<< <i>Im becoming excited about the apathy in the PMs and the enthusiasm in equities. >>
Yep, the local shoeshine kid even agrees with you.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i>4 years ago the talk was of silver going to $75-150, now its about going to $8-10.
The volume of manipulation conspiracy rhetoric is also much lower than during the "shakedown" from 45-25. >>
Four years ago the fear was inflation, now its deflation.
The manipulation is there more so than before. Now that "emerging markets" and foreign currencies have been skillfully eliminated from the investment radar, gold is about the only thing that stands in the way of directing world wide investment money into US markets and US dollars. Gold is the final speed bump.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
Four years ago the fear was inflation, now its deflation.
Not for those "in the know".
And just as the inflation vs deflation idea was incorrect, so is this---
"The manipulation is there more so than before. Now that "emerging markets" and foreign currencies have been skillfully eliminated from the investment radar, gold is about the only thing that stands in the way of directing world wide investment money into US markets and US dollars"
I was listening to a program last night, and they were talking about this exact topic, to the letter ($8 silver and $800 gold). I think we will get there, but it is going to take time, and when we get there, we will never see those prices again.
<< <i>There's is minimal apathy in pm's, just a handful of people that bought phyz at plus $1500, and no huge market moving positions... >>
I only know one person that bought phyz at $1500 or higher on the way up (not me).... and then held it through the big decline in 2013. In reading around here you'd think EVERY gold buyer loaded up the truck from $1500-$1900.
The volume of manipulation conspiracy rhetoric is also much lower than during the "shakedown" from 45-25.
The volume of rhetoric is not really any lower. There's just no reason to keep on rehashing the same stuff that we've explained in detail from 2008-2013. No reason to keep repeating the same stuff. But to the fiat bug's credit, they keep on dredging up posts from 2011 to remind everyone.
The Chinese central bank needs to load up on gold. So until they get their 5,000-8,000 tonnes to earn a seat at the big boyz table, the world's CB's will continue to "assist in keeping the price under control." It's a win-win for the sovereigns. The Chinese have been building a huge "market moving position" in gold since before 2009. It's not to their advantage to publicly state what they have.... until they have it. They last reported in 2009. Rumor has it they will update in 2015. But, I'll believe that when I see it.
4 years ago the talk was of silver going to $75-150, now its about going to $8-10.
The volume of manipulation conspiracy rhetoric is also much lower than during the "shakedown" from 45-25.
You won't find a single instance where I made a remark like that. I've seen silver do it's thing before, and **everything** is circumstantial with silver.
If you think you can predict silver prices, I think you are mistaken - to put it lightly.
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<< <i>4 years ago the talk was of silver going to $75-150, now its about going to $8-10.
The volume of manipulation conspiracy rhetoric is also much lower than during the "shakedown" from 45-25.
You won't find a single instance where I made a remark like that. I've seen silver do it's thing before, and **everything** is circumstantial with silver.
If you think you can predict silver prices, I think you are mistaken - to put it lightly. >>
Wasnt speaking of you. My universe is much larger than this tiny little forum. Im ok with you thinking im mistaken. Its generally what makes me (un)mistaken.
<< <i>There's is minimal apathy in pm's, just a handful of people that bought phyz at plus $1500, and no huge market moving positions... >>
I only know one person that bought phyz at $1500 or higher on the way up (not me).... and then held it through the big decline in 2013. In reading around here you'd think EVERY gold buyer loaded up the truck from $1500-$1900.
The volume of manipulation conspiracy rhetoric is also much lower than during the "shakedown" from 45-25.
The volume of rhetoric is not really any lower. There's just no reason to keep on rehashing the same stuff that we've explained in detail from 2008-2013. No reason to keep repeating the same stuff. But to the fiat bug's credit, they keep on dredging up posts from 2011 to remind everyone.
The Chinese central bank needs to load up on gold. So until they get their 5,000-8,000 tonnes to earn a seat at the big boyz table, the world's CB's will continue to "assist in keeping the price under control." It's a win-win for the sovereigns. The Chinese have been building a huge "market moving position" in gold since before 2009. It's not to their advantage to publicly state what they have.... until they have it. They last reported in 2009. Rumor has it they will update in 2015. But, I'll believe that when I see it. >>
All one has to do is revisit "friday metal porn" on this forum and you will see many buyers of PMs at much higher prices. You think all those ads we heard on TV and radio were just to waste airtime? The mania was rampant and it obviously is much less today. Thats a good sign.
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Knowledge is the enemy of fear
<< <i>Im becoming excited about the apathy in the PMs and the enthusiasm in equities. >>
Yep, the local shoeshine kid even agrees with you.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i>
<< <i>Im becoming excited about the apathy in the PMs and the enthusiasm in equities. >>
Yep, the local shoeshine kid even agrees with you. >>
My excitement level just dropped 3 pegs.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
Frankly, I don't care.
I knew it would happen.
The volume of manipulation conspiracy rhetoric is also much lower than during the "shakedown" from 45-25.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
<< <i>4 years ago the talk was of silver going to $75-150, now its about going to $8-10.
The volume of manipulation conspiracy rhetoric is also much lower than during the "shakedown" from 45-25. >>
Four years ago the fear was inflation, now its deflation.
The manipulation is there more so than before. Now that "emerging markets" and foreign currencies have been skillfully eliminated from the investment radar, gold is about the only thing that stands in the way of directing world wide investment money into US markets and US dollars. Gold is the final speed bump.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
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Not for those "in the know".
And just as the inflation vs deflation idea was incorrect, so is this---
"The manipulation is there more so than before. Now that "emerging markets" and foreign currencies have been skillfully eliminated from the investment radar, gold is about the only thing that stands in the way of directing world wide investment money into US markets and US dollars"
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
<< <i>Never... >>
Never say never.
I was listening to a program last night, and they were talking about this exact topic, to the letter ($8 silver and $800 gold). I think we will get there, but it is going to take time, and when we get there, we will never see those prices again.
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<< <i>There's is minimal apathy in pm's, just a handful of people that bought phyz at plus $1500, and no huge market moving positions... >>
I only know one person that bought phyz at $1500 or higher on the way up (not me).... and then held it through the big decline in 2013. In reading around here you'd think EVERY gold buyer loaded up the truck from $1500-$1900.
The volume of manipulation conspiracy rhetoric is also much lower than during the "shakedown" from 45-25.
The volume of rhetoric is not really any lower. There's just no reason to keep on rehashing the same stuff that we've explained in detail from 2008-2013. No reason to keep repeating the same stuff. But to the fiat bug's credit, they keep on dredging up posts from 2011 to remind everyone.
The Chinese central bank needs to load up on gold. So until they get their 5,000-8,000 tonnes to earn a seat at the big boyz table, the world's CB's will continue to "assist in keeping the price under control." It's a win-win for the sovereigns. The Chinese have been building a huge "market moving position" in gold since before 2009. It's not to their advantage to publicly state what they have.... until they have it. They last reported in 2009. Rumor has it they will update in 2015. But, I'll believe that when I see it.
The volume of manipulation conspiracy rhetoric is also much lower than during the "shakedown" from 45-25.
You won't find a single instance where I made a remark like that. I've seen silver do it's thing before, and **everything** is circumstantial with silver.
If you think you can predict silver prices, I think you are mistaken - to put it lightly.
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>4 years ago the talk was of silver going to $75-150, now its about going to $8-10.
The volume of manipulation conspiracy rhetoric is also much lower than during the "shakedown" from 45-25.
You won't find a single instance where I made a remark like that. I've seen silver do it's thing before, and **everything** is circumstantial with silver.
If you think you can predict silver prices, I think you are mistaken - to put it lightly. >>
Wasnt speaking of you. My universe is much larger than this tiny little forum. Im ok with you thinking im mistaken. Its generally what makes me (un)mistaken.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
<< <i>
<< <i>There's is minimal apathy in pm's, just a handful of people that bought phyz at plus $1500, and no huge market moving positions... >>
I only know one person that bought phyz at $1500 or higher on the way up (not me).... and then held it through the big decline in 2013. In reading around here you'd think EVERY gold buyer loaded up the truck from $1500-$1900.
The volume of manipulation conspiracy rhetoric is also much lower than during the "shakedown" from 45-25.
The volume of rhetoric is not really any lower. There's just no reason to keep on rehashing the same stuff that we've explained in detail from 2008-2013. No reason to keep repeating the same stuff. But to the fiat bug's credit, they keep on dredging up posts from 2011 to remind everyone.
The Chinese central bank needs to load up on gold. So until they get their 5,000-8,000 tonnes to earn a seat at the big boyz table, the world's CB's will continue to "assist in keeping the price under control." It's a win-win for the sovereigns. The Chinese have been building a huge "market moving position" in gold since before 2009. It's not to their advantage to publicly state what they have.... until they have it. They last reported in 2009. Rumor has it they will update in 2015. But, I'll believe that when I see it. >>
All one has to do is revisit "friday metal porn" on this forum and you will see many buyers of PMs at much higher prices. You think all those ads we heard on TV and radio were just to waste airtime? The mania was rampant and it obviously is much less today. Thats a good sign.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear