There are no dumb questions, New Year immunity thread!!!

MGLICKER

In numismatics, no one knows everything, well except for a couple of members.

This is a good time to ask away on those seemingly simple questions that you really do not know the answer to.

I will add a few as the thread progresses.

PerryHall

Why do some people insist on calling coins produced after July 4, 1776 colonial coins? We stopped being a colony when we declared our independence.

pcunix

Why doesn't PCGS automatically photograph all certs?

PollywogRancher

Perhaps because the Constitution wasn't ratified until 1787.

Gotcha! Just picked up a few years there

PollywogRancher

Because photographing a million MS69 ASE's would drive the staff to mass suicide

MGLICKER

Why has no one fashioned a bottle opener using a die cut silver dollar.

PollywogRancher

<< <i>Why has no one fashioned a bottle opener using a die cut silver dollar. >>



I'm sure that someone has only to discover that silver being a horribly soft metal wouldn't work prying a steel cap more than once or twice.


basic Metalurgy 101

mercurydimeguy

What is the going market price for a common PCGS MS65 CAC Saint?

MGLICKER

Why does Ebay no longer care whether I ever sell another coin, but badgers me daily to sell my I Phone?





Like to see Woggy answer this one!

winky

Like I said before-----Bash ebay, Bash ebay!!!!!

PollywogRancher

<< <i>Why does Ebay no longer care whether I ever sell another coin, but badgers me daily to sell my I Phone?





Like to see Woggy answer this one! >>



Even a modest individual of my sheer brilliance is unable to comprehend the thoughts, direction, and execution of whatever "fluid" business plan that happens to be in force on any particular day within that organization. How can one truly answer 'the why' of a lunatic asylum run by the inmates? We would be far better off, both as sellers and buyers, if the day to day management team was structured along the lines of a Bulgarian soviet committee of workers and peasants. Not a satisfactory answer I know, but nothing that any happy ebayer doesn't already know.

PollywogRancher

<< <i>Why does Ebay no longer care whether I ever sell another coin, but badgers me daily to sell my I Phone?





Like to see Woggy answer this one! >>




Even a modest individual of my sheer brilliance is unable to comprehend the thoughts, direction, and execution of whatever "fluid" business plan that happens to be in force on any particular day within that organization. How can one truly answer 'the why' of a lunatic asylum run by the inmates? We would be far better off, both as sellers and buyers, if the day to day management team was structured along the lines of a Bulgarian soviet committee of workers and peasants. Not a satisfactory answer, but nothing that any happy ebayer doesn't already know.

PollywogRancher

ricko

Why is environmental damage (tarnish) treasured and yet AT (artificial tarnish) is detested?? Cheers, RickO

ms70

<< <i>Why do some people insist on calling coins produced after July 4, 1776 colonial coins? We stopped being a colony when we declared our independence. >>



I guess because we didn't start producing coinage as a single nation from a U.S. Mint until 1792.

PollywogRancher

<< <i>Why is environmental damage (tarnish) treasured and yet AT (artificial tarnish) is detested?? Cheers, RickO >>



Marketing fashion trends and the control thereof. Anyone old enough to remember when blast white was the fashion du jour? Perhaps the pendulum will swing back, if anyone will still collect coins then.

PerryHall

<< <i>Perhaps because the Constitution wasn't ratified until 1787.

Gotcha! Just picked up a few years there >>



We were a country before the Constitution. Ever hear of the Articles of Confederation? Why do we celebrate the 4th of July every year as the nation's birthday?

PollywogRancher

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<< <i>Why do some people insist on calling coins produced after July 4, 1776 colonial coins? We stopped being a colony when we declared our independence. >>



I guess because we didn't start producing coinage as a single nation from a U.S. Mint until 1792. >>



After the last state ratified it in 1790 or 91

PerryHall

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<< <i>Why do some people insist on calling coins produced after July 4, 1776 colonial coins? We stopped being a colony when we declared our independence. >>



I guess because we didn't start producing coinage as a single nation from a U.S. Mint until 1792. >>



What does that have to do with the US being a colony or not being a colony? Ever hear of the 1787 Fugio cents produced by a private contractor for the US government?

PerryHall

Why do coin collectors insist on calling the cent a penny when they should know better?

PollywogRancher

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<< <i>Perhaps because the Constitution wasn't ratified until 1787.

Gotcha! Just picked up a few years there >>



We were a country before the Constitution. Ever hear of the Articles of Confederation? Why do we celebrate the 4th of July every year as the nation's birthday? >>



All the states had to ratify (see above posts)

Why July 4th? That's when the ball got rolling even though many did not sign until August. It's kinda like December 25th as the birth of Jesus

That ought to garner another 100+ posts to this thread

C0INB0Y

<< <i>Because photographing a million MS69 ASE's would drive the staff to mass suicide >>



Good Point

PerryHall

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<< <i>Perhaps because the Constitution wasn't ratified until 1787.

Gotcha! Just picked up a few years there >>



We were a country before the Constitution. Ever hear of the Articles of Confederation? Why do we celebrate the 4th of July every year as the nation's birthday? >>



All the states had to ratify (see above posts)

Why July 4th? That's when the ball got rolling even though many did not sign until August. It's kinda like December 25th as the birth of Jesus

That ought to garner another 100+ posts to this thread >>



Okay. If you insist, the individual states were no longer colonies after July 4, 1776. We did have the Articles of Confederation which loosely united the individual states.

garrynot

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<< <i>Perhaps because the Constitution wasn't ratified until 1787.

Gotcha! Just picked up a few years there >>



We were a country before the Constitution. Ever hear of the Articles of Confederation? Why do we celebrate the 4th of July every year as the nation's birthday? >>



It's a misnomer. It's easier to say than saying it's the day we declared independence. John Adams insisted that the correct date was July 2. That was the day the vote occurred. July 4 was the date that signing started. Jefferson, who kept a detailed journal, supposedly had no entry on July 4, except that he recorded he bought some gloves and books.

oih82w8

If there were 484,000 1909-S VDB Lincoln cents produced (or any other key date) why does a variety with a significantly less known availability worth so much less?

1892-O 25C FS-901 (unique in PCGS)

PerryHall

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<< <i>Because photographing a million MS69 ASE's would drive the staff to mass suicide >>



Good Point >>



Just photograph one coin and use it for all of them. At that lofty grade I doubt that the subtle differences between any MS69 ASE's would even be visible in a picture.

pmac

<< <i>Why do coin collectors insist on calling the cent a penny when they should know better? >>


Have you ever read some of the 1c wrappers? Some say penny. There is ignorance even with professionals.

Musky1011

Is this the post for no dumb questions?

TwoSides2aCoin

Immunity or amnesty ?

claychaser

What are there no counter-stamped steel cents or war nickels?

PerryHall

Which coin is more attractive from an artistic viewpoint---the Morgan Dollar or the Peace Dollar?

MGLICKER

Why do professional football players insist on calling heads or tails at the coin flip, rather than the proper obverse or reverse.

PerryHall

<< <i>Why do professional football players insist on calling heads or tails at the coin flip, rather than the proper obverse or reverse. >>



They're not coin collectors or perhaps too many head injuries.

Great idea for a thread by the way. Sure to hit 300 posts since there is no shortage of "no dumb questions".

Davideo

<< <i>If there were 484,000 1909-S VDB Lincoln cents produced (or any other key date) why does a variety with a significantly less known availability worth so much less?

1892-O 25C FS-901 (unique in PCGS) >>



Demand. Probably the majority of collectors want a 1909-S VDB and hardly anyone cares about a 1892-O FS-901 quarter.

Davideo

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<< <i>Perhaps because the Constitution wasn't ratified until 1787.

Gotcha! Just picked up a few years there >>



We were a country before the Constitution. Ever hear of the Articles of Confederation? Why do we celebrate the 4th of July every year as the nation's birthday? >>



All the states had to ratify (see above posts)

Why July 4th? That's when the ball got rolling even though many did not sign until August. It's kinda like December 25th as the birth of Jesus

That ought to garner another 100+ posts to this thread >>



Okay. If you insist, the individual states were no longer colonies after July 4, 1776. We did have the Articles of Confederation which loosely united the individual states. >>



From England's perspective, the date would probably be October 19, 1781 when Cornwallis surrendered. Before that we were just poorly behaved colonies.

EagleEye

What is the true grade of the coin - what is on the holder or what it is in your mind, based on the accepted grading standards.

BLUEJAYWAY

I'll play. Why is the 1922-D Lincoln referred to as a 22-P when missing the D. Cent was still minted at Denver. Could it be referred to as a 22-D missing the D?Probably semantics.

Mission16

Why do you park on a driveway and drive on a parkway?

PerryHall

<< <i>I'll play. Why is the 1922-D Lincoln referred to as a 22-P when missing the D. Cent was still minted at Denver. Could it be referred to as a 22-D missing the D?Probably semantics. >>



I've heard it referred to as the 1922 Plain.

OldEastside

If they ever put a Kardashian on a coin, would the tails side be a larger diameter than the heads side ???

Steve

DollarAfterDollar

Who's the genius who decided a red cent should be valued greater than a beautiful shiny brown one?

WoodenJefferson

On a smooth level surface, how far will a 1893-S Morgan silver dollar in XF-45 condition roll, before falling over or coming to a complete stop while still standing on it's edge?

Control roller: Pete Weber (Professional bowler, son of Dick Weber)

Type2

Why do most of are coins back in the day look like men?

Boosibri

<< <i>Why is environmental damage (tarnish) treasured and yet AT (artificial tarnish) is detested?? Cheers, RickO >>



Ricko, did you know it comes in gallons?

ricko

Yes I did Boosibri........but I do not use it....I just look for well preserved coins...

And, I did think the answer to my question was rather weak....
Cheers, RickO

johnny9434

<< <i>Why do coin collectors insist on calling the cent a penny when they should know better? >>

dont sweat the small things, its what makes them happy (fwiw)

MGLICKER

Are dealers more successful when there first name is an initial?

duki

Why, when i get i coin from ebay, is the original price on the flip blacked out and replaced with some other price?

Athena

<< <i>Why do most of are coins back in the day look like men? >>



And why do most young "men" today look, and often act, like women?

AUandAG

I just want to know where is Judy?

I miss her at ebay.....

bob

Boosibri

<< <i>Yes I did Boosibri........but I do not use it....I just look for well preserved coins...

And, I did think the answer to my question was rather weak....
Cheers, RickO >>



My quick answer to your question?..

NT coins have escaped the generations of collectors, investors and everything in between who have sought to improve, preserve, and otherwise manipulate coins as they go through the aging process. Save for a few select specimens, 100+ year old silver I don't think should be bright white anymore so than I expect to look like I do now in 50 years. The Dukes Creek Collection comes to mind in Dahlonega gold. So sad.

AT coins try and mask history and are mascarading as one of those select specimens which have had their surfaces preserved. Granted, many of the monster toners which are in problem free holders probably had help along the way.