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best john smoltz rookie to buy

lwehlerslwehlers Posts: 928 ✭✭✭✭✭
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hello since it almost hall of fame voting time i want buy a john smoltz rookie. what is the best one to buy. a 1989 upper deck psa 10 or a 1989 bowman tiffany psa 9 rookie. any suggestions is appreciated.

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  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For any 89 set rookies, I'd go with UD.
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  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    1988 Fleer Update Glossy.
  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,477 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1986 minor league
    1987 minor league
    1988 cmc minor league
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  • lwehlerslwehlers Posts: 928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i did not know that he had a fleer update rookie. i will look that one up. thanks for the suggestions.
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,608 ✭✭✭✭
    That's an easy one since he only has 1 MLB rookie - '88 Fleer Update (or the Glossy version).
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  • orioles93orioles93 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That's an easy one since he only has 1 MLB rookie - '88 Fleer Update (or the Glossy version). >>



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  • StanTheManMusialStanTheManMusial Posts: 2,053 ✭
    Due to the popularity of 1989 Upper Deck, that card will probably win out in the end. I think it looks better than the 1988 Fleer Update glossy as well.
  • MinorLeaguerMinorLeaguer Posts: 511 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1986 minor league
    1987 minor league
    1988 cmc minor league >>



    Agreed!

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  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭
    I think I would go with the 89 Topps Tiffany
  • miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>1986 minor league
    1987 minor league
    1988 cmc minor league >>



    Agreed!

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    +1 on the 1986, but beware of the counterfeits. There are tons out there if you're not aware...
  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭✭
    One thing that I really love about the '88 Fleer Update is that he's pictured in his actual debut game, at Shea Stadium. You can't get much rookier than that.

    I agree about the '89 UD being the most appealing of his '89 cards. If you want a sleeper from that year, his '89 Donruss Baseball's Best is a great looking card, far nicer than his rookie from the regular set.
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  • Baez578Baez578 Posts: 967 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think I would go with the 89 Topps Tiffany >>



    I'm a fan also. And bowman Tiffany
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    1989 Topps Big


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  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,477 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>1989 Topps Big >>



    Which series is he in, do you know?
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  • creecree Posts: 393 ✭✭
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  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    I think three...I bought hundreds of those looking for Johnson and smoltz


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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    1988 Fleer Update or 1988 Fleer Update Glossy.

    Any other card discussed is for the "Best early Smoltz card to buy" discussion.
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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,608 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>1988 Fleer Update or 1988 Fleer Update Glossy.

    Any other card discussed is for the "Best early Smoltz card to buy" discussion. >>



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    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • stormtrooper80stormtrooper80 Posts: 317


    << <i>One thing that I really love about the '88 Fleer Update is that he's pictured in his actual debut game, at Shea Stadium. You can't get much rookier than that.

    I agree about the '89 UD being the most appealing of his '89 cards. If you want a sleeper from that year, his '89 Donruss Baseball's Best is a great looking card, far nicer than his rookie from the regular set. >>



    I love the 88 Fleer Glossy, and I do love the Donruss Baseball's Best sets. They were glossy and much harder to find than the regular set (which is saying nothing).
    The 89 UD set however, I wouldn't touch with a 10 ft pole. I think they're still printing those somewhere in CA.
  • ManofmoeManofmoe Posts: 264 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>1986 minor league
    1987 minor league
    1988 cmc minor league >>



    Agreed!

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    Did all of these have Smoltz being born in 1957 instead of 1967 or is that an error?
  • MinorLeaguerMinorLeaguer Posts: 511 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>1986 minor league
    1987 minor league
    1988 cmc minor league >>



    Agreed!

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    Did all of these have Smoltz being born in 1957 instead of 1967 or is that an error? >>



    Appears to be an uncorrected error as I have a few of these cards and they all say 57.
  • MinorLeaguerMinorLeaguer Posts: 511 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>1986 minor league
    1987 minor league
    1988 cmc minor league >>



    Agreed!

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    +1 on the 1986, but beware of the counterfeits. There are tons out there if you're not aware... >>




    Yup lots of them around but they are easy to spot. It's almost always in the font on the front. Check out ebay seller stan111 who sells lots of 1986 Procards in GEM holders. All are fake.

    Here is a typical font example of a fake vs. a real one that's in the PSA holder:
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  • BaseballfansBaseballfans Posts: 54 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>1988 Fleer Update or 1988 Fleer Update Glossy.

    Any other card discussed is for the "Best early Smoltz card to buy" discussion. >>



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    For HOF PSA collector this is the best card to get. Glossy like Topps Tiffany were produce in lesser quality.
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭
    His rarest MLB card from '88 to '89 is the 1989 Bowman Tiffany.
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  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>His rarest MLB card from '88 to '89 is the 1989 Bowman Tiffany. >>

    Which I am now regretting not getting around to buying.
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  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The only thing Smoltz I have that's rare is a 1989 Canadian Donruss pack with his rookie card showing on the back.
  • BaseballfansBaseballfans Posts: 54 ✭


    << <i>That's an easy one since he only has 1 MLB rookie - '88 Fleer Update (or the Glossy version). >>



    You are right. Glossy version sold for $405 Auction Price for Real

    There is Buy it Now & nobody notice because very few people bother to check BIN section. BIN with Best Offer
  • Bravesfan007Bravesfan007 Posts: 186 ✭✭
    What the heck is the value of this card? PWCC sold one for $400 this month. There are several BINs on Ebay for $200-$270. That $199 best offer is a great deal right?
  • Bravesfan007Bravesfan007 Posts: 186 ✭✭
    I see the PWCC one was from the Dmitri Young collection so that explains it a little. But is $200 a good price for this card?
  • timpatgtimpatg Posts: 319


    << <i>What the heck is the value of this card? PWCC sold one for $400 this month. >>



    PWCC card was either a shiller or someone got caught with an atomic snipe against another crazy person.
  • dgordodgordo Posts: 123 ✭✭


    << <i>I see the PWCC one was from the Dmitri Young collection so that explains it a little. But is $200 a good price for this card? >>



    No, $200 is still too much. VCP average is $75 including that crazy $400 sale.

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  • Bravesfan007Bravesfan007 Posts: 186 ✭✭
    $75 should be the price of a non glossy if I'm not mistaken, which is a large upswing from before he got elected.
  • dgordodgordo Posts: 123 ✭✭


    << <i>$75 should be the price of a non glossy if I'm not mistaken, which is a large upswing from before he got elected. >>



    VCP could be showing incorrect data but it definitely shows just under $75 for the glossy.

    http://www.vintagecardprices.com/card-profile/index.php?card_id=173312&a=1&grd=10&grdr=PSA

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  • dgordodgordo Posts: 123 ✭✭
    A 1989 Topps Tiffany went for $330 this week from PWCC. Obscene price, nearly 2x the previous VCP average.

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