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Market Acceptable Toning? 1812 Bust Half Dollar ***GRADE POSTED***

The color is pretty wild on this circ Bustie, but is it too wild?

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like her, but what will PCGS say?

    The blue toning could be suspect.
  • YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice, but some of it looks a little too blue for my taste.
    Cool piece of history with that date!
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  • Looks good to me. If they are going to BB it they should provide a plausible doctor treatment that caused it.
  • I like the look and think it should grade no problem.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe it would grade as problem-free.
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  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,139 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it. I have seen many coins in old Anacs holders with that exact look.
    I always wondered if it was from the holder.
  • drddmdrddm Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice toning on that 1812 Brian. I don't think you'd have any problem selling that one, especially if PCGS puts it in a non details holder.

    Good luck with the submission image
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pretty much expected as secondary album toning. Should grade out as TomB said.
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love it ........ and PCGS should too!
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Looks good to me! Coingrats!
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  • bcdeluxebcdeluxe Posts: 209 ✭✭✭
    I love it.
  • ShortgapbobShortgapbob Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭
    That should grade out just fine.
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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Market acceptable yes
  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,784 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am ok with that look. I would think it will grade.
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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,380 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I like the look and think it should grade no problem. >>



    +1

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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looked okay to me before I read the responses. You should be fine; I would be surprised to see it bag for color.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it has a pretty good chance at being market-acceptable.

    Acceptable to me, in any event. Looks very nice. image

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  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks fine to me, I wouldn't hesitate to add to my collection.
  • I say it is market acceptable but something is causing me concern, I don't know what. Re toned after old cleaning, it is the heights of the colors that is bugging me as I have been looking at to many Morgans as of late and these tone differently. I do like the coin andthe blue color is appealing at least to my eyes.
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  • WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I vote a problem free grade -- however it might take 2 submissions (just for a little added torture).

    I personally think that color pattern would be very hard to cook.

    And I think the coin is absolutely fantastic looking.
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a coin that sat in an old Library of Coins album for a long time. I vote it will grade.
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That looks to be toning from storage either in a paper envelope or album (most likely).
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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The toning on that coin looks fine.
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The color is pretty wild on this circ Bustie, but is it too wild?

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    I agree. Go for it.

    Here it is with a little less wear.
    Lance.

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  • jomjom Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Assuming there are any other problems with the coin you can't see in the photo it should pass just fine. Another words it isn't the color that will fail it, IMO.

    jom
  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice half dollar all the way around!
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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a nice circ coin that spent some time in an old Wayte Raymond holder. That looks like classic WR album toning. Definitely market acceptable and a nice coin. Congrats.

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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like the double post glitch is acting up again... image

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think your coin is fine.
    I've got an 1814 with wilder toning than that, and I know for a fact in came from sitting for years in an old drawer.
    If I posted it on here, most everyone would flame it as AT. Heck I'd call it AT myself if I didn't know the history on it.
    For whatever reason, these busties just seem to tone up pretty in the right environment, much more easily so than say
    a walker.



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  • coinguy1989coinguy1989 Posts: 1,056 ✭✭
    It looks natural, and it should straight grade.
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,986 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. But, I think it's beautiful and I also think it'll grade just fine. Nice pick up!!
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  • OGDanOGDan Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's your new coins cousin from south of the border. Well technically it's old enough to be his grandpa. Let's just call him little primo.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think that this coin will get a grade, but I don't think that it is worth enough send in for grading. To me it is a Choice VF coin, and as such it's worth less than $200.
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  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I am suspicious of the way the blue shows on this one. The sequence of colors from the center of the coin out, appears to be off. For the grade, PCGS may well grade the coin. It is pretty.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looked OK when I bid on it. image
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  • okiedudeokiedude Posts: 646 ✭✭✭
    Obverse has a definite WR album look, as mentioned above. Reverse gives me a little cause for concern. The blue all the way into the shield somehow doesn't seems right. Pretty coin either way, I like it regardless.
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  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think that this coin will get a grade, but I don't think that it is worth enough send in for grading. To me it is a Choice VF coin, and as such it's worth less than $200. >>



    Probably worth a bit more than $200...Brian hasn't said what he paid though.
    If it grades at PCGS the value will go up enough to cover the grading fees and then some IMO, plus it makes it an easier sell.

    Late date CBH in VF, then I'd agree with you....an awful lot of those around, and the plastic won't help nearly so much.
  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well I definitely learned from this thread.

    When I first saw it, I was suspicious about the blue around the perimeter of the portrait, eagle and scroll.
    I thought it looked like a funny shade of blue, recent toning clinging to a relatively recent cleaning.

    That doesn't mean that I don't like the CBH.
    I do, but I would have put it in the nice but problem category.

    Based on the unanimous approval by others, it looks like you're in the clear. image

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  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,178 ✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I think that this coin will get a grade, but I don't think that it is worth enough send in for grading. To me it is a Choice VF coin, and as such it's worth less than $200. >>



    Probably worth a bit more than $200...Brian hasn't said what he paid though.
    If it grades at PCGS the value will go up enough to cover the grading fees and then some IMO, plus it makes it an easier sell.

    Late date CBH in VF, then I'd agree with you....an awful lot of those around, and the plastic won't help nearly so much. >>



    I paid $200 for it
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  • AthenaAthena Posts: 439 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Well I definitely learned from this thread.

    When I first saw it, I was suspicious about the blue around the perimeter of the portrait, eagle and scroll.
    I thought it looked like a funny shade of blue, recent toning clinging to a relatively recent cleaning.

    That doesn't mean that I don't like the CBH.
    I do, but I would have put it in the nice but problem category.

    Based on the unanimous approval by others, it looks like you're in the clear. image >>



    He may be in the clear for the toning, but what about the surfaces? I really can't tell if they are market acceptable from the provided images. image
  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭
    I think the patina looks fine. Looks like a vf meat bustie perhaps with XF luster.

    I'd have paid $200 for her in a heartbeat.
  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,178 ✭✭✭✭
    Decided to give this one a shot at grading after the favorable response here;

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    And the TrueView...

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  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,178 ✭✭✭✭
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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭
    awesome results there and sweet example

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  • jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭
    Gratz on the grade. Officially, it is a market acceptable beautifully toned coin image
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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats Brian, Beautiful coin with tons of character! Great eye kiddo image

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