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    << <i>Thousands of years of religion has only brought what? >>


    faith. image >>



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    Religion = Man's way to make money and control masses.

    Faith = A personal relationship between someone and their creator.

    Big difference! image >>



    I have two creators...my parents. I know them. It requires no faith to have a relationship with my parents. Your post indicates that you definitely buy into religion, despite attempting to show you are not "religious."

    Religion (noun)-the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Yeah, you are definitely religious with your "creator" post.
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    << <i>Thousands of years of religion has only brought what? >>


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    Religion = Man's way to make money and control masses.

    Faith = A personal relationship between someone and their creator.

    Big difference! image >>



    I have two creators...my parents. I know them. It requires no faith to have a relationship with my parents. Your post indicates that you definitely buy into religion, despite attempting to show you are not "religious."

    Religion (noun)-the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Yeah, you are definitely religious with your "creator" post. >>



    Oh, so we have another atheist who is offended by a simple comment about God? I wasn't hiding anything, or attempting to. image
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,155 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I never once have stated everything is fine. In fact I believe nothing is ever fine. That's why I am not afraid of current conditions or future expectations.

    And yes Jmski, if I had been to the greatest party ever I might conclude that all others are lame, even if they might be quite good.

    Lowered expectations rarely results in disappointment but can often result in positive surprise. This is why I don't fret a stock market doubling in 4 years or silver crashing 70%. Its also why I view Stan's rantings as just what they are...a paranoid diatribe.

    Keep an even keel folks and your boat won't sink.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I never once have stated everything is fine. In fact I believe nothing is ever fine. That's why I am not afraid of current conditions or future expectations.

    We've been round and round on this forum about this, someone states that the whole system is a farce and it's time to cut and run and just load up on gold and get rid of anything "paper", and someone else says, well, maybe that's a little extreme, your definition of "paper" includes some actual business and other ownership of real assets, and then they go, "oh, you brainwashed fool, gold has never lost it's value and paper just burns up and melts away every time, it's all a scam on you fool, and then the other guy goes, well, now maybe there is some value in stocks and real estate, and they go, no, it's all broken and won't be fixed and the end is near, it's all fake and only gold is real.

    It is, after all, a precious metals forum, however some of these sound more like sales pitches than sound reasoning, and no coincidence, all the linked scare articles have ads for metals in the margins

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,266 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Still holding on to my Long NUGT position from the 9's. GLTA >>



    Still holding my long JNUG position in the $5.90-ish range...............of course that price was before the reverse split. image
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  • bluelobsterbluelobster Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭
    Speaking of JNUG, in the 2015 Investment contest..My highest conviction pick(unfortunately, not real) which is the virtual Bluelobster lock of the year, Hubris be damned! The trade is a hybrid long position of JNUG, but with all the Contango, resetting and plain ole' black hole money sucking qualities of being long these 3x ETF things...working in my favor, short JDST.

    On another note, While there are many lame things on this thread..I think bantering back and forth about religion, takes the lameness to a whole new level.
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,155 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Speaking of JNUG, in the 2015 Investment contest..My highest conviction pick(unfortunately, not real) which is the virtual Bluelobster lock of the year, Hubris be damned! The trade is a hybrid long position of JNUG, but with all the Contango, resetting and plain ole' black hole money sucking qualities of being long these 3x ETF things...working in my favor, short JDST.

    On another note, While there are many lame things on this thread..I think bantering back and forth about religion, takes the lameness to a whole new level. >>




    Problem with shorting JDST, is that it is impossible to borrow and thats why its a lock.




    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • bluelobsterbluelobster Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭
    Symbol: JDST
    Availability: 20'000
    Exchanges: ARCA
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations to the stock market....worst 4 day spell in over a year. Santa Claus rally pretty much ended on Christmas week.

    As it turns out the start of this year was the 3rd worst for the US stock market in 65 years.
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,155 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Symbol: JDST
    Availability: 20'000
    Exchanges: ARCA >>



    If you can get it then click it in there Stuart.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear



  • << <i>I never once have stated everything is fine. In fact I believe nothing is ever fine. That's why I am not afraid of current conditions or future expectations.

    And yes Jmski, if I had been to the greatest party ever I might conclude that all others are lame, even if they might be quite good.

    Lowered expectations rarely results in disappointment but can often result in positive surprise. This is why I don't fret a stock market doubling in 4 years or silver crashing 70%. Its also why I view Stan's rantings as just what they are...a paranoid diatribe.

    Keep an even keel folks and your boat won't sink. >>



    Cohodk, here is what you did say:

    <<I offer no solutions, as I think there is no problem. But you do, and offer nothing but fear. Generals do not instill fear, they build confidence. What do you want to do Stan?>>

    You clearly stated you didn't believe there was a problem. That basically means you feel everything is fine. So you're now coming around and admitting there are problems?


    Baley and Cohodk, no one is saying to be afraid. It's not scare tactics to live in the real world and discuss what is happening.
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,155 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Saying there is no problem is not the same as saying everything is fine. No wonder you interpret the NEW WORLD ORDER as you do.


    Millions and millions and millions of marriages continue on and on with no problems yet never is everything fine.


    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear



  • << <i>Saying there is no problem is not the same as saying everything is fine. No wonder you interpret the NEW WORLD ORDER as you do.


    Millions and millions and millions of marriages continue on and on with no problems yet never is everything fine. >>



    Splitting hairs, Cohodk. If your car has no brakes, and you tell yourself there are no problems, is there a problem? Hello?

    P.S. I don't interpret anything about the NWO. I simply posted the quotes from the string pullers/world leaders calling for it and what they say they have planned for all of us. That isn't me making anything up or assuming anything. It's their own words stating what their desires are.
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,155 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Your analogy does not fit the situation.


    string pullers/world leaders calling for it and what they say they have planned for all of us.

    I can tell you right now that no "string puller" has anything planned for ME. Do you hear yourself? String pullers planning something for all of us? Dude.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear



  • << <i>Your analogy does not fit the situation.


    string pullers/world leaders calling for it and what they say they have planned for all of us.

    I can tell you right now that no "string puller" has anything planned for ME. Do you hear yourself? String pullers planning something for all of us? Dude. >>



    You claim my analogy doesn't fit because you don't want to admit you are wrong.

    Do you hear yourself? You always act like you are the smartest man in the room(when you are no smarter than the rest of us), but you fail to accept the words from people in positions of power, that pretty much run the world, calling for a world government. So be it.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like holding stocks, bonds, cash, real estate, and metals, because there's always something to clap and cheer about (and something else to boo about, but I'll leave the booing to others image )

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NUGT trade still going. Up another 15% today.
    GLTA :-D
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,834 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Record highs brought to you by Zero Interest Rate Policy (ZIRP). Record stock buybacks by listed companies via cheap borrowing are the underlying cause.

    Natural forces of supply and demand are the best regulators on earth.

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,155 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You are an admirable pessimist derryb. imageimage

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    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

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    << <i>You are an admirable pessimist derryb. imageimage

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    experienced pessimist. This is not my first dance where the punchbowl was spiked and then taken away. image

    Most of us realize that our future is not being considered in FED policy decisions. We also realize that our financial future is being sacrificed with most FED policy decisions.

    Natural forces of supply and demand are the best regulators on earth.

  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,121 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    experienced pessimist. This is not my first dance where the punchbowl was spiked and then taken away. image

    Most of us realize that our future is not being considered in FED policy decisions. We also realize that our financial future is being sacrificed with most FED policy decisions. >>




    Most of us? I believe some of us do not subscribe to your constant overblown negativity...
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 3,993 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    experienced pessimist. This is not my first dance where the punchbowl was spiked and then taken away. image

    Most of us realize that our future is not being considered in FED policy decisions. We also realize that our financial future is being sacrificed with most FED policy decisions. >>



    Don't confuse people with facts derry. They won't like it.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,834 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> I believe some of us do not subscribe to your constant overblown negativity... >>


    Note that I didn't say "all of us." Not everyone on the forum seems to understand or comprehend the economic reality we live in.

    I think you'll find that I have an equally constant overblown positivity for the long term future of PMs. image

    Should you believe what they tell or what you see?

    Natural forces of supply and demand are the best regulators on earth.



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    << <i> I believe some of us do not subscribe to your constant overblown negativity... >>


    Note that I didn't say "all of us." Not everyone on the forum seems to understand or comprehend the economic reality we live in.

    I think you'll find that I have an equally constant overblown positivity for the long term future of PMs. image

    Should you believe what they tell or what you see? >>



    There are those that aren't going to wake up. It's much easier to laugh, mock, or believe in an artificial system, than deal with reality. image
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,155 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most of us realize that our future is not being considered in FED policy decisions. We also realize that our financial future is being sacrificed with most FED policy decisions


    The FED does not create my future. My future can only be sacrificed by myself.


    For someone who rallies against the sheeple, why do you always associate yourself with them? image
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,834 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Most of us realize that our future is not being considered in FED policy decisions. We also realize that our financial future is being sacrificed with most FED policy decisions


    The FED does not create my future. My future can only be sacrificed by myself.


    For someone who rallies against the sheeple, why do you always associate yourself with them? image >>


    The FED has nothing to do with the current and future value of your currency or the savings interest you earn? I forgot, Baleyville is exempt from reality. In my reality the value of my currency is completely at the mercy of monetary policy. That is why I insure it with precious metals.

    Natural forces of supply and demand are the best regulators on earth.



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    experienced pessimist. This is not my first dance where the punchbowl was spiked and then taken away. image

    Most of us realize that our future is not being considered in FED policy decisions. We also realize that our financial future is being sacrificed with most FED policy decisions. >>




    Most of us? I believe some of us do not subscribe to your constant overblown negativity... >>



    I had a teacher in school that use that overblown negativity saying on students. That's when the teacher's assistant spoke up and said some consider reality negativity when they don't want to deal with it.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In my reality the value of my currency is completely at the mercy of monetary policy. That is why I insure it with precious metals.

    It's a precious metals forum. We all here insure our currency with precious metals. But precious metals are not how most of us make our currency in the first place... we earn it by working, by investing, by taking some risks with the part of the currency that's not "insurance", but working capital. We know we're taking some market risks, and no one is claiming to be exempt from "reality" (except for exagerated "opinions" of ""reality"") and exempt from others putting straw man words in our mouths and then feeling smart and superior by knocking them out.

    A stock market crash will come. They "always" do, especially after a bull run (and that's true in any market of asset prices. I'll say it again: I expect a crash in stocks.

    An awareness of that (I hope all investors are aware that markets fluctuate, sometimes violently) doesn't keep folks from investing. Unfortunately, fear and greed sometimes cause investors to act in extreme ways, that magnifies their risk in the pursuit of increased gains (doubling down at tops, especially with margin or leveage) or panicking at bottoms, and dumping, and then missing huge rallies off the lows.

    because that's historically predictable too: after a crash, consolidation, sorting out the good companies from the wreckage, and another cycle begins anew

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Record highs brought to you by Zero Interest Rate Policy (ZIRP). Record stock buybacks by listed companies via cheap borrowing are the underlying cause. >>



    Great, I hope everyone is taking advantage of this gift. If you can't beat them, join them. It seems like being a martyr on this forum is the latest fashion.

    For years I railed against The Evil Empire known as GS. Finally after knocking my head against the wall to the point of concusion I just bought their stock instead. It's a winner even though the ones I know personally are losers.

    The market is rigged. 100%. So now what?

    MJ

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  • dbcoindbcoin Posts: 2,200 ✭✭


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    << <i>Record highs brought to you by Zero Interest Rate Policy (ZIRP). Record stock buybacks by listed companies via cheap borrowing are the underlying cause. >>



    Great, I hope everyone is taking advantage of this gift. If you can't beat them, join them. It seems like being a martyr on this forum is the latest fashion.

    For years I railed against The Evil Empire known as GS. Finally after knocking my head against the wall to the point of concusion I just bought their stock instead. It's a winner even though the ones I know personally are losers.

    The market is rigged. 100%. So now what?

    MJ >>



    My thoughts exactly MJ. I just bought JPM
  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭
    Wow, to bad you picked a bad day to buy jpm...
    keceph `anah
  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow, to bad you picked a bad day to buy jpm... >>




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  • dbcoindbcoin Posts: 2,200 ✭✭


    << <i>Wow, to bad you picked a bad day to buy jpm... >>



    why, pray tell, board troll? Interest rates will be heading up in 3,6,9 months. Good for financials. Pays almost 3% dividend in the interim. Stock has been sideways for a few years.
  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭
    Pre elementary charting...
    keceph `anah
  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭
    Oh n pretty funny u label a troll as someone smarter than u... Lol
    keceph `anah
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just bought shares of Grilled Cheese Truck! What could go wrong? I love grilled cheese.

    It's yellow like gold too! Forget Boeing...give me grilled cheese!

    Grilled website

    (Best I can figure, they own $256K in equipment, which probably includes about 4-6 grilled cheese trucks (approx $40K each). $108 MILL market cap? 120,000 followers on Facebook and Twitter is $800/follower in "good will."
    $12.3 MILL in debt and $4.4 MILL in losses for the first 9 months of 2014. So what..... as long as the cheese keeps flowing?
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My favorite line in the piece:

    "Enjoy the party, but dance near the door"

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ... and have a chair picked out for when the music stops

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Friday February 13, 2015 10:13 AM


    A stock market crash will come. They "always" do, especially after a bull run (and that's true in any market of asset prices. I'll say it again: I expect a crash in stocks.

    An awareness of that (I hope all investors are aware that markets fluctuate, sometimes violently) doesn't keep folks from investing. Unfortunately, fear and greed sometimes cause investors to act in extreme ways, that magnifies their risk in the pursuit of increased gains (doubling down at tops, especially with margin or leveage) or panicking at bottoms, and dumping, and then missing huge rallies off the lows.

    because that's historically predictable too: after a crash, consolidation, sorting out the good companies from the wreckage, and another cycle begins anew


    And here it is, just about 6 months later. Enjoy! image

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So far, appears to be around 10% down from it's high of somewhere around 18000 or so. Time to buy in, or wait for more carnage?

    Oh wait... there are those forum members who have been saying all is good with the market, better buy the dip....
    ----- kj
  • bluelobsterbluelobster Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So far, appears to be around 10% down from it's high of somewhere around 18000 or so. Time to buy in, or wait for more carnage?

    Oh wait... there are those forum members who have been saying all is good with the market, better buy the dip.... >>



    Not sure if this is a buying opp or not in the near term, but I am nibbling back at some of the stocks I sold at substantially reduced prices, but the trend is down and cheaper most often becomes cheaper in downtrends. Curiously, which forum members have been saying all is good with the market?
  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's what I am considering bluelobster... nibbling back a little. But we are probably due for a larger correction; 15-20% at some time.
    ----- kj
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,121 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Curiously, which forum members have been saying all is good with the market? >>



    10 4. Seems to me, that most of us have been saying "a correction is overdue"

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i><So far, appears to be around 10% down from it's high of somewhere around 18000 or so. Time to buy in, or wait for more carnage?

    Oh wait... there are those forum members who have been saying all is good with the market, better buy the dip....

    Curiously, which forum members have been saying all is good with the market? > >>



    10 4. Seems to me, that most of us have been saying "a correction is overdue" >>



    What we have are some forum members saying that other forum members are saying "all is good with the market", when, as the quote indicates, and OPA points out, they have not been saying that at all ...

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh God my entire 401k is in a S&P 500 fund. image
    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,155 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Oh God my entire 401k is in a S&P 500 fund. image >>



    Congrats. You've done very well.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,155 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The market is still higher than my target which I've mentioned several times.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Oh God my entire 401k is in a S&P 500 fund. image >>



    Congrats. You've done very well. >>



    Unless you bought it all a month ago, and are forced to sell it all today.. ooops, bad timing, but you still didn't get hurt too badly even so

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There's always room for correction.
  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    Dow down about 8% in 5 weeks, and back to where the DJIA was a year ago. image
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