<< <i>If Dez Bryant was Mike Trout and the football was a baseball, the batter would not be out. >>
Don't recall Mike Trout ever having a reason to advance a ball an additional two or three feet as Bryant did. >>
on the baseball angle if a player goes to the ground to catch a fly ball and rolls over and the ball comes out isn't it rule a hit not an out because in essence he didnt complete the process of the catch?
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Grote claims he knew call would be reversed before they reversed it!lol I'm sure he thought the catch before half was going to be reversed too but wasn't, even if it was Moot! Lol He is obviously a Cowboy hater while calling everybody else a Cowboy whiner. Lol He has been watching Football for 40 years so he knows it all! Lol He said Dallas was handed the game the week before on the Bad call but since Stafford Fumblef twice the next time he had the ball I think that call was as u would say moot! Lol Anybody who watched football for 40 years would know the Refs did not hand Dallas the game the Lions did! Maybe you should stick with watching baseball!!😛lol
10 pages! Wow. We need a couple of new football games to complain about.
Seriously though, i would hate to see another week of controversial calls deciding who goes..to the superbowl.
As the late, great Chuck Knoll has said.."you gotta outplay the refs." to paraphrase. Dont leave it close enough where the ref, a bad call determines your fate.
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Scottie, I'd respond to your incoherent post but it's fairly apparent you've had at least a couple of glasses of what the women in your avatar are drinking. That, or you're just another disgruntled Cowboy fan struggling to come to terms with playoff elimination.
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Grote-I'm not a disgruntle Cowboys fan. I think Dallas had a Great year and have a Great future ahead of them. I said before,they lost the game at right before half,Murray's fumble and not stopping Rodgers in the 2nd half. Even if it was a catch and they scored, Rodgers would have drove them down the field for winning score. My question to you is did the ball hit the ground when GB had it before half? Please answer even if it's moot? By the way, what team do you root for?
FYI...my last three posts took at least an hour to post..from "enter" to being seen. Hence, my last post said " 10 pages, wow" But didn't post until a little ways down pg 11. This was over the last 2-3 days. Not a big deal. Just an FYI.
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<< <i>Grote-I'm not a disgruntle Cowboys fan. I think Dallas had a Great year and have a Great future ahead of them. I said before,they lost the game at right before half,Murray's fumble and not stopping Rodgers in the 2nd half. Even if it was a catch and they scored, Rodgers would have drove them down the field for winning score. My question to you is did the ball hit the ground when GB had it before half? Please answer even if it's moot? By the way, what team do you root for? >>
And I have been one of Romo's biggest supporters even while he was being unfairly raked over the coals by many his own fans. I certainly don't "hate" the Cowboys. I don't have any real emotion for any team, as those guys are making a lot more money than I do. I focus on winning my fantasy football championship each season~I have no allegiance to any one team. I just enjoy watching football. If I were pressed to name a team I pull for, it would be my hometown Jets, but if my fantasy QB is playing the Jets, I root for him to light them up like a Christmas tree.
The first pass to Cobb before the half (the shorter one, IIRC about 8 yeards) should have been overturned, but the second one, longer, and more important one was definitely a catch and GB was going to get a FG on that drive even if those 8 yards from the first reception were called back, imo..
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Thank you Grote!
<< <i>Like I said, I watched it many times, and I'm convinced that Bryant has no clue where he is in relation to the pylon. >>
All good and even mediocre receivers always know where the pylon/goal line is.
Thank you. The second one was clearly a catch I'm not sure what the other guy was watching! My point of the question is Everybody saw it but still upheld? Mike P., Buck and all my buddies couldn't believe it wasn't overturned with clear evidence. My friends Hate Dallas so it's not bias. I think that's what had people baffled is why can't they get that call right with clearly ball hitting ground and overturning a call that ref said was good. I know replay is not perfect but ball clearly hitting ground they need to get right.
<< <i>If Dez Bryant was Mike Trout and the football was a baseball, the batter would not be out. >>
Don't recall Mike Trout ever having a reason to advance a ball an additional two or three feet as Bryant did. >>
He should have caught it first. He never completed the entire process to justify it as a catch as per the rules.
No catch.
MJ >>
That is where the gray area comes in. He did catch the ball and make four football moves attempting to score after the catch, and it is only after all of that where the ball hit the ground. The football rules do not clearly exempt this from being a catch(as per making football moves). The rule definition of a football move can certainly be seen in this catch. As I pointed out, he made four clear football moves. He actually took three steps. You say they weren't steps, but the process of landing. That is debatable, because they were strides, rather long strides to boot.
Then the turning toward the goal line, the lunge, divot, and arm raising to go over the goal line.
The replay officials missed focusing on this aspect of the rule, and instead focused on the ball hitting the ground aspect.
Also, the on field ref ruled it a catch, so it should be indisputable evidence that it wasn't. There was no indisputable evidence to say it wasn't a football move that he made(of which he made four). The call should have nothing to even do with the ground. >>
Football moves aren't even part of the discussion. Folks who don't know the rule mistakenly make all kinds of arguments regarding football moves. The rule says if you're going to the ground while making the catch - which he indisputably was - you gotta hang onto the ball. He didn't. It really is that simple. And that's why there was indisputable video evidence for an overturn.
<< <i>Football moves aren't even part of the discussion. Folks who don't know the rule mistakenly make all kinds of arguments regarding football moves. The rule says if you're going to the ground while making the catch - which he indisputably was - you gotta hang onto the ball. He didn't. It really is that simple. And that's why there was indisputable video evidence for an overturn. >>
Seems to be a bad rule to me. Once a player has possession of the ball, dropping it after hitting the ground should not cause it to be incomplete or a fumble.
In this case a tremendous catch was negated and the fans got cheated. I am NOT a Dallas fan.
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Looks like the NFL met with the many teams and the Cowboys in particular to discuss rules and focusing on the Calvin Johnson rule. It was an incomplete pass.
NFL vice president of officiating Dean Blandino paid a visit to the Dallas Cowboys this summer, and this time around it wasn't for the purpose of partying with coeds outside a Los Angeles nightclub. Instead, the topic of conversation centered on Dez Bryant's controversial no-catch.
If you're outside the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex, there's a chance you forgot about the season-ending play, so we'll refresh your memory. Trailing 26-21 on fourth-and-2 from Green Bay's 32 with 4:42 remaining in the NFC divisional playoff round, Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo appeared to find a streaking Bryant down the left sideline for a spectacular circus catch that set up a first-and-goal.
Except, Packers coach Mike McCarthy's challenge and the Calvin Johnson Rule ultimately reversed the original call and essentially ended the Cowboys' season. By the letter of the law, Bryant did not maintain control of the ball throughout the catch, despite taking multiple steps before the ground knocked the ball loose, and Green Bay milked the clock on its ensuing possession to move onto the NFC title game.
As controversy raged over the call, Blandino explained the officiating crew's decision on Twitter.
Bryant going to the ground. By rule he must hold onto it throughout entire process of contacting the ground. He didn't so it is incomplete. — Dean Blandino (@DeanBlandino) January 11, 2015
According to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, Blandino met with the Cowboys this offseason — including "lengthy discussions" with Cowboys vice president and NFL competition committee member Stephen Jones — to clarify the league's stance on the play that cost Dallas a chance at the Super Bowl.
“Not a catch,” Blandino said Friday at the NFL officiating clinic in Irving. “We went through that process with the committee. Didn’t change the rule. Tried to clarify it. We really feel that the way the rule is written now, the way it’s being applied, allows us to be as consistent as possible.”
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“The message to the coaches and players — because we’ve gone out and visited with every staff — is if you’re falling to the ground to make the catch, then you have to maintain the control when you land,” Blandino said. “And if you reach or do anything with the football, that’s not going to trump that requirement to maintain control.”
Blandino told the Star-Telegram he does not always address such matters in person with every team, but, "I wanted to make sure that I was in Dallas this year, because obviously it was a controversial play."
You may recall Blandino and Jones also found themselves embroiled in controversy last summer, when a TMZ video showed them hanging out with Cowboys owner Jerry Jones (Stephen's father) on a bus parked along L.A.'s Sunset Strip — a perceived conflict of interest that many teams took umbrage with.
Now, if only Blandino and Jones would drive the party bus to New England, pick up NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and Patriots owner Robert Kraft and embark on a traveling controversy tour this summer.
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<< <i>If Dez Bryant was Mike Trout and the football was a baseball, the batter would not be out. >>
Don't recall Mike Trout ever having a reason to advance a ball an additional two or three feet as Bryant did. >>
on the baseball angle if a player goes to the ground to catch a fly ball and rolls over and the ball comes out isn't it rule a hit not an out because in essence he didnt complete the process of the catch?
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Seriously though, i would hate to see another week of controversial calls deciding who goes..to the superbowl.
As the late, great Chuck Knoll has said.."you gotta outplay the refs." to paraphrase. Dont leave it close enough where the ref, a bad call determines your fate.
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<< <i>Exploratory post as I cannot see the later posts.......maybe when it gets to 200. >>
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<< <i>Grote-I'm not a disgruntle Cowboys fan. I think Dallas had a Great year and have a Great future ahead of them. I said before,they lost the game at right before half,Murray's fumble and not stopping Rodgers in the 2nd half. Even if it was a catch and they scored, Rodgers would have drove them down the field for winning score. My question to you is did the ball hit the ground when GB had it before half? Please answer even if it's moot? By the way, what team do you root for? >>
And I have been one of Romo's biggest supporters even while he was being unfairly raked over the coals by many his own fans. I certainly don't "hate" the Cowboys. I don't have any real emotion for any team, as those guys are making a lot more money than I do. I focus on winning my fantasy football championship each season~I have no allegiance to any one team. I just enjoy watching football. If I were pressed to name a team I pull for, it would be my hometown Jets, but if my fantasy QB is playing the Jets, I root for him to light them up like a Christmas tree.
The first pass to Cobb before the half (the shorter one, IIRC about 8 yeards) should have been overturned, but the second one, longer, and more important one was definitely a catch and GB was going to get a FG on that drive even if those 8 yards from the first reception were called back, imo..
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<< <i>Exploratory post as I cannot see the later posts.......maybe when it gets to 200. >>
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Thank you Grote!
<< <i>Like I said, I watched it many times, and I'm convinced that Bryant has no clue where he is in relation to the pylon. >>
All good and even mediocre receivers always know where the pylon/goal line is.
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<< <i>If Dez Bryant was Mike Trout and the football was a baseball, the batter would not be out. >>
Don't recall Mike Trout ever having a reason to advance a ball an additional two or three feet as Bryant did. >>
He should have caught it first. He never completed the entire process to justify it as a catch as per the rules.
No catch.
MJ >>
That is where the gray area comes in. He did catch the ball and make four football moves attempting to score after the catch, and it is only after all of that where the ball hit the ground. The football rules do not clearly exempt this from being a catch(as per making football moves). The rule definition of a football move can certainly be seen in this catch. As I pointed out, he made four clear football moves. He actually took three steps. You say they weren't steps, but the process of landing. That is debatable, because they were strides, rather long strides to boot.
Then the turning toward the goal line, the lunge, divot, and arm raising to go over the goal line.
The replay officials missed focusing on this aspect of the rule, and instead focused on the ball hitting the ground aspect.
Also, the on field ref ruled it a catch, so it should be indisputable evidence that it wasn't. There was no indisputable evidence to say it wasn't a football move that he made(of which he made four). The call should have nothing to even do with the ground. >>
Football moves aren't even part of the discussion. Folks who don't know the rule mistakenly make all kinds of arguments regarding football moves. The rule says if you're going to the ground while making the catch - which he indisputably was - you gotta hang onto the ball. He didn't. It really is that simple. And that's why there was indisputable video evidence for an overturn.
<< <i>Football moves aren't even part of the discussion. Folks who don't know the rule mistakenly make all kinds of arguments regarding football moves. The rule says if you're going to the ground while making the catch - which he indisputably was - you gotta hang onto the ball. He didn't. It really is that simple. And that's why there was indisputable video evidence for an overturn. >>
Seems to be a bad rule to me. Once a player has possession of the ball, dropping it after hitting the ground should not cause it to be incomplete or a fumble.
In this case a tremendous catch was negated and the fans got cheated. I am NOT a Dallas fan.
NFL met with the Cowboys
NFL vice president of officiating Dean Blandino paid a visit to the Dallas Cowboys this summer, and this time around it wasn't for the purpose of partying with coeds outside a Los Angeles nightclub. Instead, the topic of conversation centered on Dez Bryant's controversial no-catch.
If you're outside the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex, there's a chance you forgot about the season-ending play, so we'll refresh your memory. Trailing 26-21 on fourth-and-2 from Green Bay's 32 with 4:42 remaining in the NFC divisional playoff round, Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo appeared to find a streaking Bryant down the left sideline for a spectacular circus catch that set up a first-and-goal.
Except, Packers coach Mike McCarthy's challenge and the Calvin Johnson Rule ultimately reversed the original call and essentially ended the Cowboys' season. By the letter of the law, Bryant did not maintain control of the ball throughout the catch, despite taking multiple steps before the ground knocked the ball loose, and Green Bay milked the clock on its ensuing possession to move onto the NFC title game.
As controversy raged over the call, Blandino explained the officiating crew's decision on Twitter.
Bryant going to the ground. By rule he must hold onto it throughout entire process of contacting the ground. He didn't so it is incomplete.
— Dean Blandino (@DeanBlandino) January 11, 2015
According to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, Blandino met with the Cowboys this offseason — including "lengthy discussions" with Cowboys vice president and NFL competition committee member Stephen Jones — to clarify the league's stance on the play that cost Dallas a chance at the Super Bowl.
“Not a catch,” Blandino said Friday at the NFL officiating clinic in Irving. “We went through that process with the committee. Didn’t change the rule. Tried to clarify it. We really feel that the way the rule is written now, the way it’s being applied, allows us to be as consistent as possible.”
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“The message to the coaches and players — because we’ve gone out and visited with every staff — is if you’re falling to the ground to make the catch, then you have to maintain the control when you land,” Blandino said. “And if you reach or do anything with the football, that’s not going to trump that requirement to maintain control.”
Blandino told the Star-Telegram he does not always address such matters in person with every team, but, "I wanted to make sure that I was in Dallas this year, because obviously it was a controversial play."
You may recall Blandino and Jones also found themselves embroiled in controversy last summer, when a TMZ video showed them hanging out with Cowboys owner Jerry Jones (Stephen's father) on a bus parked along L.A.'s Sunset Strip — a perceived conflict of interest that many teams took umbrage with.
Now, if only Blandino and Jones would drive the party bus to New England, pick up NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and Patriots owner Robert Kraft and embark on a traveling controversy tour this summer.
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This thread is proof that Dime got a free 5 year pass. He should have been booted for posting this
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