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Did no one see Pawn Stars this past Monday with the 1922 Peace High Relief

It was NGC 61 and it sold to Rick for $65k.


Did anyone catch that? I searched and didn't see any posts.


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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    saw it and thought he overpaid.......nah,

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  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭
    I saw it and enjoyed it.
    Didn't really know much about it so learned something.

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  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Check out Lot No. 4211 at the FUN Auction bidding January 7.

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,734 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Check out Lot No. 4211 at the FUN Auction bidding January 7.

    OINK >>



    Is that same coin? 25K so far..

    ETA: I'm assuming so since he will be at the convention, lol..


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  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭✭
    $80k? Isn't that a bit much?
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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PCGS price guide price is $200,000 in PR64, no other prices for lower grades.

    If I was RICK and had $80,000 wrapped up in a coin I wouldn't want it on TV showing everyone what I paid for it but maybe Rick already sold it?

    In that case I,,,,, as the new owner selling it would not want that price known either. image

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  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let me call a friend to see if he saw it!
  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is a scripted show...
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It is a scripted show... >>



    ALL 'reality' shows are scripted....Cheers, RickO
  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,008 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>PCGS price guide price is $200,000 in PR64, no other prices for lower grades.

    If I was RICK and had $65,000 wrapped up in a coin I wouldn't want it on TV showing everyone what I paid for it but maybe Rick already sold it?

    In that case I,,,,, as the new owner selling it would not want that price known either. image

    GrandAm image >>




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  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You don't think the airing of the show was timed to generate interest?

    It is now slabbed in the 'special' NGC "Gold & Silver Pawn On-Air Collection" label!

    And people thought the "I was slabbed in a hotel room late at night by overtired graders" label was special [ANA Gold Kennedy]!

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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Flipping through the channels, it caught my eye. Interesting segment ...

    The guy won it in a poker game. Yeah, sure.

    Wanted $20K for it and then Rick told him it was worth a lot more. Um ... right. Within minutes on the Internet and anyone would know it's worth a lot more. Was this an attempt to make Rick seem like an honorable guy?

    Called an expert to verify the NGC certified coin. Was he afraid it was in a counterfeit holder?

    His "buddy" shows up and it's David Vagi ... WTH? Don't get me wrong, David is great with ancients (and an all-around bright guy), but why him as the "expert" for a modern coin?

    Come on, guys ... make the segment at least somewhat believable! (yeah, I know it's scripted ... but get better writers!)



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  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,787 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I saw it and Rick paid $80,000.
    Trade $'s
  • theumptheump Posts: 634 ✭✭
    Is my memory that bad? Jeez, coulda swore he paid $65k. Maybe that was the opening offer. Yeah thats it. Jeez. I am old.
  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>It is a scripted show... >>



    ALL 'reality' shows are scripted....Cheers, RickO >>



    Still fun to watch....just as other TV shows, movies, plays and other forms of entertainment are all scripted.
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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,328 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The old cliche about never taking the first offer... I would have offered him a bit less than the $20K asking...people should have somewhat of an idea of what they are selling.

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  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    It has the Gold & Silver Pawn Pedigree. Photo of their sign on the holder, too.

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  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    It looked harshly cleaned. I don't think I would spend that kind of money on a cleaned coin. They never really bought that coin- it's just a show. They even advertise for people with unique items to be on the show.
  • MercuryMercury Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭
    On another recent show Rick bought a Daniel Carr 1964 Peace Dollar for $200
    Collecting Peace Dollars and Modern Crap.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,332 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Flipping through the channels, it caught my eye. Interesting segment ...

    The guy won it in a poker game. Yeah, sure.

    Wanted $20K for it and then Rick told him it was worth a lot more. Um ... right. Within minutes on the Internet and anyone would know it's worth a lot more. Was this an attempt to make Rick seem like an honorable guy?

    Called an expert to verify the NGC certified coin. Was he afraid it was in a counterfeit holder?

    His "buddy" shows up and it's David Vagi ... WTH? Don't get me wrong, David is great with ancients (and an all-around bright guy), but why him as the "expert" for a modern coin?

    Come on, guys ... make the segment at least somewhat believable! (yeah, I know it's scripted ... but get better writers!) >>



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  • ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭
    I ran the genuine Ted Nugent Gibson guitar by the Pawn Stars gang before the raffle.....zero interest, nada, nothing. I am not sure of their protocols or criteria but still, an entertaining show if you take it for what it is......entertainment
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  • DeepCoinDeepCoin Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭
    Good place to 30% less than wholesale value for something... there is a reason they are in business and it is NOT to give fair value, not profit for them there.
    Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The episode name is "Generation Gap" 2014 S8/E115 and is on tonight

    I am surprised they didn't want even a stab at Nugent's geetar. Not big enough? Controversy?

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  • DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭
    A nice buy for Rick.

    Hammered at $85k, $99,875 with the juice

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  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just happened to see it while channel surfing and thought it looked polished or buffed, but just figured it was only because I was seeing it on a TV screen. image
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  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭
    "I am surprised they didn't want even a stab at Nugent's geetar. Not big enough? Controversy?"

    Terrible Ted plays State Fairs and Indian Casino's. He's great but I'd rather have a signed Tom Morello Guitar, well Django Reinhardt but are any of those around?
  • ExbritExbrit Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭✭
    The star of the a popular History Channel show added a touch of celebrity to Heritage's Jan. 7 Platinum Night auction at the Florida United Numismatists show in Orlando.

    Rick Harrison of Pawn Stars fame could be spotted at the midpoint of the auction as he watched a Proof 1922 Peace, High Relief dollar that crossed the counter at his shop bring just shy of $100,000, selling for $99,875.

    The piece appeared in a Dec. 23, 2014, episode of the series. Numismatic Guaranty Corp. grader David Vagi assisted Harrison in the segment, quoting the value as “something north of 50, but less than a 100 [thousand].”

    The man who sold the coin originally won it in a poker game. He thought that the coin’s value was around $20,000 and sold the coin to Harrison for $80,000.

    The lot description cites researcher Roger Burdette’s estimate that around five to 10 Proof 1922 Peace, High Relief dollars were produced with a “Sandblast” Finish and these have two diagnostics. Specifically, “All obverses have the point of the bust sharply [overlying] the 9 in the date. The reverses all have a small defect in the area between the eagle’s talon and the leg and the olive branch; the rays are rounded.”

    The 1922 Peace dollar features a relief similar to that found on the 1921 Peace dollars, and was struck during the Philadelphia Mint’s continuing experiments on the coin. The relief was reduced on circulation strikes starting in 1922.

    The coin is housed in an NGC holder reading “Gold and Silver Pawn” and “On Air Collection.”

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  • ExbritExbrit Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭✭
    I wonder if Heritage gave Rick a break on the premiums.


  • << <i>Let me call a friend to see if he saw it! >>



    Let me call in a buddy of mine, he can tell if you really typed this.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    He says a 2014 Gold Kennedy NGC 69 is worth $1,600 - so he knows what's going on.image
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rick sat right behind me in the Heritage auction room and so much filming was done was done of him and me!

    I did not even know who he was and then they asked me to sign a waiver. I did not even know what they were talking about!

    Then they took pictures of me holding a casting sheet.

    I was hooked and felt like a star! LOL.

    Then Rick and I took a selfie and he was really OK that I did not even know who he was!!

    If anyone wants to see the pics, I will post them here!

    Apparently the filming will be used for a future episode of his show.

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  • KyleKyle Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If anyone wants to see the pics, I will post them here! >>


    Sure, Post away.
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  • << <i>

    << <i>It is a scripted show... >>



    ALL 'reality' shows are scripted....Cheers, RickO >>



    Pawn Stars is not technically "scripted". But the sellers featured on the show aren't people who just walk in off the street. You have to apply and your item approved to be featured. It has to be that way. Otherwise, the cameraman, sound guy, and producer would have to be around the shop all time to catch the rare instance when someone comes in with something interesting enough to put on TV.

    I suspect that some of the interactions between Rick, the Old Man, Corey, and Chum are instigated by the producer. But again, that's all ad-lib. There's no "script".
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  • The proof Peace dollar net profit was probably a smaller percentage than usual for them, and since they each get over $40K per episode, Rick has one of the better gold mines out there. And now his old man is getting his silver stash certified by NGC and sold at a premium.
  • coinboynyccoinboynyc Posts: 41 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Pawn Stars is not technically "scripted". But the sellers featured on the show aren't people who just walk in off the street. You have to apply and your item approved to be featured. It has to be that way. Otherwise, the cameraman, sound guy, and producer would have to be around the shop all time to catch the rare instance when someone comes in with something interesting enough to put on TV. >>



    I've read reviews of the store (on Yelp) that say the Pawn Stars are only at the store when they tape, and when they do tape the store is closed to the public, so maybe some of the other customers in the background are actors.
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  • SoundPointSoundPoint Posts: 255 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It was NGC 61 and it sold to Rick for $65k.


    Did anyone catch that? I searched and didn't see any posts. >>




    ======================

    Just curious - Do you know if the coin had a mintmark?

    Thanks.
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,328 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That clip popped up as an interest item just a few moments ago.

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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 4, 2020 7:07PM

    @ricko said:
    << It is a scripted show... >>

    ALL 'reality' shows are scripted....Cheers, RickO

    Sounds like another "yogism". Aren't reality shows suppose to be,"unscripted"?
    That's like saying," The pregnant woman isn't pregnant." Lol

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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,234 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very interesting video.

    What I want to know is how much was in the pot at the poker game where the seller won the coin?

    Was it a high stakes poker game where everyone around the table was placing 5 figure bets (and they knew the coin had a value in the 5 figures)?

    Or was it a low stakes poker game where the person who bet with the 1922 dollar did not know its true value and thought it was worth $50.00?

  • air4mdcair4mdc Posts: 924 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinboynyc said:
    << Pawn Stars is not technically "scripted". But the sellers featured on the show aren't people who just walk in off the street. You have to apply and your item approved to be featured. It has to be that way. Otherwise, the cameraman, sound guy, and producer would have to be around the shop all time to catch the rare instance when someone comes in with something interesting enough to put on TV. >>

    I've read reviews of the store (on Yelp) that say the Pawn Stars are only at the store when they tape, and when they do tape the store is closed to the public, so maybe some of the other customers in the background are actors.

    I’ve been there before and the doors are closed and bouncers are at the doors so no one comes in to do business. The line forms outside and when they are done taping they let the mass of people in and everyone buys the over-priced trinkets for sale. It’s a circus. I was fortunate, there were about 200 people in line, I walked up and said hello to the bouncer and opened the door and walked right in. They were just finishing up taping. I took some pictures and someone yelled no pictures. The only one left was Chumley. Got to meet him, have photos and autographs and then I purchased a few things and left. Then I went over to Fish Tank and they were just starting to tape and met everyone, had pictures and they all signed a cap I purchased. It was a fun morning.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 5, 2020 12:50AM

    @SanctionII said:
    Very interesting video.

    What I want to know is how much was in the pot at the poker game where the seller won the coin?

    Was it a high stakes poker game where everyone around the table was placing 5 figure bets (and they knew the coin had a value in the 5 figures)?

    Or was it a low stakes poker game where the person who bet with the 1922 dollar did not know its true value and thought it was worth $50.00?

    the guy first asked for $20K, so had some idea of value to him

    sold in special pawn stars label ...

    https://coins.ha.com/itm/proof-peace-dollars/1922-1-high-relief-matte-pr61-ngc/a/1216-4211.s?hdnJumpToLot=1&x=0&y=0

  • 1northcoin1northcoin Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the video clip.

  • TwobitcollectorTwobitcollector Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I must admit I stopped watching this and the picker show

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great coin! And a very honest Rick Harrison.

  • yspsalesyspsales Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have heard multiple stories of these guys... not very friendly off the set. Just entitled buttheads.

    Another friend was a star in a trailer park reality show. They wanted my wife to sit in the higher end salon and run down the trailer park salon and tenants while she got her hair done. She was too shy, so another of his friends sat in who had local stage-play actress experience... all staged with script.

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,441 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oooooh.

  • 1northcoin1northcoin Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 5, 2020 12:48PM

    @air4mdc said:

    @coinboynyc said:
    << Pawn Stars is not technically "scripted". But the sellers featured on the show aren't people who just walk in off the street. You have to apply and your item approved to be featured. It has to be that way. Otherwise, the cameraman, sound guy, and producer would have to be around the shop all time to catch the rare instance when someone comes in with something interesting enough to put on TV. >>

    I've read reviews of the store (on Yelp) that say the Pawn Stars are only at the store when they tape, and when they do tape the store is closed to the public, so maybe some of the other customers in the background are actors.

    I’ve been there before and the doors are closed and bouncers are at the doors so no one comes in to do business. The line forms outside and when they are done taping they let the mass of people in and everyone buys the over-priced trinkets for sale. It’s a circus. I was fortunate, there were about 200 people in line, I walked up and said hello to the bouncer and opened the door and walked right in. They were just finishing up taping. I took some pictures and someone yelled no pictures. The only one left was Chumley. Got to meet him, have photos and autographs and then I purchased a few things and left. Then I went over to Fish Tank and they were just starting to tape and met everyone, had pictures and they all signed a cap I purchased. It was a fun morning.

    Thanks for sharing. Having been an extra on the TV show Hawaii Five-0 I always find it of interest to hear the behind the scenes experiences of others as well.

    It is always a matter of luck as to whether you get to interact with the main actors. In my case I got slotted into a scene that led to a person to person encounter with the two main Task Force members McGarrett and Dano that included an off the screen conversation between takes. Suffice it to say both were most gracious to those of us in lessor roles.

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