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Does your year of birth influence your definition of Modern Crap?
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I suspect that mine does, but maybe not.
All post 1964 clad stuff is MC in my book. On the other hand I am a fan of the modern gold and silver commemoratives.
Guess it is more alloy related than time of production.
All post 1964 clad stuff is MC in my book. On the other hand I am a fan of the modern gold and silver commemoratives.
Guess it is more alloy related than time of production.
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RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
All those could have been found in change or at the bank then.
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<< <i>So when you were born, were Franklins/Walkers/Mercs/Peace Dollars Modern Crap???
All those could have been found in change or at the bank then. >>
When I was a young boy in Miami, I occasionally found Indian Head cents, Liberty nickels, etc. in change too. When I was living in Logan, Utah (1996-2007, I occasionally received Buffalo nickels, Mercs, and Standing Liberty quarters (as well as more recent silver coins) in change.
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
Quarter. It was a ONE year change, then back to the original design. But when they take a denomination and start changing the designs like people change underwear, that's
where I loose interest. What they have done to coinage, especially the quarter is crap.
I'm sure it's done more for marketing than anything else. I get that they want to make money at the Mint and sell to people that collect what they conjure up. The bigger question
is, are these coins really what should be in circulation? Personally I say no, they should be special sets or commems.
For me the only true U.S. coins in circulation right now are the dime and the half dollar. I don't see them as modern crap. If they change that's ok IF they make ONE design change
and they leave the new designfor at least 25 years. If there's something If I recall, I thought there was a law that called for 25 year designs but like everything else the government
just legislates laws out of their way.
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I do not pay more than face value for a business strike coin younger than myself, and not more than double melt for any PM coin or ingot younger than myself.
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<< For me the only true U.S. coins in circulation right now are the dime and the half dollar. >>
I'll trade you a real dime for any fake quarter you may happen to run across in change.
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Modern coinage: about 1940.
Modern crap: 1965.
real purpose. How could my collection of Ike dollars possibly offend a collector of early copper? I do agree that
some of the Mint's recent products have removed a lot of dollars from the general public that could have gone
to better use elsewhere, but new collectors have to begin somewhere.
The various gold $5 commemoratives that are selling for melt (Statue of Liberty, Constitution, and so on) may
be viewed as "modern crap" by many, but to me they are a great way to put some money into bullion with
attractive coins. I would never pay a premium for a slabbed 70 of any of these, however.
Born a long time ago, back when worn out Indian cents and Liberty Seated coins were still in circulation.
Had to sell a 1967 Rickenbacker Electric 12 String guitar ($450.) which
I earned by installing a chain link fence years earlier, only to take care of "other'' responsibilities.
Like buy diapers then change and dispose of them
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My birth year was "definitely" an influence on me, numismatically.
& maybe, whoever started thinking this modern crap was special.
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<< <i>I think of MC as when we switched from silver/copper to zinc and clad.... Cheers, RickO >>
+1 here
1965 to 1967 i find impressive though with those special mint sets and their processing method
In terms of mordern coinage, I use the 1940's in general as a starting point (end of the Mercs and Walkers).
On the other hand I consider circa 1930 to be the height of American coinage (Buffaloes, Mercs, SLQ's, Walkers, Peace Dollars, Indian Head / St Gaudens gold coins).
Cents changed in 1959 (and again in 2009) so perhaps post 1958 is modern
Jefferson nickels started in 1938, with a variety change in 2004 so are 1938 Jeff's modern or only post 2003?
Roosie's are unchanged since 1946 and quarters have been bouncing around since 1998
Kennedy's started in 1964 and were liked by all, until the 2014 gold release made everyone who bought them from the US Mint, hate them.
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<< <i>Does your year of birth influence your definition of Modern Crap? >>
No.
My definition is based upon the coins design. In other words, regardless of year of manufacture, if it has a former President on it then it's modern. If it has anything else on it then its classic..........in design.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>1982, firmly in the modern crap era >>
The year of the birth of the Zincoln.
The modern era for coins has nothing to do with my birth year or my thoughts as to when the modern era began and ended. For those of you keeping score, we are now in the Post Modern Era.
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<< <i>I share the "official" birth year for modern crap: 1965 >>
Nothing modern about 1965
<< <i>I would agree that 1965 was the start of modern crap. This includes modern commen. crap.
Bought an AU a long time ago for $275.00
Its got to be one of the greatest US Mint errors....
1970 is not to significant in coins but its a pretty cool era for muscle cars......
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<< <i>I hate the term "modern crap" as it tends to make fun of another collector's pursuits, and denigrates for no
real purpose. How could my collection of Ike dollars possibly offend a collector of early copper? I do agree that
some of the Mint's recent products have removed a lot of dollars from the general public that could have gone
to better use elsewhere, but new collectors have to begin somewhere. >>
Why worry about what somebody else is collecting?
I like my proof Jefferson nickels. I don't care if somebody else doesn't like them.
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<< <i>For those of you keeping score, we are now in the Post Modern Era. >>
When did that begin?
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My birth year is real stuff.
In the realm of a numismatist, and sorry to say this to U. S. collectors - all you coins are considered modern. It comprises the previous 221 years of 2600+ years of coinage.
There are traditional delineation's of periods, e.g. the end of the Byzantine Empire, the advent of steam coinage, the end of the gold standard, the advent of clad coinage, etc.
But if it weren't for the collector who saved his "modern crap", our hobby would be pretty bleak.
that you could almost guarantee that if you had a couple of nickels in your pocket at any time over the next 10-15 years, that one of them was a 1964. And in the early 1960's you ran into a ton of 1939 nickels as well.
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<< <i>Does your year of birth influence your definition of Modern Crap? >>
No.
My definition is based upon the coins design. In other words, regardless of year of manufacture, if it has a former President on it then it's modern. If it has anything else on it then its classic..........in design. >>
I kind of like that definition of if it has a former president on it. I would also like to chime in my agreement with a few others who don't like the term modern crap. Probably at least 2/3 off us started out collecting coins either still in circulation or recently out of circulation, ie. what would be considered modern crap now.
I wonder if Roman numismatists felt the same back in the day ..... ???
Interesting. In Massachusetts about 1960 1/3 of the nickels were buffalo and 1/3 were war nicks. By 1964 the numbers were much reduced but still circulating.
A visitor from California remarked that there were no buffaloes in circulation there. In mid 1966 clad dimes were not circulating in the Boston area. At the same time they were very common in Bangor, Maine. Dimes dated 1965 were uncommon in Boston for a few years after that. It is hard to picture silver coins circulating as late as 1996 anywhere.
I was told in 1947 that gold coins would show up occasionally out West - Colorado I think. That was the year I got a five dollar piece from a bank in Maine for $5.
ok, that's what we`re trying to figure out...
How about, over-lay the 0-70 grading scale and extrapolate
it in a time frame of 1 year for each number of the scale, reversed.
So, 70 years ago to now is `modern crap` as it were..
1944 is the answer...
:-)
I was born in 55... Don't think that has anything to do with it.
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<< <i>1970 is not to significant in coins but its a pretty cool era for muscle cars...... >>
Maybe so but i like this one from that year.
MS64+RD DDO.
Hoard the keys.
"one strike" sms deep cameos surely hold their own above crap for a title
transitional pieces can be found struck on 90% planchets
one surely can buy alot of classics with finding such crap and selling it...
Coin are a hobby for me.
The 1965 sms coins were
1)Minted in San Francisco with no mint mark.These being sms coins is their mint mark.
2)The sms coins have a low mintage respectively 2,360,000 sets.
3)The mint cello shows the uncerculated condition.
4)Of the three sms years its the only in mint cello.
5)The sms kennedy is the lowest minted kennedy at 2,360,000 coins.
Most consider the 1965 sms coins as crap........I hoard them!