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Big exonumia bulk bag! Live cherrypicking! (I'll gradually continue posting stuff as it comes out)

lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 22, 2019 12:13AM in U.S. Coin Forum
I bought a big sack of miscellaneous exonumia last summer and have only partly gone through it.

In addition to the usual scores of modern arcade tokens and Depression-era tax tokens, there were some interesting pieces. I saw some cull Hard Times tokens and a Conder or two in there. Plus quite a few medals, old and new.

I haven't even scratched the surface yet. Might post more stuff as it comes out of the bag, if anyone is interested in seeing it.

I figured this bag would be a fun "rainy day" project and give me some stuff to research a little.

Plus, it's the sort of stuff one can flip on eBay with no fear of any downside, because after all, since it was a big bulk bag purchase, I have only a few cents invested in each piece.

Here are just the most recent to come out of the bag, with standard apologies for my photography.


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  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like them.
    Good history lessons in just those two.
    Lindbergh sure was the man back then.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Indeed.

    Both of these are about half dollar sized.

    According to one source I found, the Olympia medal was struck circa 1960, but of course with bronze from the ship's propeller. In closed eBay auctions, some have gone for as much as thirty bucks, which ain't bad considering I have a nickel or dime invested in this one.

    The Lindbergh 'coin' was struck by Whitehead & Hoag and I'm pretty sure it's contemporary to the era of his flight.

    More later tonight, if y'all wanna see 'em. I'm gonna need help ID-ing some of this stuff.
  • CoinZipCoinZip Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭


    Cool stuff.... its fun to dig through bulk bags.

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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,391 ✭✭✭
    top one is way kool
    "made from the prop"...image
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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 12,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,165 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am 98% sure I have one of those Lucky Lindy coins with a rim clip. I love bags like the one you're describing, please continue to post the neater stuff you find as you rummage through it.


    Sean Reynolds
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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool stuff! image

    For those that do not know it, the USS Olympia can be visited in Philadelphia. I would STRONGLY recommend that those that are interested in American history visit the USS Olympia. I've included a link to it. Unfortunately I have heard that due to the costs of keeping it afloat during a downturn in the US economy, the odds are that she will finally be scrapped. So, if you are interested in walking through a piece of US (and world) history I STRONGLY suggest that you go now to see it... and hopefully make a donation, even if it be only a dollar, to keep it afloat.


    USS Olympia site
  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,792 ✭✭✭
    Love 'em!

    Please do post more as you dig through the bag. Fun stuff.

  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey, neato. I just found ANOTHER of those USS Olympia medals in the bag. Not as nice as the one posted above- it has a little verdigris- but after a little Renaissance Wax treatment it should be not too bad.

    Just found somebody's WW2 Navy Reserve dog tag, with the chain still attached. And some really nasty CWTs and HTTs. Pictures coming momentarily.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is William Taft Evans' US Navy Reserve dogtag, presumably from WW2, with the chain still attached.

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    And some really nasty Hard Times tokens and Civil War tokens.

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    Forgot to bring the camera with me tonight, so we're relying on a flatbed scanner here at work. (Which is where my SDB is.)

    More to come...
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,391 ✭✭✭
    wow
    this is getting interesting with those civial war and hardtimes tokens

    you got a bag of goodies thus far

    slow n steady...no need to rush this thread...a couple a day is working great as this thread is up n rolling nowimage

    congrats too
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eh, I'll crank 'em out as I get 'em imaged, late nights here at work after all the guests have checked in.

    This one is a military ID badge, I believe. You could order them from a mailorder catalog, and have your name and information engraved on those little "waves" in front of the shield.

    Obviously this one is still blank, and never got engraved. Interesting that it seems to have gotten a little bit of wear, though.

    I recall seeing these somewhere before, but now I can't seem to Google up the right kind.

    Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's 19th century, though whether it's from the Civil War or Spanish-American War or even as late as WW1, I don't know. I think WW1 is a bit late.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This one is pretty interesting. It's a 1934 Lincoln cent, but the reverse seems to have been encased in some kind of copper shell which commemorates the fire aboard the SS Morro Castle in 1934, the same year as on the coin. Why someone would make a souvenir to commemorate a disaster which killed 137 people is anyone's guess. I must admit it's pretty interesting 80 years after the fact, though.

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    OK, maybe one or two more for tonight, and I'll give it a rest.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This one's pretty self-explanatory, I guess.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting spiel marke tokens. Unless that one in the middle is a 1906-D aluminum pattern for a $10 Eagle. Haha.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A watch fob from the Exposition Universelle de Paris in 1889, which of course the event for which the Eiffel Tower was built.

    And an interesting WW1 military reunion token from 1931. The watch fob is about 31 mm in diameter, i.e. roughly half-dollar sized.

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    And I guess I'll give y'all a break and call it a night for this.
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,391 ✭✭✭
    that last marke token center is sweet
    aluminum back in the day was considered a precious metal to a degree

    this bag you got rocks

    any shot of the size of the bag to give that a feel for how big this is ?
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Why someone would make a souvenir to commemorate a disaster which killed 137 people is anyone's guess. I must admit it's pretty interesting 80 years after the fact, though. >>




    Here's where that Morro Castle cent came from:

    "In the intervening months, because of its proximity to the boardwalk and the Asbury Park Convention Hall pier, from which it was possible to wade out and touch the wreck with one's hands, the wreck was treated as a destination for sightseeing trips, complete with stamped penny souvenirs and postcards for sale"


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    Ed
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>that last marke token center is sweet
    aluminum back in the day was considered a precious metal to a degree >>

    Yep. That piece looks a little better in hand. The scanner picked up the scratches on it and made 'em look worse.



    << <i>this bag you got rocks

    any shot of the size of the bag to give that a feel for how big this is ? >>

    It's a cloth bank bag, like the US Mint ships cents in. I dunno, I'd say there's five pounds in here at least.

    GrumpyEd- thanks! Had I bothered to read the full text of the Wikipedia article I'd linked up (or thought I'd linked up, 'cause I botched it), there it was, staring right at me. image

    However, I suspect the "stamped penny" souvenirs the article mentions were mostly elongated cents like this. But of course the "shell encased" one I have probably has a similar backstory.
  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,210 ✭✭✭
    Cool stuff. Keep gettin' those fingers dirty and post more pics!
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  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 4,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice collection, LM!

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice collection, LM!

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    The Swami sees an Egyptian Magic Coin in your future.

    image >>


    Actually, I found a Swami token just like that in here.

    There was one of those "Egyptian magic coins" too, and I set aside for you last year.... but now I have no idea where. image
  • librtyheadlibrtyhead Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭
    I like that swami coin! And your pictures are fine, much better than mine, hope you have a great time, did you find any dimes?
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 27,304 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

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    Looks like a winner here.

    I've never seen it before, anyway.
    Tempus fugit.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I stuck this first round of stuff on eBay and it did pretty well. The WW2 and Civil War dogtag pair was the best, closing for over $30. Not bad, considering I only had pennies in each piece.

    But the cool thing is that "Morro Castle" encased Lincoln cent was bought by the curator of the New Jersey Maritime Museum!

    I thought that it was pretty neat that it was going to become a museum piece, so I gave her a $10 rebate. (The token closed for $22-something, so I've still got over ten bucks profit there.)

    Might get around to scanning the next wave of cherrypicks soon.

    PS @ Swampboy- since you didn't win the USS Olympia propeller medal, watch your mailbox! (Remember, I found another one in the bag, which is now on its way to you.) image
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great thread! Keep it coming!

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  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,058 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great fun--even vicariously.

    Keep 'em coming
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NY World's Fair medal from 1939. Met Life.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Green River Whiskey, circa 1935.

    "The Whiskey Without Regrets".

    Ha. I rather doubt that.

    Then again, the whiskey was an inanimate liquid. It couldn't have any regrets.

    The people who drank the whiskey, on the other hand... they might've had one or two.

    I dug one of these tokens while detecting, once. No regrets about that- it was a fun find.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Promotional token for the 1938 Warner Brothers movie musical Gold Diggers In Paris.

    Must've been a pretty racy number by the standards of the day. <*wolf whistle*>

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This little medalet is neat. Nice quality and high relief, too. Rather thick, but not a large-diameter piece. Any ideas?

    Obviously Abe Lincoln on one side. Looks like maybe U.S. Grant on the other?

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  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,491 ✭✭✭
    Maybe one of these? Ebay listing Text

    "U.S. Mint Medal Medalet No. 615 Abraham Lincoln Ulysses S. Grant 19 mm Bronze

    From the listing This medal was originally issued in 1869. The one being offered is the modern U.S. Mint re-strike which has not been available from the Mint since the 1980s. Struck in Bronze, it is 19 mm (3/4") in diameter."
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It appears that would be the one. Thanks! I hadn't gotten around to searching yet.

    Wonder if mine is a restrike or an original? Probably the former, but it does look a tiny bit different than the one you linked to. Hmm.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 27,304 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You got some great stuff here.

    The Met Life medal isn't especially tough but most examples look pretty bad. Nice examples
    are underappreciated.
    Tempus fugit.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That one actually looks a bit nicer in person. These images were done on a flatbed scanner. Has a little rub on the globe, but it's nice and bright.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,545 ✭✭✭✭
    You should bury it in your backyard first and then go digging
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>But the cool thing is that "Morro Castle" encased Lincoln cent was bought by the curator of the New Jersey Maritime Museum! >>



    Deb Whitcraft, curator of the museum, is sending me a copy of her book about the Morro Castle disaster, which is shown on that page I linked to. How cool is that? I probably should refund the rest of her money so the encased cent can be a donation. Gave her a $10 rebate when I heard the coin was going to the museum, but if she's giving me a $30 book and paying to ship it, why keep the measly 12 bucks remaining from what I got off the sale? It's not like the encased cent cost me anything much in the first place.

    More scans from the bag late tonight, if my hotel guests aren't too restless.
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,391 ✭✭✭
    as the sweet lil cherries keep falling from this tree

    "Must've been a pretty racy number by the standards of the day. <*wolf whistle*>"

    just wait
    their could be some nevada tokens in there that surely can raise an eye brow or 2
    probably best not to post um though to spare one's self from being banned

    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>as the sweet lil cherries keep falling from this tree

    "Must've been a pretty racy number by the standards of the day. <*wolf whistle*>"

    just wait
    their could be some nevada tokens in there that surely can raise an eye brow or 2
    probably best not to post um though to spare one's self from being banned >>



    Don't recall seeing any of those yet, but fasten your seatbelts. I found some swastika stuff.
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 7,567 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool stuff. Found that exact Paris exposition fob with my metal detector.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 87,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some great stuff there LordM.... where did you get the bag? Look forward to more of your finds....Cheers, RickO
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bought the bag from my oldest numismatic friend, Michael Swoveland ("Aethelred"), when I visited him in NC last July or thereabouts.

    I'd snap a group shot of the whole bag but have sort of presorted it into a bunch of smaller bags, so I don't want to mess up what little organization there is.

    Last night didn't work out for scanning more, 'cause drunk wedding guests invaded my hotel lobby and ruined the usual graveyard shift peace.

    Might go in tonight (off duty, off the clock), just to use their better computer and speedier connection and access my safe deposit box. It's great having my SDB at work because it is accesible and attended 24 hours a day, is free, and is 3x the size of the one I used to rent at the bank.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll turn back the clock a little to show some stuff that already came out of the bag a while back and sold on eBay this summer.

    1935 Mercury dime ring:

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    1926 Lincoln cent in Rundback's Jewelers (NYC) horseshoe-shaped encasement:

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    WW2 Office of Price Administration food rationing points (red & blue fiber tokens):

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    Assorted Depression-era sales tax tokens:

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Back to the present.

    What's ths stuff? Oh. Mardi Gras doubloons and wooden nickels.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's the Swami. WillieBoyd2 foreshadowed it with his, above.

    Note the use of swastikas on both sides. This is circa 1930s, just before WW2 when the Nazis spoiled the swastika forever. Prior to them, it had been a good luck symbol, as you see it in this context. The swastika in the crystal ball on this piece runs counterclockwise, like the ancient Zoroastrian symbol. The one on the reverse runs clockwise, like the one the Nazis ripped off. Note the other lucky symbols.

    Neat piece. I found one of these while detecting, too. It was in an old park, only about an inch deep in an area that had yielded a lot of Indian cents, V-nickels, and a Barber dime or two, and the signal about blasted my ears off. In sandy soil, it was gorgeously preserved for a dug find, but is much darker brown than this one. This one could use a little Vaseline rub and I think the 1:00 obverse scuz would come off OK. My dug one is actually in equal or better condition than this one.

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    Speaking of swastikas...

    Hm. I wonder who this guy is.

    Eh, probably some obscure German or Austrian dude nobody ever heard of.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This one was a headscratcher for me until I did a little Googling.

    The portrait on this ca. 1916 medal features WW1 French general Joseph Gallieni.

    It was created by sculptor Auguste Maillard.

    Fun find, IMHO.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Speaking of World War One and militaristic stuff, here are two from the opposite side: a pretty decent pair of German iron kriegsgeld 10-pfennig tokens.

    I had one of those "Vaterland" ones before, with the muscular munitions lady slinging around huge artillery shells. Cool stuff.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    More German notgeld-y stuff, from roughly the same era.

    Whoops! There's a French spy in the mix. (The big aluminum one.)

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 42,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Old tool checks, I suppose. Look to be 19th century. The round one could have been overstruck on a copper coin, but if so, not a trace of the undertype remains.

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