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It warms my heart that United Health Group is up 32% this year.
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Second best performer of the Dow Industrials in fact. It is proof that Socialism is not bad for the economy. Apparently forcing Americans to conduct business with this entity has been quite profitable.
I may buy some McDonalds stock, if we can force citizens to eat a couple of Cheeseburgers each day, I will be rich!
I may buy some McDonalds stock, if we can force citizens to eat a couple of Cheeseburgers each day, I will be rich!
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I still like the Big Mac even after the Pink Slime controversy especially with the coupons they seem to offering more lately.
Heath insurance will still be unavoidable because of wage stagnation even with the ACA. Income is not increasing along with rise in heath insurance premium costs. The Lobbyist wrote the ACA in their favor, not the consumer.
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<< <i>Does this have something to do with metals? >>
Absolutely. Read the thread about the demise of B&M coin shops on the U.S. coin forum. Every time that you squeeze money out of the US citizen, disposable income declines along with the ability to invest. If that is not precious metal related, you are using a very narrow definition.
<< <i>I'm using a very narrow definition then. >>
You should find this thread more to your liking then!
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Though the spam police may have an issue!
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
That fact was not well publicized when the ACA was crafted.
<< <i>I work in a small private Dr's office that's been established for 55+ years in a small town and you wouldn't believe the decrease in reimbursement % we've had to deal with the last few years. We have had to discontinue contracts with some insurance companies and refuse to take some channels of Obamacare due to the loss we would take if we accepted such plans. We've had to discontinue some important services to our patients also because the reimbursement is neutral or negative. Imagine a business where you bust your butt for the health of others and someone in control outside of the business can tell you how much to charge and how much they are going to pay you for it while your supply cost is going up faster than they pay you. >>
It's the bankster effect. Oh look at this , a buyer and a seller deciding between them on a price without the benefit of 27 middlemen. We can't have things operate that smoothly we have to do something.
<< <i>Does this have something to do with metals? >>
This.
Most of the time this lyric pops into my head when the OP waxes poetic and goes south of the reservation.
"Any Man with a Microphone can tell you what he loves the most"-------Jack White
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
This will have you on the edge of your seat!
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<< <i>Here ya go, Justacomm.
This will have you on the edge of your seat!
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A puck thread is worse than a healthcare thread
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<< <i>Here ya go, Justacomm.
This will have you on the edge of your seat!
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A puck thread is worse than a healthcare thread >>
Can't argue with that..............M
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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<< <i>Here ya go, Justacomm.
This will have you on the edge of your seat!
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A puck thread is worse than a healthcare thread >>
Can't argue with that..............M >>
could we combine the 2? puck dropped on toe scenario perhaps
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
<< <i>Here ya go, Justacomm.
This will have you on the edge of your seat!
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Well, at least it's PM related, unlike most of your threads
<< <i>Have owned UNH since 2001 so my heart also warmed by both cap gains and dividends >>
Remember, all the numbers are fake unless they make something look bad.
Successful BST deals with mustangt and jesbroken. Now EVERYTHING is for sale.
<< <i>Remember, all the numbers are fake unless they make something look bad. >>
Kindly read this thread. A poster that works in a small office is seeing patients turned away because of the ACA.
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<< <i>Remember, all the numbers are fake unless they make something look bad. >>
Kindly read this thread. A poster that works in a small office is seeing patients turned away because of the ACA. >>
BO care is nothing but a big con job forced on the American people. It's really nothing more than a eugenics based health care system with death panels that will be enforced on all of us when they deem we are not worthy of living any longer.
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<< <i>Remember, all the numbers are fake unless they make something look bad. >>
Kindly read this thread. A poster that works in a small office is seeing patients turned away because of the ACA. >>
BO care is nothing but a big con job forced on the American people. It's really nothing more than a eugenics based health care system with death panels that will be enforced on all of us when they deem we are not worthy of living any longer. >>
In 2010 when Palin said there were DP's in the ACA she was ridiculed, at the very least. When Krugman said it last year there was no fallout. That's all we need to know.
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<< <i>Does this have something to do with metals? >>
Absolutely. Read the thread about the demise of B&M coin shops on the U.S. coin forum. Every time that you squeeze money out of the US citizen, disposable income declines along with the ability to invest. If that is not precious metal related, you are using a very narrow definition. >>
Isn't there smoe open forum you can troll at? Oh, wait, never mind.
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<< <i>Does this have something to do with metals? >>
Absolutely. Read the thread about the demise of B&M coin shops on the U.S. coin forum. Every time that you squeeze money out of the US citizen, disposable income declines along with the ability to invest. If that is not precious metal related, you are using a very narrow definition. >>
Isn't there an open forum for you to troll at. Oh wait, never mind.
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<< <i>Does this have something to do with metals? >>
Absolutely. Read the thread about the demise of B&M coin shops on the U.S. coin forum. Every time that you squeeze money out of the US citizen, disposable income declines along with the ability to invest. If that is not precious metal related, you are using a very narrow definition. >>
Isn't there smoe open forum you can troll at? Oh, wait, never mind.
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Play unh next year as a hold, it's not going down as currently laid out without chaos.
<< <i>Wow, people should have paid attention 8 years ago at minimum...who woulda thunk that.
Play unh next year as a hold, it's not going down as currently laid out without chaos. >>
Not much interest from the middle class 8 years ago as they thought that they would be exempt and the nasty little program would only affect the freeloaders. Gross miscalculation.
<< <i>The investment forum is okay by me. The teachers are in abundance. I will never begrudge people or technology, and will always appreciate those expressing themselves openly or publicly. >>
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<< <i>Remember, all the numbers are fake unless they make something look bad. >>
Kindly read this thread. A poster that works in a small office is seeing patients turned away because of the ACA. >>
That is what they call "anecdotal information". If you would like to search for other anecdotal information you will see others claiming that the ACA is already saving lives and money. But maybe you don't want to believe those statements? Why are you against the ACA? Are you also against Medicare and Social Security? I am.
Of course now some people assume that I must love Obama which could not be farther from the truth. I just try to use facts when I invest in precious metals or stocks or whatever. I have been a libertarian for many years and I think pretty much everything the Gov does these days is against the Constitution or just plain crooked. I am not one of those that believes if the other party were in control that everything would be ok. I used to get called a Republican when I told them I didn't believe Bush was the evil mastermind behind 9/11. Now I get in trouble cause I don't think Obama is a secret Muslim who hates America.
I don't think we are supposed to be talking politics here and frankly I hate doing it on the internet. But I keep doing it because I am an idiot. I will try to stick to the coin areas from now on, but remember, I AM an idiot.
Successful BST deals with mustangt and jesbroken. Now EVERYTHING is for sale.
<< <i>Why are you against the ACA? Are you also against Medicare and Social Security? >>
Given a choice, I would like to see all three programs dismantled immediately. Socialism has always led to failure as humans are not known for their altruism.
<< <i>Dr. Oz mentioned today that 20% of all American woman take prescribed anti-depressants. That must help the bottom line of UHG and big Pharma's. >>
Sounds like business opportunity for entrepreneurial men.
The chart of UHN isn't much different than 100s of other stocks. Although getting parabolic now, it is/was an excellent play on the aging demographic of America.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
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<< <i>Dr. Oz mentioned today that 20% of all American woman take prescribed anti-depressants. That must help the bottom line of UHG and big Pharma's. >>
Sounds like business opportunity for entrepreneurial men.
The chart of UHN isn't much different than 100s of other stocks. Although getting parabolic now, it is/was an excellent play on the aging demographic of America. >>
Of course. There's nothing better than pushing poison on people and profiting from their destruction.
<<Patients who take selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) such as Prozac (fluoxetine), Paxil (paroxetine) or Zoloft (sertraline) may experience side effects such as violent behavior, mania or aggression, which can all lead to suicide.
What begins as withdrawing from friends and activities and a loss of interest in work can escalate to harming oneself. In clinical trials and public use, there have been cases where antidepressant users have thought about, attempted or committed suicide.
Antidepressants have also been shown to have other dangerous side effects, including severe birth defects when a woman takes the drug during pregnancy. In fact, dozens of women who took antidepressants during pregnancy have filed lawsuits after their children suffered birth defects.>>
The entire article is here:
Antidepressants and suicide
Or how about this?
<<More and more psychiatric disorders are appearing that might be called "lifestyle" diseases. What was called shyness, sadness, restlessness, shopping too much, high sex drive, low sex drive, and so on have increasingly been seen as diseases and many more will appear in the new DSM, the diagnostic manual of psychological and psychiatric disorders. Increasingly the criteria for inclusion in the DSM involves whether the disorder responds to a category of drugs. If, as we've just seen, one of the key class of drugs that for 20 years has been considered effective now fails, what does that say for this idea that if a disease responds to a particular drug, then it is a particular disease? We have to rethink the whole biological basis for lifestyle disorders.
We're an over-medicated society, and the goal of drug companies and a compliant and harried medical establishment is ultimately to have some drug coursing through every individuals's bloodstream. It's a lot easier to quickly pop a pill or prescribe than it is to explore the reasons for a person's distress. Many of us remember the scenario in 1960's science fiction movies of a dystopic future or Soviet-style world with drugs used to control minds. Well, that future is here and the social control we dreaded is now accepted in the form of a pill.>>
Read the entire article here:
Important reasons to avoid SSRIs pushed by Big Pharma/the globalists
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<< <i>Welcome to the forums, Tom Cruise!
Have your heard of medical research? Yeah, those little things called facts? It's sad that we live in a society that blindly trusts what propaganda that is put out by the ptb, and laugh in the face of the evidence that shows there are obvious problems. Oh, and if you dare point out the glaring problems, you are 'labeled' by the people who are gullible enough to believe everything they are fed by the string pullers who push the drugs and profit from them.
Yes we are, but not for that reason. Look at ourselves--we all want to live longer and will gladly take medications to achieve that goal. Why do you always see conspiracy in personal action and responsibility?
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
<< <i>We're an over-medicated society, and the goal of drug companies and a compliant and harried medical establishment is ultimately to have some drug coursing through every individuals's bloodstream
Yes we are, but not for that reason. Look at ourselves--we all want to live longer and will gladly take medications to achieve that goal. Why do you always see conspiracy in personal action and responsibility? >>
No, it's exactly for the reasons I detailed and backed with links to medical research. There is no conspiracy in posting what has been proven effects from taking these rx poisons. They push them 24/7 on tv. If you don't believe me, watch television and count how many times they air pharma commercials over the course of a day. It's really bad when watching mainstream news like FOX, CNN, MSNBC, etc.. If you look who is behind these companies, you can see who buys/controls your mainstream news.
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<< <i>Welcome to the forums, Tom Cruise!
Have your heard of medical research? Yeah, those little things called facts? It's sad that we live in a society that blindly trusts what propaganda that is put out by the ptb, and laugh in the face of the evidence that shows there are obvious problems. Oh, and if you dare point out the glaring problems, you are 'labeled' by the people who are gullible enough to believe everything they are fed by the string pullers who push the drugs and profit from them. >>
So-called facts are meaningless unless based in context. Any party or group can can manipulate data to present facts to suit their agenda. You have some valid points, but like most conspiracy theorists, your presentation is couched in such absolute assertions that it borders on parody.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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<< <i>Welcome to the forums, Tom Cruise!
Have your heard of medical research? Yeah, those little things called facts? It's sad that we live in a society that blindly trusts what propaganda that is put out by the ptb, and laugh in the face of the evidence that shows there are obvious problems. Oh, and if you dare point out the glaring problems, you are 'labeled' by the people who are gullible enough to believe everything they are fed by the string pullers who push the drugs and profit from them. >>
So-called facts are meaningless unless based in context. Any party or group can can manipulate data to present facts to suit their agenda. You have some valid points, but like most conspiracy theorists, your presentation is couched in such absolute assertions that it borders on parody. >>
Of course. Yet another of those who listen to mainstream media news that calls anyone who dares question the system a conspiracy theorist. This was a term the CIA weaponized decades ago and they said it would be used for just the very reason you tried to pull on me. To silence and discredit anyone who points out things are not like the ptb tell you they are. That doesn't work anymore thanks to alternative media exposing the lies. Anything I have stated can be found with a slight bit of research. Nah, that takes too much work.
Bingo! The problems with zealots are that they bring their pet causes into every conversation, no matter how remote the connection, they go on and on about it, and they tend to assert that their pet cause is either the only thing or the most important thing going on, and when someone objects to the absolute and extremest statements and seeks a rational middle ground, then they say, "oh, there's the head in the sand denier, the puppet of THEM, the deluded, the ignorant, the FOOL!" The sad thing is that the zealots often have a very valid point, but it's lost in the hyperbole that renders their arguments obviously false. When pointed out, they tend to reply, "oh, everything is PERFECT in your pink sky world with rainbows and unicorns! So you LOVE the the inefficiencies, corruption and sickness an of the world, huh?"
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I don't care if it's gold, or healthcare system, or someone's favorite diety, or whatever, if someone won't ever shut up about it,
then they'd better be prepared so see eye rolls and fingers twirling around temples. (or their electronic equivalent)
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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<< <i>Any party or group can can manipulate data to present facts to suit their agenda. >>
Not when it pertains to the big "G". They never lie to us. We should question nothing they say and just be sheep.
There you go again.
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
then they'd better be prepared so see eye rolls and fingers twirling around temples. (or their electronic equivalent)"""
Eye rolls and finger twirling is fine........until our choices are taken away by federal mandates such as the ACA. Been able to make my own decisions on healthcare spending until this vile law was passed half a decade ago.
Some folks are going into the docs office today to have 5 feet of hose shoved up their rear end. If that turns em on, so be it, just don't end me the bill!
<< <i>They never lie to us. We should question nothing they say and just be sheep.
There you go again. >>
That's right. If a person dares to have the courage to point out that we are being lied to and manipulated you are labeled a conspiracy theorist by people whom the system has already deceived in to believing their narrative. It doesn't bother me. I wear it like a badge of honor. I feel for the people who refuse to open their eyes and learn what is really going on behind the scenes. Sure, they can laugh and mock now. It's fun and doesn't take any courage to be a part of that group.
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<< <i>They never lie to us. We should question nothing they say and just be sheep.
There you go again. >>
That's right. If a person dares to have the courage to point out that we are being lied to and manipulated you are labeled a conspiracy theorist by people whom the system has already deceived in to believing their narrative. It doesn't bother me. I wear it like a badge of honor. I feel for the people who refuse to open their eyes and learn what is really going on behind the scenes. Sure, they can laugh and mock now. It's fun and doesn't take any courage to be a part of that group. >>
Really a continuation of the cradle to grave, nanny state deception. We have gone from a nation of hale and hearty farmers, inhaling fresh air and exercising our bodies, to cubicle drones, in a mere century. Independent thought is discouraged for 45 hours a week and the Stockholm reflex continues on to the grocery store and then the medical office and pharmacy.
Witnessing my third acquaintance succumb to Cancer over the last 24 months. 2 are gone, one is not far. Only constant is the medicine has failed and the docs have gotten wealthy off the suffering.
You continue to demonstrate zealotism. I and many others on here actually agree with many of your points, to a certain degree. Why do you feel the need to belittle us, ascribe to us the absolute opposite extremist ("totally brainwashed") characterization, and make yourself out to be some genius that has just come to these realizations, and we're either cretins or willfully ignorant (oblivious)?
Yes, gold is worth having, yes the financial system is flawed, yes the healthcare system is flawed, yes the political system is flawed, yes "they" manipulate us (or try to) and yes, some folks are more aware of this, more every day, and more and more folks are seeking to be objective about these issues and understand the underlying fundamentals, and most importantly, take purposeful action to improve their lives and futures.
However, the inflamatory language and the belittling of those engaging you in conversation, the mis-stating of others' positions, are not helping you "spread the good word" in fact, quite the contrary.
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry