Here is a small white holder but the odd thing about this one is the serial number and the 1922 date the "XA" was a show submission and there is nothing special about the date or being a special VAM by all, it is just a common 1922 Peace dollar. That someone submitted at some show. Maybe a ANA show in 1989.
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There are 22 different letter/number combanitions for these early serial number holders. And yes I do collect the holder and I'am trying to put together a set of all the different serial number holders. Just one from each letter combo slab.
Question: Any clue what the lowest # with a bar code is? No
But I have seen s/n 42 It is a 1888-O Morgan dollar MS-62, and if you type in s/n 1 at ANACS a 1885-O AU-55 Morgan comes up. But I think these don't have a bar code.
/ Highest number without one? (Bar Code) I am Not sure when the s/n with bar codes started.
/ Any letters with bar codes?? I have not seen any.
As far as the "EX" goes, I have always seen this as put out by AMOS.
No Reverse picture, but the obverse is clearly an Amos label. Here is a close serial number to the one you mention that was put out by the ANA.
<< <i>Question: Any clue what the lowest # with a bar code is? No But I have seen s/n 42 It is a 1888-O Morgan dollar MS-62, and if you type in s/n 1 at ANACS a 1885-O AU-55 Morgan comes up. But I think these don't have a bar code. / Highest number without one? (Bar Code) I am Not sure when the s/n with bar codes started. >>
# 127 just sold on eBay, it HAS a bar code.
<< <i>As far as the "EX" goes, I have always seen this as put out by AMOS. No Reverse picture, but the obverse is clearly an Amos label. Here is a close serial number to the one you mention that was put out by the ANA. >>
Agreed... that is what I had thought for the last year or so until I found EX1885 at a show last month! Between that one and the one you posted we can put a pretty narrow window on it - we know when the Amos sale was signed (July 31, 1990, announced June 24, 1990 - http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1990-06-24/entertainment/9002200933_1_stephen-bobbitt-rare-coins-coin-world). Amos relocated to Ohio around July and I would have to assume changed the slab labels as quick as they could.
At the last ANA show I spoke with Ken Hallenbeck. Ken told me he had been in charge of ANACS up to the sale and that the July 1990 period was pretty wild. Including as he recalls an unofficial competition to slab the weirdest thing possible, won by a piece of orange peel.
coinpictures - love the early ('80) photocert. There is an article available on the web (google Paul ANACS Photo Certs) that says "By the time I started there in late 1978 they were only in the E-xxxx-C block, IIRC." That article references a half dime from '80 with an different E-xxxx-G serial, but also AU50/AU50 grade!
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<< <i>I did mention it was for sale, just didn't give you enough info to snipe it from under me... FWIW, #75 sold this morning... >>
I did find it under the close listing (#127) and I fixed my searches to come up with the way it was described. I would have never found it with the seller’s description anyway, unless I did a complete search with only ANACS. Plus if they don’t show the holder in the main picture I don’t have time to open every ANACS listed coin. Found (#75) And again there was just not enough info in the discription for me to find it.
<< <i>... if they don’t show the holder in the main picture I don’t have time to open every ANACS listed coin. >>
You have found my secret. When I decide to ride the exercise bike instead of walking, paging through eBay listings is a wonderfully mindless way to pass the time.
I do think there is a lesson for all of us - when the time comes to sell something - craft your listing so that people who are looking for what you have to sell can actuall find it. I have several searches I'm following, but between eBay's limitations and the lousy quality of listing descriptions they are largely useless.
For example, I was looking for an inexpensive old Compugrade holder for over six months. There are two that have been for sale for a long, long time. One is accurately listed but out of my price range. One is part of a lot that is too expensive for the one holder I want when combined with 5 pieces of junk... the one I finally found was listed as obsolete ms 63 (the CompuGrade tip off is the fractional grade, it was really 62.7)
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<< <i>... if they don’t show the holder in the main picture I don’t have time to open every ANACS listed coin. >>
You have found my secret. When I decide to ride the exercise bike instead of walking, paging through eBay listings is a wonderfully mindless way to pass the time.
I do think there is a lesson for all of us - when the time comes to sell something - craft your listing so that people who are looking for what you have to sell can actuall find it. I have several searches I'm following, but between eBay's limitations and the lousy quality of listing descriptions they are largely useless.
For example, I was looking for an inexpensive old Compugrade holder for over six months. There are two that have been for sale for a long, long time. One is accurately listed but out of my price range. One is part of a lot that is too expensive for the one holder I want when combined with 5 pieces of junk... the one I finally found was listed as obsolete ms 63 (the CompuGrade tip off is the fractional grade, it was really 62.7) >>
Thanks for the PM BStrauss3, I have tried to reply but you are not receiving any PMs.
<< <i>Here's a couple of toned capped bust halves in the old ANACS holders. Even though I'm a PCGS fan, I love these small ANACS holders! The images are courtesy of BluCC Photos.
<< <i>Had this one a little while back. Can't recall ever seeing one with a 5 digit serial number - anyone else have one of these?
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When ANACS switched from letters and numbers (AB 1234) to only numbers (123456) they had a system where the first two numbers indicated a particular series, with the last four number coming in order. If the first two numbers were 01 to 09, the computer would drop the zero and you would have a 5 digit number. They produced a few orders using '00' as the first two, producing numbers as small as single or two digit.
<< <i>When ANACS switched from letters and numbers (AB 1234) to only numbers (123456) they had a system where the first two numbers indicated a particular series, with the last four number coming in order. If the first two numbers were 01 to 09, the computer would drop the zero and you would have a 5 digit number. They produced a few orders using '00' as the first two, producing numbers as small as single or two digit. >>
The problem is it's never quite that simple (grin)
ANACS first did the photo certs, initially without and then with (submitters option) grades. Paul's article (PHOTO CERTIFICATION HISTORY By Robert J. Paul), here, extensively quotes Tom DeLorey "who was at ANACS at the start of the grading process" and indicates A-nnnn-X through C-nnnn-X were the three ledgers they used to record incoming coins, using one ledger each day. So you can't really sequence A, B, C.
When they moved to Colorado, they weren't sure about D, so they started using E-nnnn-X, F-nnnn-X, etc. Paul doesn't say, but he gives an example of a G coin that counts A, B, C, E and F as graded before G, implying they didn't use multiple ledgers simultaneously.
At some point, G-xxxx-something they switched to two letters + 4 numbers. In the Paul article is a photcert+slab numbered WR9858 (Paul's "Type 9"). There are also photocerts (only) with THREE letters and three numbers in the Paul article ("type 10") and seen on eBay. How to map THESE to the ANACS database is not known and not covered in the published ANACS conversion chart.
The ANACS website has a mapping from the 2 letters to a prefix for doing lookups. WR9858 is 249858 and in fact verifies to the coin in the photocert.
Not all the numbers are in use for the conversion, there are 23 letter pairs and the highest conversion is 27xxxx. 7, 10, 11, 15, 21 and 22 are not listed in the cross ref.
In 1990 ANA sold ANACS to Amos Press. For a while, Amos continued the 2 letter + 4 number coding, but change the shell to have an A in the interior front right of the plastic (vs. the ANA's lamp of knowledge) and the hologram on the reverse to two As vs. the ANA's form.
By my count and knowledge, Amos used EX, PG, PK, RE, SC, SX, WE and ZD. ANA was CD, EX, JK, KP, LO, LP, MJ, NJ, RD, RE, TR, TS, WD, WR and XA.
The Paul article calls the ANA ones "Type 11" and indicates they were used only for about a year. He calls and the Amos ones "Type 12"
Upstream in this thread is the discovery that my EX1885 is ANA and Bob's EX2701 is Amos. If you consider that they were doing 1000s of coins a month when Whether there are other cross-over letters is not - to me - known.
After the letters, Amos is reported to have slabbed with numbers but no bar code. I haven't seen one of those to examine.
Paul identifies the small slab Amos with bar code as "Type 13" and I have seen examples with serial numbers up into the 3 millions. Paul has a "Type 14" with unknown changes and "Type 15" with the reverse hologram in Gold (vs. Red)
The lowest number only slab I have (seen) is #75. It has a bar code.
Is seems LOGICAL (but unproven) that the sequencing under Amos went from the 2 letter+4 number sequence direct to the pure digit sequence, starting at number 1. Number 1 does verify.
With a series of probes into the ANACS database, I find this:
Certification Number Coin Type Coin Date Mint Denomination Variety Superlative Grade Name (CD) 10001 SILVER COMMEMS 1893 50C COLUMBIAN EXPO 63 (EX) 20007 CAP BUST 1835 5C 61 (JK) 30010 LIBERTY - TYPE 3 1904 $20 58 (KP) 40001 1901 $10 NS (LO) 50001 SEATED - MOTTO 1879 25C 60 (LP) 60001 1892 S $ N1 (MJ) 80001 1878 CC $ 63 (NJ) 90001 1878 CC $ N3 (PG) 100001 MORGAN 1880 S $ 63 (PK) 110001 MORGAN 1900 O/CC $ 63 (RD) 12 (RE) 130001 LIBERTY - CENTS 1908 5C PROOF 64 (SC) 140001 MORGAN 1878 $ 8 TF 64 (SX) 160001 BRIL LINCOLN 1970 S 1C PF LG DATE DDO RD 65 (TR) 17 (TS) 180001 MORGAN 1880 CC $ 63 (WD) 190001 BARBER 1909 O 10C 62 (WE) 200001 MORGAN 1883 S $ 45 (WF) 23 (WR) 240001 TWO CENTS 1865 2C BR 63 (XA) 260001 1943 10C 67 (ZD) 270001 ST GAUDENS MOTTO 1910 $20 60
And also (not mapped to the 2 letter+4number)
70001 TOKELAU ISLANDS 1978 $ TOKELAU ISLANDS PROOF 68 150001 MORGAN 1921 $ MORGAN 64 210001 GR BRIT 1865 SHIL GR BRIT 62 220001 KENNEDY 1973 S 50C PROOF 67 250001 MODERN COMMEMS 1984 D $10 PROOF OLYMPIC 67
To me, as an IT person, this argues that the conversion was done contemporaneously with the slabbing, and that the missing numbers were assigned to letters not found to actually been used and thus recovered for future use. At least that's what I would have done.
So my assumption is the sequence goes
(last 2 letter + 4 number) 1..9999, 70001..79999, 150001..159999, 210001-219999, 220001-229999, 250001-259999, 280001 on up.
But we all know what assumptions bring, vs. real research
Anybody got some images of ANACS photo certificates with dates before March 1, 1979 (pre-grading) and after March 1, 1979 (with a grade, preferably in 1979 or 1980) I can borrow to illustrate a story I am writing?
TD
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That's news to me, sort of cool as it would explain why XA seems uncommon and I haven't been able to pin it down as ANA or Amos. >>
I recently picked up this old ANACS slab... first time I have ever come across a 2 letter - 3 digit cert no. so I just had to have it Perhaps they did this because it was a show submission?
Anyone else have or see one similar to this w/ 2 letters - and less than 4 digits????
illini See page two of this post for some 2 letter serial number coins and a post of what is out there. The XA you have is very nice. I was told by a posted that this letter combo was for the show submitters but I have no other info on that. These come from two different compaines ANA/ANACS and the sale to Amos/ANACS july 1979.
Thanks, bob, I did see that post and that's where I got the info that it might have been a show submission. I just had never seen one with the letters and only 3 digits before and was wondering if anyone else had seen it.
Thanks Burton, when I first did the cert verification on the ANACS site, I too came up with the 18xx IHC and figured the database was just wrong... didn't think of just adding a zero like you did.
I'll need to clean off that sticker residue and get some nicer pics of the coin... the one I posted was just a quick camera phone shot
I'm suspicious of that last 1880-S on page 1 of this thread (with apologies to coinsarefun, the poster). I once owned an 1880-S dollar that looked just like that, and it was artifically frosted. These fake caeos, called "California Specials," were made by coin doctors in the 1990s and earlier. The tipoff of an artificially frosted "California Special" is that the coin doctor usually spilled some specks of the frosting in the fields, leaving white smudges or small spots. Take a closer look at that one with a loupe. Another dead giveaway is that the bagmarks on the cheek are frosted over. Bagmarks on the cheek of a real cameo DMPL will be bright and shiny, unlike the frosted surfaces.
On my 1880-s, the frosting could be wiped off with isopropyl alcohol on a Q-tip. Fortunately, the dealer who sold it to me took it back at full price.
I missed this thread the first time around. I have picked up a few old white anacs holders in the past, and still look for them, and agree that the size and construction were right on the money.
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There are 22 different letter/number combanitions for these early serial number holders.
And yes I do collect the holder and I'am trying to put together a set of all the different serial number holders.
Just one from each letter combo slab.
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<< <i>"XA" was a show submission >>
That's news to me, sort of cool as it would explain why XA seems uncommon and I haven't been able to pin it down as ANA or Amos.
Amos Letters
- EX -
- PG
- PK
- RE
- SC
- SX
- WE
- ZD
Afterwards, Amos seems to have started without letters (the 761 above is mine)Question: Where is the break-point between ANA and Amos? My notes say that EX was Amos, but I just found a low # EX (EX1885) that is ANA??!??!
Question: Any clue what the lowest # with a bar code is? / Highest number without one? Any letters with bar codes??
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But I have seen s/n 42 It is a 1888-O Morgan dollar MS-62, and if you type in s/n 1 at ANACS a 1885-O AU-55 Morgan comes up. But I think these don't have a bar code.
/ Highest number without one? (Bar Code) I am Not sure when the s/n with bar codes started.
/ Any letters with bar codes?? I have not seen any.
As far as the "EX" goes, I have always seen this as put out by AMOS.
No Reverse picture, but the obverse is clearly an Amos label. Here is a close serial number to the one you mention that was put out by the ANA.
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<< <i>Question: Any clue what the lowest # with a bar code is? No
But I have seen s/n 42 It is a 1888-O Morgan dollar MS-62, and if you type in s/n 1 at ANACS a 1885-O AU-55 Morgan comes up. But I think these don't have a bar code.
/ Highest number without one? (Bar Code) I am Not sure when the s/n with bar codes started. >>
# 127 just sold on eBay, it HAS a bar code.
<< <i>As far as the "EX" goes, I have always seen this as put out by AMOS.
No Reverse picture, but the obverse is clearly an Amos label. Here is a close serial number to the one you mention that was put out by the ANA. >>
Agreed... that is what I had thought for the last year or so until I found EX1885 at a show last month! Between that one and the one you posted we can put a pretty narrow window on it - we know when the Amos sale was signed (July 31, 1990, announced June 24, 1990 - http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1990-06-24/entertainment/9002200933_1_stephen-bobbitt-rare-coins-coin-world). Amos relocated to Ohio around July and I would have to assume changed the slab labels as quick as they could.
At the last ANA show I spoke with Ken Hallenbeck. Ken told me he had been in charge of ANACS up to the sale and that the July 1990 period was pretty wild. Including as he recalls an unofficial competition to slab the weirdest thing possible, won by a piece of orange peel.
coinpictures - love the early ('80) photocert. There is an article available on the web (google Paul ANACS Photo Certs) that says "By the time I started there in late 1978 they were only in the E-xxxx-C block, IIRC." That article references a half dime from '80 with an different E-xxxx-G serial, but also AU50/AU50 grade!
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Here is a link to some of my ANACS Slabs.
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Wish I would have seen that cent (sn 127)for sale, I know I would have bid on it.
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<< <i>I did mention it was for sale, just didn't give you enough info to snipe it from under me... FWIW, #75 sold this morning... >>
I did find it under the close listing (#127) and I fixed my searches to come up with the way it was described.
I would have never found it with the seller’s description anyway, unless I did a complete search with only ANACS.
Plus if they don’t show the holder in the main picture I don’t have time to open every ANACS listed coin.
Found (#75) And again there was just not enough info in the discription for me to find it.
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<< <i>... if they don’t show the holder in the main picture I don’t have time to open every ANACS listed coin. >>
You have found my secret. When I decide to ride the exercise bike instead of walking, paging through eBay listings is a wonderfully mindless way to pass the time.
I do think there is a lesson for all of us - when the time comes to sell something - craft your listing so that people who are looking for what you have to sell can actuall find it. I have several searches I'm following, but between eBay's limitations and the lousy quality of listing descriptions they are largely useless.
For example, I was looking for an inexpensive old Compugrade holder for over six months. There are two that have been for sale for a long, long time. One is accurately listed but out of my price range. One is part of a lot that is too expensive for the one holder I want when combined with 5 pieces of junk... the one I finally found was listed as obsolete ms 63 (the CompuGrade tip off is the fractional grade, it was really 62.7)
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<< <i>
<< <i>... if they don’t show the holder in the main picture I don’t have time to open every ANACS listed coin. >>
You have found my secret. When I decide to ride the exercise bike instead of walking, paging through eBay listings is a wonderfully mindless way to pass the time.
I do think there is a lesson for all of us - when the time comes to sell something - craft your listing so that people who are looking for what you have to sell can actuall find it. I have several searches I'm following, but between eBay's limitations and the lousy quality of listing descriptions they are largely useless.
For example, I was looking for an inexpensive old Compugrade holder for over six months. There are two that have been for sale for a long, long time. One is accurately listed but out of my price range. One is part of a lot that is too expensive for the one holder I want when combined with 5 pieces of junk... the one I finally found was listed as obsolete ms 63 (the CompuGrade tip off is the fractional grade, it was really 62.7) >>
Thanks for the PM BStrauss3, I have tried to reply but you are not receiving any PMs.
I like this thread and hope more will add to it.
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<< <i>Here's a couple of toned capped bust halves in the old ANACS holders. Even though I'm a PCGS fan, I love these small ANACS holders! The images are courtesy of BluCC Photos.
Love em! WOW!!!
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<< <i>Had this one a little while back. Can't recall ever seeing one with a 5 digit serial number - anyone else have one of these?
When ANACS switched from letters and numbers (AB 1234) to only numbers (123456) they had a system where the first two numbers
indicated a particular series, with the last four number coming in order. If the first two numbers were 01 to 09, the computer would drop
the zero and you would have a 5 digit number. They produced a few orders using '00' as the first two, producing numbers as small as single or two digit.
<< <i>When ANACS switched from letters and numbers (AB 1234) to only numbers (123456) they had a system where the first two numbers
indicated a particular series, with the last four number coming in order. If the first two numbers were 01 to 09, the computer would drop
the zero and you would have a 5 digit number. They produced a few orders using '00' as the first two, producing numbers as small as single or two digit. >>
The problem is it's never quite that simple (grin)
ANACS first did the photo certs, initially without and then with (submitters option) grades. Paul's article (PHOTO CERTIFICATION HISTORY By Robert J. Paul), here, extensively quotes Tom DeLorey "who was at ANACS at the start of the grading process" and indicates A-nnnn-X through C-nnnn-X were the three ledgers they used to record incoming coins, using one ledger each day. So you can't really sequence A, B, C.
When they moved to Colorado, they weren't sure about D, so they started using E-nnnn-X, F-nnnn-X, etc. Paul doesn't say, but he gives an example of a G coin that counts A, B, C, E and F as graded before G, implying they didn't use multiple ledgers simultaneously.
At some point, G-xxxx-something they switched to two letters + 4 numbers. In the Paul article is a photcert+slab numbered WR9858 (Paul's "Type 9"). There are also photocerts (only) with THREE letters and three numbers in the Paul article ("type 10") and seen on eBay. How to map THESE to the ANACS database is not known and not covered in the published ANACS conversion chart.
The ANACS website has a mapping from the 2 letters to a prefix for doing lookups. WR9858 is 249858 and in fact verifies to the coin in the photocert.
Not all the numbers are in use for the conversion, there are 23 letter pairs and the highest conversion is 27xxxx. 7, 10, 11, 15, 21 and 22 are not listed in the cross ref.
In 1990 ANA sold ANACS to Amos Press. For a while, Amos continued the 2 letter + 4 number coding, but change the shell to have an A in the interior front right of the plastic (vs. the ANA's lamp of knowledge) and the hologram on the reverse to two As vs. the ANA's form.
By my count and knowledge, Amos used EX, PG, PK, RE, SC, SX, WE and ZD. ANA was CD, EX, JK, KP, LO, LP, MJ, NJ, RD, RE, TR, TS, WD, WR and XA.
The Paul article calls the ANA ones "Type 11" and indicates they were used only for about a year. He calls and the Amos ones "Type 12"
Upstream in this thread is the discovery that my EX1885 is ANA and Bob's EX2701 is Amos. If you consider that they were doing 1000s of coins a month when Whether there are other cross-over letters is not - to me - known.
After the letters, Amos is reported to have slabbed with numbers but no bar code. I haven't seen one of those to examine.
Paul identifies the small slab Amos with bar code as "Type 13" and I have seen examples with serial numbers up into the 3 millions. Paul has a "Type 14" with unknown changes and "Type 15" with the reverse hologram in Gold (vs. Red)
The lowest number only slab I have (seen) is #75. It has a bar code.
Is seems LOGICAL (but unproven) that the sequencing under Amos went from the 2 letter+4 number sequence direct to the pure digit sequence, starting at number 1. Number 1 does verify.
With a series of probes into the ANACS database, I find this:
Certification Number Coin Type Coin Date Mint Denomination Variety Superlative Grade Name
(CD) 10001 SILVER COMMEMS 1893 50C COLUMBIAN EXPO 63
(EX) 20007 CAP BUST 1835 5C 61
(JK) 30010 LIBERTY - TYPE 3 1904 $20 58
(KP) 40001 1901 $10 NS
(LO) 50001 SEATED - MOTTO 1879 25C 60
(LP) 60001 1892 S $ N1
(MJ) 80001 1878 CC $ 63
(NJ) 90001 1878 CC $ N3
(PG) 100001 MORGAN 1880 S $ 63
(PK) 110001 MORGAN 1900 O/CC $ 63
(RD) 12
(RE) 130001 LIBERTY - CENTS 1908 5C PROOF 64
(SC) 140001 MORGAN 1878 $ 8 TF 64
(SX) 160001 BRIL LINCOLN 1970 S 1C PF LG DATE DDO RD 65
(TR) 17
(TS) 180001 MORGAN 1880 CC $ 63
(WD) 190001 BARBER 1909 O 10C 62
(WE) 200001 MORGAN 1883 S $ 45
(WF) 23
(WR) 240001 TWO CENTS 1865 2C BR 63
(XA) 260001 1943 10C 67
(ZD) 270001 ST GAUDENS MOTTO 1910 $20 60
And also (not mapped to the 2 letter+4number)
70001 TOKELAU ISLANDS 1978 $ TOKELAU ISLANDS PROOF 68
150001 MORGAN 1921 $ MORGAN 64
210001 GR BRIT 1865 SHIL GR BRIT 62
220001 KENNEDY 1973 S 50C PROOF 67
250001 MODERN COMMEMS 1984 D $10 PROOF OLYMPIC 67
To me, as an IT person, this argues that the conversion was done contemporaneously with the slabbing, and that the missing numbers were assigned to letters not found to actually been used and thus recovered for future use. At least that's what I would have done.
So my assumption is the sequence goes
(last 2 letter + 4 number) 1..9999, 70001..79999, 150001..159999, 210001-219999, 220001-229999, 250001-259999, 280001 on up.
But we all know what assumptions bring, vs. real research
http://anacs.net/anacs_web_reports/serialsearch.php?serial=1
http://anacs.net/anacs_web_reports/serialsearch.php?serial=75
http://anacs.net/anacs_web_reports/serialsearch.php?serial=127
http://anacs.net/anacs_web_reports/serialsearch.php?serial=21885
http://anacs.net/anacs_web_reports/serialsearch.php?serial=22701
http://anacs.net/anacs_web_reports/serialsearch.php?serial=249858
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Here is one with all numbers and no bar code. I do have two of this type of label..
As seen in this thread ATS ANACS SWH thread
Serial number 301175
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Here are some yellow labels that are very rare and I have only seen 3 holders with this type of label.
The reverse has the big ANACS 'A' with it wrote under it. The 68-D Dime has it in red and the 1823 is in gold print.
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TD
a forum member and his son gifted me this
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That is a nice looking Peace Dollar, love the look.
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all are flipped in place...
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<< <i>•XA
<< "XA" was a show submission >>
That's news to me, sort of cool as it would explain why XA seems uncommon and I haven't been able to pin it down as ANA or Amos. >>
I recently picked up this old ANACS slab... first time I have ever come across a 2 letter - 3 digit cert no. so I just had to have it
Anyone else have or see one similar to this w/ 2 letters - and less than 4 digits????
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See page two of this post for some 2 letter serial number coins and a post of what is out there.
The XA you have is very nice. I was told by a posted that this letter combo was for the show submitters but I have no other info on that.
These come from two different compaines ANA/ANACS and the sale to Amos/ANACS july 1979.
ANA/ANACS type
Amos/ANACS type
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It must have been fixed by the Amos days, because my SX0060 shows the 00s.
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Thanks Burton, when I first did the cert verification on the ANACS site, I too came up with the 18xx IHC and figured the database was just wrong... didn't think of just adding a zero like you did.
I'll need to clean off that sticker residue and get some nicer pics of the coin... the one I posted was just a quick camera phone shot
Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 448
Need to submit the fingerprint to AFIS to see who to blame...
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On my 1880-s, the frosting could be wiped off with isopropyl alcohol on a Q-tip. Fortunately, the dealer who sold it to me took it back at full price.
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<< <i>I have had a bunch of these, but they are all in PCGS now. >>
Ditto, to match my Type Collection.
This one was, but I did not get to image the full slab;
PCGS thought otherwise AU55;
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