Steve who is an advanced wrestling card collector has a checklist site and was the only area any information could be found. He has updated it which is great.
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Cover card (Coupon for free fries) 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - * Nick Gulas (promoter) 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Dennis Condry 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - * Mike St. John 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - * Tommy Sloan (referree) 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - George Gulas 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - * Len Rossi 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Hans Shroeder 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Robert Gibson 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - * Donna Bower 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Tojo Yamamoto 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Pat Smith 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Bobby Eaton 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - * Tommy Kerkeles 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - The Red Terror 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Tommy Resesto, Jr. 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Cheif Thundercloud 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Ken Lucas 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - * Tommy Resesto, Sr. 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - David Shultz 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Ricky Gibson 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Jerry Barber 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Prince Tonga Note: Sealed sets were distributed to the first 1200 attendees at the Sport Arena at the Tenness State Fairgrounds on November 21, 1979. Note: Non-wrestlers designated above with "*" Note: Cards are unnumbered. Note: Cards were sponsored by Rax Roast Beef Restuarants and Pabst Blue Ribbon Note: Order the cards above shown in order from an opened sealed pack.
Ricky Gibson's shirt cracks me up.....funny ......
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
I have been giving this some thought. I really think the title of the set should probably be how you have it Steve. Although most including myself always attributed the name Rax Roast Beef to the cards, there are two sponsors and they were given out at an event.
Since they weren't the lone sponsor and weren't given out at the restaurants it just wouldn't make since to call them this.
The only reason to use the name Rax Roast Beef in the title would be because the header card says it and one would have associated the set with that name.
I haven't spoken to PSA's research department yet but this could be a stumbling block.
What do you call them?
I would love to hear others thoughts. Personally I would rather the name Rax be associated with them as I have been dying to own the Rax cards but the purest in me thinks this is wrong.
Please share some thoughts fellow collectors.
Edit: Post from another board.
Title would be 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling
Sickest set I've seen due to both rarity and how sweet the cards look. Old school will always win out over today's modern designs. Thanks for the share. Can't wait to see them graded. Any maybe, just maybe, another set will pop up some day and I can try to empty my wallet at that point... Unless of course you are on a mission to do to this set like you did for the All-Stars set...then we are all pretty much screwed! At least then I can try to buy your lower grade examples.... Frickin awesome!
I am working with someone in the research department currently and will be getting them this evening all pertinent information that pertains to the cards.
I am really hoping we can get these babies in a PSA slab!
I see no reason why they would not, but I am anxiously waiting to hear as well.
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
I sent him a follow up email on Wednesday but never heard back from him. Hopefully a decision will be made soon.
There is another wrestling collector I am friends with on Facebook who is making a fake Dr. D card to get signed. A few days ago I saw a notification and it was him tagging me in this photo shopped card.
It goes well with my Rollins All Stars card from years ago that Mcadams made of me as a joke!
Michelle is a PSA 10 but you are hanging in there as an 8 with a chance to bump to a 8.5.
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
It will be interesting to see if they grade them. I buy and sell junior hockey cards. Some of them are made by companies like Choice or Extreme and PSA always grades those. But many teams have their cards printed at their local print shops and I've sent it cards from around 25 different sets like that and it's been close to 50-50 on whether they get graded or not.
Another wrestling collector from Florida is really into meeting the wrestlers and being their vendor at conventions. He got in touch with Haku-Meng-Prince Tonga last night and he knew he had taken a photo for a card but never saw it.
In April next year I will definitely hit up the conventions when they come to Orlando for Wrestlemania week and show him the card. Hopefully it is in a PSA slab.
It was so crazy. I literally checked my email on my phone thinking I had a response coming. There was one!!!
So this is great news. PSA is going to grade all 23 cards from the pack including the header card.
The official name is 1979 Gulas/Rax Roast Beef Championship Wrestling. I sent my thoughts and also said I thought having Rax Roast Beef in the title would be the best as collectors have chased the elusive Rax cards for quite sometime and I am thrilled with the title.
I will be sending these in very shortly to get the entire set graded. I am pumped!
I think you will win a PSA award for as long as you want to after getting the entire set graded by PSA. Great job.....persistence pays off.
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Adding the header card to the set is really exciting as the odds of many still existing are quite low and when I do a digital album it will add to the story.
I haven't used my 15 card voucher so I am going most likely buy another one and just send them in on a faster service level.
The cards are similar size to the Carnation cards and I love how they look in a graded slab.
I wonder if cards have been named after alcohol product? I am trying to think of instances where that has occurred in the past.........Still doesn't with this title but are there any Coors Light, Budweiser cards, etc?
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Originally posted by: wrestlingcardking I wonder if cards have been named after alcohol product? I am trying to think of instances where that has occurred in the past.........Still doesn't with this title but are there any Coors Light, Budweiser cards, etc?
Yes, there's a BkB Miller Lite set from Star. 1985, I think.
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
I am working with someone in the research department currently and will be getting them this evening all pertinent information that pertains to the cards.
I am really hoping we can get these babies in a PSA slab!
Originally posted by: Dpeck100 Sumo it certainly could.
I am working with someone in the research department currently and will be getting them this evening all pertinent information that pertains to the cards.
I am really hoping we can get these babies in a PSA slab!
Seems like a conflict of interest, no?
I do not understand this post either. If anything, I think it is great if someone could use their expertise to build the database, or knowledge of PSA. It does not matter what sport or non-sport issue that you are talking about. Considering this was a sealed set in a cello pack, this is a slam dunk for PSA. There are some of these cards floating out there, and I am sure that the other collectors that would appreciate Dpeck assisting PSA with this issue. I know of one of my friends who sent in the David Schultz to PSA. It may not have been slabbed without Dpeck making some headway with PSA. I personally have no doubts about this set and believe it should be recognized by PSA.
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
I am going to say it is probably best not to engage this.
I am buying and trading for RC's of Wilt Chamberlain, George Mikan, Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Bob Cousy! Don't waste your time and fees listing on ebay before getting in touch me by PM or at gregmo32@aol.com !
The Dr. David Shultz card would certainly be helped by this clip.
That combined with Hulk Hogan putting Belzer in a sleeper hold and then just dropping him so his head got busted really put an end to those type of questions.
Successful coin BST transactions with Gerard and segoja.
Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
I purchased another 15 card voucher so that I could send the entire set in at the same time and just have them separated into two orders. I used the online submission for the first time and it was amazing. I have really sloppy hand writing so it I am sure made it easier for whomever was processing my order. They are logged and I am awaiting the grades.
On a different note I had the opportunity to have dinner last night with Haku or known in this set as Prince Tonga. He lives in Central Florida and a fellow wrestling card collector organized the dinner as he was up from Miami for a conference. We had a great time! He is such a nice guy and we chatted it up for three and a half hours and closed down the restaurant. Greg is a vendor at many of the wrestling conventions and was trying to secure him for next year when Wrestlemania comes to Orlando and the huge Wrestlecon event takes place.
We talked about a ton of topics and it was really cool to see two of the waiters "mark out" for him. We let them engage in the conversation and here the stories he was telling. I showed him the Rax set from my phone and he did confirm he had never seen the card.
His personal story is amazing and he left the island of Tonga at 14 to pursue rugby and then was selected to join a sumo wrestling organization. Greg was able to get a few of his very rare cards from Japan signed and a Market Scene card that I brought for him. I gave two copies to him to take home and he was very pleased.
We knocked back a number of drinks and it was so much fun to get to talk to him for so long. We talked about some of his infamous altercations outside of the ring and some of his more memorable moments in the ring. From Andre to Brody to Abdullah to Goldberg it was great. It sounded like Greg got him to agree to be able to represent him next year so all parties left very happy.
Awesome! Great story and pictures....those sumo wrestling cards look familiar! Had he ever seen those before? It would have been great to hear about his time in Japan.
No Star Power, I'm An old time wrestling fan and the fact that it has a Robert Gibson pre rock-roll express and both of the original members of the Midnight express is cool enough for me. If you loved the Mid Atlantic area and older WWF then this sets a gem IMO.
That's pushing it, Mick. I loved the old NWA guys too, but the set if butt ugly. Dr. D and Robert Gibson don't make this worth the paper it is printed on, no matter how much anyone wants to spin this.
I don't like the look of the set, although the pabst blue ribbon symbol reminds me of my dad and lol it just seems to fit with the old Tennessee promotion. I always liked the original Midnight express. I could see it being a few hundred dollars for the scarcity factor. I can't see huge money for it but I think the regional factor makes it unique enough to be kinda cool. I by no means am a wrestling collector but if I was it would be old NWA or territory type memerobilia.
I have been actively collecting wrestling cards for over seven years. This set has eluded me and every other wrestling card collector during that time. This isn't about value it is about the chase and capture.
There is tremendous feeling of looking for something religiously for a long time and actually finding it. To be the first collector to get to even see what is in the set is what makes collecting fun.
I paid $2,000 for the set and will essentially spend $400 getting them graded. I don't care if they are worth more or less than I have in them. I collect to make me happy.
Certainly this set doesn't have the star power of others but part of collecting is finding truly rare items. This is one of them.
I don't have any illusions that there is some huge market for many of these cards but the same can be said for many sets that are obscure from all genres.
If cards were just about money to me I would have sold many as time has gone on. No one needs 20 copies of the 1982 Wrestling All Stars Hulk Hogan. No one needs 15 complete PSA graded Wrestling All Stars sets. But guess what I like owning them and continue to be a net buyer of wrestling cards.
Collecting is one of the few things in life that is just about me. When I go to work and make money it takes my effort but much of my effort goes to taking care of my wife. The only person who cares about my collection is me and I love it.
Once all 23 cards are graded there is a very real chance that you won't ever see another complete registry set. My plan once I get them back is to contact the registry folks and get the set in the system and then create a digital album to showcase this rare set from wrestling's past. Some of the cards will grade high and some will probably grade low but for me the value is in just having them.
Originally posted by: Tlollarbe This thread got bumped again, seriously?
Perhaps the ugliest set of cards I've ever seen with absolutely no star power.
If you were to disappear from these forums it'd be no loss to the community...you've done nothing to further the hobby....you have a mere 21 posts with 20 of those making yourself a fool. If David disappeared we'd lose a true wrestling card history asset. For as much knowledge as you are claiming to have on wrestling, you bring nothing to the game. But then again you are only on these forums to stir things up so you'll only end up coming up with some lame rhetoric to this post to justify yourself and we'll have to continue to scroll past your crap until you get bored and leave.
Dpeck, I don't think you needed to explain anything about what your intentions are to any real collecter on the board. Being passionate about your sets and your hobby is a trait I'm sure the bulk of us share. If you were to find two complete sets and grade them and they were the only two around and could sell one for big money then more power to you. That makes you no less of the passionate collecter in my eyes. I am by no means wealthy but if I can make money thru my hobby to help facilitate more collecting or to help me continue to enjoy my hobby then I'll do it every time. Like I said I'm no wrestling collecter but I know you had your set covered in a SMR recently and that's just freaking cool, I think there's a little jealousy going on with whoever this guy is knocking your desire for these cards.
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1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Cover card (Coupon for free fries)
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - * Nick Gulas (promoter)
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Dennis Condry
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - * Mike St. John
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - * Tommy Sloan (referree)
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - George Gulas
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - * Len Rossi
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Hans Shroeder
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Robert Gibson
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - * Donna Bower
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Tojo Yamamoto
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Pat Smith
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Bobby Eaton
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - * Tommy Kerkeles
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - The Red Terror
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Tommy Resesto, Jr.
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Cheif Thundercloud
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Ken Lucas
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - * Tommy Resesto, Sr.
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - David Shultz
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Ricky Gibson
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Jerry Barber
1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling - Prince Tonga
Note: Sealed sets were distributed to the first 1200 attendees at the Sport Arena at the Tenness State Fairgrounds on November 21, 1979.
Note: Non-wrestlers designated above with "*"
Note: Cards are unnumbered.
Note: Cards were sponsored by Rax Roast Beef Restuarants and Pabst Blue Ribbon
Note: Order the cards above shown in order from an opened sealed pack.
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Since they weren't the lone sponsor and weren't given out at the restaurants it just wouldn't make since to call them this.
The only reason to use the name Rax Roast Beef in the title would be because the header card says it and one would have associated the set with that name.
I haven't spoken to PSA's research department yet but this could be a stumbling block.
What do you call them?
I would love to hear others thoughts. Personally I would rather the name Rax be associated with them as I have been dying to own the Rax cards but the purest in me thinks this is wrong.
Please share some thoughts fellow collectors.
Edit: Post from another board.
Title would be 1979 - Gulas N.W.A. Mid America Championship Wrestling
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I am working with someone in the research department currently and will be getting them this evening all pertinent information that pertains to the cards.
I am really hoping we can get these babies in a PSA slab!
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
There is another wrestling collector I am friends with on Facebook who is making a fake Dr. D card to get signed. A few days ago I saw a notification and it was him tagging me in this photo shopped card.
It goes well with my Rollins All Stars card from years ago that Mcadams made of me as a joke!
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
In April next year I will definitely hit up the conventions when they come to Orlando for Wrestlemania week and show him the card. Hopefully it is in a PSA slab.
So this is great news. PSA is going to grade all 23 cards from the pack including the header card.
The official name is 1979 Gulas/Rax Roast Beef Championship Wrestling. I sent my thoughts and also said I thought having Rax Roast Beef in the title would be the best as collectors have chased the elusive Rax cards for quite sometime and I am thrilled with the title.
I will be sending these in very shortly to get the entire set graded. I am pumped!
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Adding the header card to the set is really exciting as the odds of many still existing are quite low and when I do a digital album it will add to the story.
I haven't used my 15 card voucher so I am going most likely buy another one and just send them in on a faster service level.
The cards are similar size to the Carnation cards and I love how they look in a graded slab.
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
I wonder if cards have been named after alcohol product? I am trying to think of instances where that has occurred in the past.........Still doesn't with this title but are there any Coors Light, Budweiser cards, etc?
Yes, there's a BkB Miller Lite set from Star. 1985, I think.
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Sumo it certainly could.
I am working with someone in the research department currently and will be getting them this evening all pertinent information that pertains to the cards.
I am really hoping we can get these babies in a PSA slab!
Seems like a conflict of interest, no?
Sumo it certainly could.
I am working with someone in the research department currently and will be getting them this evening all pertinent information that pertains to the cards.
I am really hoping we can get these babies in a PSA slab!
Seems like a conflict of interest, no?
I do not understand this post either. If anything, I think it is great if someone could use their expertise to build the database, or knowledge of PSA. It does not matter what sport or non-sport issue that you are talking about. Considering this was a sealed set in a cello pack, this is a slam dunk for PSA. There are some of these cards floating out there, and I am sure that the other collectors that would appreciate Dpeck assisting PSA with this issue. I know of one of my friends who sent in the David Schultz to PSA. It may not have been slabbed without Dpeck making some headway with PSA. I personally have no doubts about this set and believe it should be recognized by PSA.
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
In what respect?
Seriously?
Don't waste your time and fees listing on ebay before getting in touch me by PM or at gregmo32@aol.com !
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The Dr. David Shultz card would certainly be helped by this clip.
That combined with Hulk Hogan putting Belzer in a sleeper hold and then just dropping him so his head got busted really put an end to those type of questions.
Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
On a different note I had the opportunity to have dinner last night with Haku or known in this set as Prince Tonga. He lives in Central Florida and a fellow wrestling card collector organized the dinner as he was up from Miami for a conference. We had a great time! He is such a nice guy and we chatted it up for three and a half hours and closed down the restaurant. Greg is a vendor at many of the wrestling conventions and was trying to secure him for next year when Wrestlemania comes to Orlando and the huge Wrestlecon event takes place.
We talked about a ton of topics and it was really cool to see two of the waiters "mark out" for him. We let them engage in the conversation and here the stories he was telling. I showed him the Rax set from my phone and he did confirm he had never seen the card.
His personal story is amazing and he left the island of Tonga at 14 to pursue rugby and then was selected to join a sumo wrestling organization. Greg was able to get a few of his very rare cards from Japan signed and a Market Scene card that I brought for him. I gave two copies to him to take home and he was very pleased.
We knocked back a number of drinks and it was so much fun to get to talk to him for so long. We talked about some of his infamous altercations outside of the ring and some of his more memorable moments in the ring. From Andre to Brody to Abdullah to Goldberg it was great. It sounded like Greg got him to agree to be able to represent him next year so all parties left very happy.
We took a few pics and here they are.
It was nice to see him get excited to see his tough to find cards.
Perhaps the ugliest set of cards I've ever seen with absolutely no star power.
I purchased another 15 card voucher so that I could send the entire set in at the same time and just have them separated into two orders.
This is the set that you called up and personally begged them to add to the registry and they did in a week?
LOL.
An old time wrestling fan and the fact that it has a Robert Gibson pre rock-roll express and both of the original members of the Midnight express is cool enough for me. If you loved the Mid Atlantic area and older WWF then this sets a gem IMO.
My life is good bro.
The guys were right in what they told me.
There is tremendous feeling of looking for something religiously for a long time and actually finding it. To be the first collector to get to even see what is in the set is what makes collecting fun.
I paid $2,000 for the set and will essentially spend $400 getting them graded. I don't care if they are worth more or less than I have in them. I collect to make me happy.
Certainly this set doesn't have the star power of others but part of collecting is finding truly rare items. This is one of them.
I don't have any illusions that there is some huge market for many of these cards but the same can be said for many sets that are obscure from all genres.
If cards were just about money to me I would have sold many as time has gone on. No one needs 20 copies of the 1982 Wrestling All Stars Hulk Hogan. No one needs 15 complete PSA graded Wrestling All Stars sets. But guess what I like owning them and continue to be a net buyer of wrestling cards.
Collecting is one of the few things in life that is just about me. When I go to work and make money it takes my effort but much of my effort goes to taking care of my wife. The only person who cares about my collection is me and I love it.
Once all 23 cards are graded there is a very real chance that you won't ever see another complete registry set. My plan once I get them back is to contact the registry folks and get the set in the system and then create a digital album to showcase this rare set from wrestling's past. Some of the cards will grade high and some will probably grade low but for me the value is in just having them.
This thread got bumped again, seriously?
Perhaps the ugliest set of cards I've ever seen with absolutely no star power.
If you were to disappear from these forums it'd be no loss to the community...you've done nothing to further the hobby....you have a mere 21 posts with 20 of those making yourself a fool. If David disappeared we'd lose a true wrestling card history asset. For as much knowledge as you are claiming to have on wrestling, you bring nothing to the game. But then again you are only on these forums to stir things up so you'll only end up coming up with some lame rhetoric to this post to justify yourself and we'll have to continue to scroll past your crap until you get bored and leave.
collecter on the board. Being passionate about your sets and your hobby is a trait I'm
sure the bulk of us share. If you were to find two complete sets and grade them and they were the only two around and could sell one for big money then more power to you. That makes you no less of the passionate collecter in my eyes. I am by no means wealthy but if I can make money thru my hobby to help facilitate more collecting or to help me continue to enjoy my hobby then I'll do it every time. Like I said I'm no wrestling collecter but I know you had your set covered in a SMR recently and that's just freaking cool, I think there's a little jealousy going on with whoever this guy is knocking your desire for these cards.