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20 Proof Shield Nickels - $71,500 (in abandonded safe deposit box)

StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
Saw a news story on abandoned safety deposit boxes here:
http://www.wspa.com/story/26775773/valuables-in-abandoned-safe-deposit-boxes-up-for-auction

Seems the highlight was a collection of shield nickels...
http://bid.yellowtagauctions.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?yellowtag34/41014B012

Just once I'd like my local bank(s) to have a sale like this 8-)

Was quite an assortment of items in this sale
http://bid.yellowtagauctions.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?yellowtag34/category/ALL


Just found this interesting.
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  • ShortgapbobShortgapbob Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭
    The auctioneer was really pushing the Shield Nickel set, making lots of calls and sending out lots of emails.
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  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,759 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I didn't look up valuations but $70k is probably a good deal for the buyer as the 1867 5c pr64 is a $30k+ itself.
    so $40k split among 19 nickels that are all pcgs and look like high grades
    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • dbcoindbcoin Posts: 2,200 ✭✭
    Abandoned? People don't abandon $70K worth of anything. More like confiscation with little effort going to finding the heirs. This is why I don't use a safe deposit box
  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,607 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Abandoned? People don't abandon $70K worth of anything. More like confiscation with little effort going to finding the heirs. This is why I don't use a safe deposit box >>



    1) If the goods were confiscated, there are no legitimate heirs.
    2) If the goods were confiscated, there was good reason for it. The Federales don't confiscate safe deposit box contents on a whim.
    3) If the goods were abandoned, heirs could contact the state excheat office within seven years and claim the goods.
    4) Unless you have an elaborate (and usually expensive) security system, the chance of your coins being stolen is far greater if they are not kept in a safe deposit box
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  • panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Abandoned? People don't abandon $70K worth of anything. More like confiscation with little effort going to finding the heirs. This is why I don't use a safe deposit box >>



    Except that they do.(Saddle Ridge) And the funds from the sale are going to the states Unclaimed Funds account where they can be claimed by heirs.
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,134 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Abandoned? People don't abandon $70K worth of anything. More like confiscation with little effort going to finding the heirs. This is why I don't use a safe deposit box >>



    All the time...ever hear of Alzheimer?
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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Apparently they hadn't been abandoned very long, looking at the blue label PCGS holders most of the nickels are sporting.

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  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Apparently they hadn't been abandoned very long, looking at the blue label PCGS holders most of the nickels are sporting. >>



    When I first read this, I had a hard time understanding why somebody in the coin community, or PCGS would not have some record to help locate the owner. Some of the other coins were mint sets or single gold coins - sure, those would be hard to find - but one would think those in the Shield Nickel community may have at least a lead here.
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  • COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭


    << <i>Abandoned? People don't abandon $70K worth of anything. More like confiscation with little effort going to finding the heirs. This is why I don't use a safe deposit box >>



    If it were taken in a drug raid, for example, then what would contacting heirs have to do with it?

    what state hands over ill-gotten gains to the heirs?
  • COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Abandoned? People don't abandon $70K worth of anything. More like confiscation with little effort going to finding the heirs. This is why I don't use a safe deposit box >>



    1) If the goods were confiscated, there are no legitimate heirs.
    2) If the goods were confiscated, there was good reason for it. The Federales don't confiscate safe deposit box contents on a whim.
    3) If the goods were abandoned, heirs could contact the state excheat office within seven years and claim the goods.
    4) Unless you have an elaborate (and usually expensive) security system, the chance of your coins being stolen is far greater if they are not kept in a safe deposit box >>



    These rules must vary from state to state. In my state the hard goods (in this case, coins) are held at the state's unclaimed property division. No
    need to convert to cash.
    How then, would anyone beable to claim the cash without the goods being around anymore?
  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They are all part of the same series in sequential order, so there has to be some info on how that happened. The OGH was sold at the 2004 Orlando Fun show.

    Nice set of coins, and crazy that they are abandoned.
  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,835 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow - nice coins
  • ianrussellianrussell Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It actually sold for $71,500 plus 15% buyer's fee.

    Wish I could have seen the coins. These were graded a while back - has to be some upgrades there.

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  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,607 ✭✭✭✭✭
    At the last Long Beach show, Bill Shamhart was kind enough to let me view the nicest run of PF Shield Nickels I've ever seen. He also had a complete set of the series.
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  • BaronVonBaughBaronVonBaugh Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It actually sold for $71,500 plus 15% buyer's fee.

    Wish I could have seen the coins. These were graded a while back - has to be some upgrades there.

    - Ian >>



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    Just send in the whole set for regrading. There should be some that would grade another point and probably
    several that would +.
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Given the circumstances, I wonder if PCGS could be contacted as a place to begin to find the rightful owners.
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  • dbcoindbcoin Posts: 2,200 ✭✭


    << <i>Given the circumstances, I wonder if PCGS could be contacted as a place to begin to find the rightful owners. >>



    Are they in a PCGS Registry set listing by chance?

    Seems like this would be a nice service for PCGs to offer; lifetime tracking should an event like this ever occur.

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