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  • SteveSteve Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭


    << <i>they are in transit >>



    I assume you shipped them this week. Can I also assume they went economy? If so, I'll add a couple more weeks to my request to show us the results by April 15th. Let's now shoot for "by May 1st". OK? Steveimage
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,782 ✭✭✭✭
    Yes, I'm looking forward to seeing what PCGS thinks of this coin.

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  • Darth5ohDarth5oh Posts: 124 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Any word yet? >>



    does anyone with a shred of Numismatic credibility think that this has even a 1% chance of ending well? >>



    Buffnixx - while I don’t claim to have a shred of numismatic credibility, I'm 99% certain you have a much better than 1%-chance this will turn out well. Ironically, I JUST received a submission back from PCGS - one of which was a carbon-spotted '36 Buffalo. I think this one is looks worse than yours:

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    My plan was to post-up some grades in a new thread, but when I saw this one I wanted to chime-in. I was quite concerned about several coins in this submission, and mostly for this ’36 buff... but let’s just say it did in-fact grade (PR) in the neighborhood you’re hoping for! Good luck!!
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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To Steve,
    Rest assured the results from PCGS will be included in this thread for all to see, whatever the results.
    You all have my word.
    buffnixx

    ((OK BUFFNIXX, Here we are on Wednesday, February 25th and during the past few weeks you have posted a number of threads here on the Coin Forum about these eight coins you will be sending off to PCGS for grading. Each has an interesting story and you have gotten a lot of attention here. So my question to you is very simple. Have you ACTUALLY sent the coins to PCGS yet for grading? If yes, have you received confirmation from PCGS that the coins have been received? We really wish you good luck in your attempts to get the coins graded BUT, to my mind, it should be more important to you and your own creditability to ACTUALLY respond to this Coin forum with the results from PCGS. I think a fair timeframe is by April 15th. Steve))
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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To Darth5oh

    Thanks so much for posting your 1936 buffalo, looks almost like a twin brother to the coin I got herein displayed from Great Southern. WAS YOUR NICKEL DEEMED TO BE "SATIN" OR "BRILLIANT". And over the
    years I have seen more than a few 1936 proof buffs with carbon spots, wonder why this is so? Don't
    recall seeing unc 1936's with carbon spotting though.

    Also can you post here what the verbiage actually was on the PCGS insert. Did it get like a PR60 grade
    with a qualifier of "carbon spots" or something else?

    regards,
    buffnixx
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  • Darth5ohDarth5oh Posts: 124 ✭✭
    OK Buffnixx - I'll just post it!, image

    "PCGS PR63 Brilliant" No other verbiage - no mention of the carbon-spots.

    EDIT: I should have mentioned - this coin looks better in the slab and appears to have some dark, reddish toning/color.
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  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    Really rooting for Buffnix! And looking forward to watching a particularly rude person in this thread eat a slice of humble pie.image
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  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Really rooting for Buffnix! And looking forward to watching a particularly rude person in this thread eat a slice of humble pie.image >>



    +1 image

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    to gycomgd

    "Really rooting for Buffnix! And looking forward to watching a particularly rude person in this thread eat a slice of humble pie."

    Thanks for the above response. I will personally supply the whip cream and cherry for his humble pie!
    I HAVE NO DOUBT HE WILL BE EATING IT!
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    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good luck with the submission!
  • Looking forward to the conclusion of this adventure. Buffs are one of my favorite US coins along with beautifully toned Morgans.
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The shipment of 8 coins is now at pcgs and I can actually see it thru this website. I will be checking it daily in a week or so and as soon as the grades are available to me all 8 will be posted, though this thread is only about 2 of them.
    Have never gotten truview pics but i did request them for the 1913 and 1936 nickels.

    And as soon as the coins are back i will be posting photos of the actual coins.
    buffnixx
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    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,166 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The shipment of 8 coins is now at pcgs and I can actually see it thru this website. I will be checking it daily in a week or so and as soon as the grades are available to me all 8 will be posted, though this thread is only about 2 of them.
    Have never gotten truview pics but i did request them for the 1913 and 1936 nickels.

    And as soon as the coins are back i will be posting photos of the actual coins.
    buffnixx >>



    You will be doing a lot of reloading if you think an economy submission is going to be ready in a week or two. If express, that's about right.
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    got my truview pics this morning and then koyneqwest informed me that my
    grades had been posted. this piece got proof-64 satin finish and the 13 type one
    i had in another thread got matte proof-64. So it was a great experince to say
    the least. Thanks much for everyones' input. When I get back from vacation
    next week i will update this thread with the truview pic and then the photo of
    the slab when i get it back
    buffnixx
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  • BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926
    Another great score, glad you didn't listen to the "Experts" telling you what a mistake you made.
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  • BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926


    << <i>

    << <i>Any word yet? >>



    does anyone with a shred of Numismatic credibility think that this has even a 1% chance of ending well? >>



    Yes
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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,936 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Any word yet? >>



    does anyone with a shred of Numismatic credibility think that this has even a 1% chance of ending well? >>



    Yes >>



    Impossible, it's well known that Crypto knows "everything"...

    Congrats, BUFFNIXX. image
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,936 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>to gycomgd

    "Really rooting for Buffnix! And looking forward to watching a particularly rude person in this thread eat a slice of humble pie."

    Thanks for the above response. I will personally supply the whip cream and cherry for his humble pie!
    I HAVE NO DOUBT HE WILL BE EATING IT! >>



    He should, but I'm sure he won't, because he's NEVER wrong. image

    Regardless of that particular poster and his spoutings -- well done, on believing in yourself, taking a chance and waiting for the results whether good or bad. You came out the clear winner here. image
  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations!!!
    So happy that you scored on this one!

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  • jclovescoinsjclovescoins Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats! I was cheering for you!
  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats Buffnixx,

    You scored a major coup on both of those coins and certainly snuffed out all of the snarky comments about your credibility.

    OINK
  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,430 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats! image I hope that a few of the members here that doubted you will man up now, calling crypto your crow is ready to eat.
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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,986 ✭✭✭✭✭
    WAY TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!imageimage
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  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    Wow! Congrats!

  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,782 ✭✭✭✭
    Hey, I called it the 36-P a proof on page 1. image

    The 13 was a bit of a surprise. Excellent job Tom!





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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweeeeet! Congrats! Great eye there!
  • SteveSteve Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    Congratulations BUFFNIXX. You were right on those two Buffalo nickels and deserve praise for your ability to pick them out as proofs. I also appreciate you agreeing to provide the results here. We look forward to seeing the results of all eight of the coins. Good Luck! Steveimage
  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    Where is Crypto79? I'm curious to know what lessons he's learned from the Buffnixx experience.
    Grade the coin not the plastic? Never underestimate a collector with a true passion for a series? That it pays to take a chance once in a while?
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was inclined to be negative but ignorance kept me unsure of the proof status

    But one is still a coin with spots. Otoh, it could still be a coup. I don't know.

    How big of a get is the spotted proof in it's current condition?

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  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I was inclined to be negative but ignorance kept me unsure of the proof status
    But one is still a coin with spots. Otoh, it could still be a coup. I don't know.
    How big of a get is the spotted proof in it's current condition? >>



    I think I can offer some fundamental help here. Check the price guides. Check recent sales on eBay, Heritage, etc.
    That piece is easily worth a thousand bucks, with no pushing to get it there.
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow. Score

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  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Proofs nickels of this era are common with carbon spotting. My 1940 Reverse of 1938 steps Jefferson proof has this carbon flecking and also resides in a PR64 holder. But I have had success removing carbon spots from proofs and business strikes with a pointy toothpick, a steady hand and under magnification. And I've had no problems getting them graded. There was a time when I realized I wasn't going to find some of those early modern proofs without some spotting. I'd like to say how easy those carbon spots come off but might leave me libel, like micro pieces of dirt or scum, brittle like and what is sometimes left is a needle point of speck. I have a book that says most spots form on top of the patina or it's just an extension of the toning process where it builds up and looks black. But on several occasions, I have pushed/moved a carbon spot or two, so to speak, off a coin..........when I had a more steady hand. But first, try this on a coin of little value and only with a toothpick and not a needle. Made that mistake early on a couple coins although one did holder........twice. image

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  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Very nice score!
    It's not luck, you made it happen.
    Congrats image
    Ed
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,782 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>GC are many things but stupid isn't one of them. >>




    Hmmm.... image








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  • Darth5ohDarth5oh Posts: 124 ✭✭


    << <i>... this piece got proof-64 satin finish...
    buffnixx >>



    Congrats!
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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,936 ✭✭✭✭
    Poor crypto. Where'd he go? LOLZ
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Very nice score!
    It's not luck, you made it happen.
    Congrats image >>



    I agree. Knowledge is power.
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As promised I am enclosing a picture of the slab. I was surprised it got 64 as I had expected 63.
    but i am not really complaining! And also the truview picture from pcgs. First time I have used the
    truview option and they are amazing!
    tom

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    Also here is the truview for the other proof buffalo I picked, the 1913 type one......

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,263 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats

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  • deltadimemandeltadimeman Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    way to go ! congrats
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow. Missed this the first time around. Congrats!

    Great call Shamika!
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All I can say is "GREAT JOB"!!!!!
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,389 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't mind the taste of humble pie and hope this thread isn't the reason for someone being banned. If our opinions get us banned because we don't measure up to a standard, where is this standard ?
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    to twosides2acoin

    Everyone should be entitled to their own opinion and none should be banned because of their opinion unless they are rude and offensive and certainly no one in this thread was.
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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    nice to see scarce american coins being identified aka reclaimed from the numismatic abyss to be collected and properly enjoyed through sweat, study/research and diligence. image
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