroded and mangled coins, this one is pretty nice....maybe in the upper half of all coins from a "problem-free" perspective. I doubt there's more than a 2-3 dozen problem free coins in existence. The rarest "collectible" CC seated coin.

Back in the 1974 this date listed in Coin World trends in XF for $750. It was the number 1 coin on so many want lists. Regardless, it tended to trade for up to 2X listed levels. It probably took 30-35 years before the price lists finally caught up with real price of the 74-cc dimes. And that was one reason I never bought a top-notch specimen. I just couldn't bring myself to pay 2X what the "listed" price was. And 40 years later....still don't own one. I did own a problematic example around 1976 that was like F-VF details and heavily hacked up. I sold it for around Good 4 money. Never dreamed it would be the last one I ever owned. I was sure I was going to discover a sleeper unc at a show or auction someday. Yeah right..........

DaveWcoins · May 14, 2015 6:33AM

<< <i>PCGS has not given any of these coins this grade, but my net grade would be VF-25. The sharpness is close to EF, with the reverse all there, with exception of the scratch. The obverse has had a bit of cleaning, and there are some spots. Still I think of what a VF-20 would look like these days, so VF-25 seems fair. >>

I also agree with Bill Jones analysis, but I would net it to VF-20.

A rare coin, and much better than usually seen.

mr1931S · May 14, 2015 6:52AM

1959 (12th Edition) Redbook lists 1874-cc dime in "Fine" for $120. An "Unc."? $390.

I really need to get busy on my time travel project....Einstein theorized that time travel is possible...

Catch22 · May 14, 2015 8:02AM

40 no remarks.

ChangeInHistory · May 14, 2015 11:24AM

(Net) VF-30

Cougar1978 · May 14, 2015 11:44AM

VF20 - don't like the spots on it, ugly - low end. Someone would need to discount it to sell it.

jdimmick · May 14, 2015 11:48AM

If I recall this coin is graded XF , looked at it in auction lots a few years ago when it came up. Had it been any other date, they would have bagged it due to the horrendous "dig" on reverse.

roadrunner · May 14, 2015 12:14PM

<< <i>If I recall this coin is graded XF , looked at it in auction lots a few years ago when it came up. Had it been any other date, they would have bagged it due to the horrendous "dig" on reverse. >>

I had a PCGS VF-25 or VF-30 1872-s 25c sent to me about 6-8 years ago. It seemed like a fantastic deal for this date. Upon inspection both sides had a lot of blackening as if once in a fire. There was also a significant scratch right running mostly left to right across much of the the eagle....longer but not as wide as the gouge on this 74-cc dime. I hated to send such an elusive coin back but was afraid at some point in time the coin could morph into "genuine." A couple years later I saw it hit auction and fetch over $1,000 more!

seateddime · May 15, 2015 9:15AM

If I was grading it I would say VF35 but not original so likely would not holder.

Put it in a envelope and wait 10-15 years and it will look a lot nicer.

coindeuce · May 15, 2015 8:42PM

It is obvious from the images that it resides in our hosts holder. And from having observed that our host will tend to straight grade rare date type coins with minor problems, I believe it is graded VF-35.

tradedollarnut · May 16, 2015 10:49PM

So what is it graded already?!

ebaybuyer · May 16, 2015 11:40PM

40 ... and in a secure holder. my point is, that had it been a more common date it probably would have been BB'd for at least one of its problems, or graded much lower. I grade it AU ...an acronym for "Awful Ugly"

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DIMEMAN · May 17, 2015 1:24AM

>>>Should be DNG all day! <<<

I agree.

ebaybuyer · May 17, 2015 3:11AM

i have several that i would like to send in with this guy's submissions, earlier this year i was going 19 for 20 with fair grades, my last two boxes came back filled with WTF?'s if i had a better camera i would shoot some examples, but suffice to say that i miss the grader i was getting earlier this year. he or she had a working knowledge of what they were looking at and graded fairly, sometimes a bit conservative but still fair, im half tempted to include a note with my next sub requesting my coins be graded by one of the competent graders. rather than overgrading two of the twenty, then undergrading the rest, why not grade them all fairly ?

coindeuce · May 17, 2015 8:27AM

<< <i>40 ... and in a secure holder. my point is, that had it been a more common date it probably would have been BB'd for at least one of its problems, or graded much lower. I grade it AU ...an acronym for "Awful Ugly" >>

I had the exact issue with a VF30 '72-CC quarter that appeared here a few years ago. I paid for it via an escrow service, and promptly shipped it back to the seller on receipt, telling them that they should take PCGS' opinion with a huge grain of salt.

291fifth · May 17, 2015 9:14AM

Vf details, genuine. I would never buy it as an Xf.

tradedollarnut · May 17, 2015 10:14AM

IIRC, they pretty much all look like that

Barndog · May 17, 2015 10:27AM

lots of bust and seated coins with damage from circulation are in NP holders -- market acceptable. It's just the way it is. Collectors just need to determine if such coins are worthy of their collections.

seateddime · May 17, 2015 11:53AM

You did really well getting that in a XF 40 holder, it is a tough coin.

I personally would sell it and use the money to buy a problem free one.

This is Jim Gray's former coin graded NGC AU53 - PCGS would not cross it at a 50, they wanted to grade it a 45 so if your coin is a 40 how do you think it compares?

mr1931S · May 17, 2015 10:18PM

This is Jim Gray's former coin graded NGC AU53 - PCGS would not cross it at a 50, they wanted to grade it a 45 so if your coin is a 40 how do you think it compares?

I see the grade now after i guessed in the other thread.

I would never buy the '74-cc subject of this GTG as XF40.It's easily a $15K,possibly $20K (on a good day) coin though,in my opinion.That said,many,if not most, surviving '74-CC's do not look nearly as nice as this one.The damage on the reverse is limited to the 'N E'.The die crack in 'C C',that all genuine '74-cc's should have,is not damaged.This should be a very important consideration for anyone who needs a '74-cc for their collection regardless of grade,regardless of "acceptable" damage that might otherwise be present.Extremely rare,rare as hen's teeth as someone here mentioned.According to Greer,R5 in grades below XF.Details XF.Price at VF.

XF 45 is definitely too low a grade for a cross on the ex Gray piece,in my opinion.No cross at 50 either? Puzzling.NGC undergraded Jim Gray's coin,in my opinion.I still think its an AU55.

The real issue is pricing.I see in my Coin World mag from April that a '74-cc dime is supposed to be a $45K coin in AU50.No prices shown for higher grades.

1874-cc dime GTG

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