Poll - is it the right thing to do to return accumulated substandard product to the Mint? (With pict
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The coins below were the worst of the worst from my recent buys of sets for grading.
There were some really good coins in the sets I purchased- including 1 holy grail coin - the S Mint 70 DMPL. But there were also some really bad coins, some shown below.
What's the right thing to do?
The S Mints - note stains on these two:
S Mint with heavy die polish
S Mint with pits on the right
Another spot at the Y:
Pits at right obv:
P Mint with big scratches at lips:
D-Mints with big pits:
There were some really good coins in the sets I purchased- including 1 holy grail coin - the S Mint 70 DMPL. But there were also some really bad coins, some shown below.
What's the right thing to do?
The S Mints - note stains on these two:
S Mint with heavy die polish
S Mint with pits on the right
Another spot at the Y:
Pits at right obv:
P Mint with big scratches at lips:
D-Mints with big pits:
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The Mint is a manufacturer, just like millions of other manufacturers in the world.
If a customer buys a product and it doesn't work as it should, they should be able to return it.
The Mint's main function is to produce circulating coinage, but they created a side business by minting coins for collectors.
If they can't produce collector quality coins, then customers should be able to return them.
Even way back in the 1960's with proof sets the Mint included those orange pieces of paper directing customers who weren't happy with the quality of their coins to return them to the Mint - and deep cameo proofs from those years were rarely produced.
But, personally I think the Mint has the right to limit sales and returns to certain customers that buy large quantities and return an unusually high percentage because it costs the Mint a lot of money to have cherrypickers return 90% of their order.
Your recourse should be with forum members, not the mint.
When ordered directly from the mint, I have returned a couple of really problem coins. I agree that people who return most of their coins because they are not 70s are abusing the system. It is not reasonable to expect the mint to produce 70s all the time.
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The pieces that you show in the photos are dreck, but if you were not the original buyer, I don't know that you really have any recourse. Look at the this way. If every secondary market buyer had a right to return anything for a specified period of time, that would leave the mint with giving them a market guarantee.
The mint should not and cannot be in the business of giving a market insurance policy for coins that don't turn out be flippers. That's not fair to other collectors. Yet if you leave returns open ended that is exactly what it would become.
<< <i>The mint should not and cannot be in the business of giving a market insurance policy for coins that don't turn out be flippers. That's not fair to other collectors. Yet if you leave returns open ended that is exactly what it would become. >>
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<< <i>The mint should not and cannot be in the business of giving a market insurance policy for coins that don't turn out be flippers. That's not fair to other collectors. Yet if you leave returns open ended that is exactly what it would become. >>
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for the mint to eat since IMO that's completely unacceptable in any way, no question about it.
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<< <i>To me the answer is 2 part. If the coin is simply not high grade due to hits on the surfaces then I'd eat it. If the coin came with spots, fingerprints, or foreign substances, then I'd send it back
for the mint to eat since IMO that's completely unacceptable in any way, no question about it. >>
Agree with the above.....WITH the caveat that it only applies when purchased directly from the mint by the person wanting to do the return.
Once you buy it 2nd-hand, then, imho, doing what is mentioned as an option in the OP is more on the shady side than the right side.
That's like buying a mattress from someone, finding out you don't like it because someone whizzed on it or slept naked on it, etc, and then deciding to buy the same thing from the mattress store and returning the whizzed on one.
Imho, you have a right to return, for whatever reason, anything you want to the mint THAT YOU PERSONALLY PURCHASED directly from the mint....not stuff you play a shell game with.
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<< <i>Agree with the above.....WITH the caveat that it only applies when purchased directly from the mint by the person wanting to do the return. >>
That too. I was thinking it but got distracted by kids doing homework when I was posting.
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