I have to agree with this. I spent the day with my 4-year old granddaughter today and just can't imagine 1) whipping someone that small so hard and 2) how bad can a 4-year old be to deserve that type of punishment? And yes, I was spanked as a kid and I did spank my kids.
So what you're saying is, what might be right for you may not be right for some.
Not to come to the defense of the statement, but to believe that the words "thug" and "ghetto" are automatically terms for a certain race, at least to me, shows more of a racist innuendo than the person actually using the words to begin with. Kind of like when someone wants to cut food stamps, some believe it to be a racist action, but arent they in saying that, implying that only minorities use them and need the help, thereby implying that they are weaker?
Race should never enter into a conversation about child abuse, but there is some logic behind the fact that the great majority of NFL incidents like this are by minorities and if thats the case, then perhaps when Peterson says he was brought up that way, he has some credence to his excuse as to why he did it BECAUSE of the race/environment he was brought up around
<< <i>I have to agree with this. I spent the day with my 4-year old granddaughter today and just can't imagine 1) whipping someone that small so hard and 2) how bad can a 4-year old be to deserve that type of punishment? And yes, I was spanked as a kid and I did spank my kids.
So what you're saying is, what might be right for you may not be right for some. >>
My main point was: how bad can a 4-year old be to deserve that type of punishment?
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
The NFL has an image problem and the media will not relent until the season is over. This is bad.
"Nobody's ever gone the distance with Creed, and if I can go that distance, you see, and that bell rings and I'm still standin', I'm gonna know for the first time in my life, see, that I weren't just another bum from the neighborhood."
"The NFL has an image problem and the media will not relent until the season is over. This is bad." That and the fact Jimy Spence and Steve Grad could be in some hot water in October has me on edge about my football items
No surprise. The difference between an All Pro running back who means the difference between wins and losses (AP) and a running back already in decline (Rice).
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<< <i>I believe they had no choice but to reinstate him. Gonna be legal trouble either way. Damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. >>
Not reinstating him would probably incur the wrath of NLFPA union lawyers. I'm a bit surprised they haven't tried to get Ray Rice reinstated, although perhaps they are behind his appeal he is supposed to file today.
And yes, as fergie23 pointed out, AP is a lot bigger star than Rice. AP is literally one of the faces of the NFL. His picture supposedly adorned the game day magazine and season ticket for the Vikes home opener vs the Patriots. He's been on the front of Football card boxes/packs (2013 Topps FB, for example). Just a couple of examples.
It will be interesting to see how this one plays out, both in court and within the NFL and Vikings front offices.
The Vikings could deactivate him and pay him if they wanted without incurring the wrath of the NFLPA. There are no lawsuits involved with deactivating players.
He will undoubtedly plea out to some lesser charge after the season ends with a few hours community service and some parenting lessons. Then the Vikings will announce how sorry he is and suspend him for a couple preseason games next year. The NFL will then say they are leaving discipline to the team in this case and that everyone has learned a valuable lesson. I will be shocked if he misses more than 2 games due to team or league imposed suspensions going forward. Unless of course a video is unearthed of him beating...sorry disciplining his 4 year old with a bloody switch as he cries with blood running down his legs. I was raised to fear the belt (and big ass wooden spoon) but my father was 5-8 160 not 6-1 220 with 5% body fat.
The Vikings could deactivate him and pay him if they wanted without incurring the wrath of the NFLPA. There are no lawsuits involved with deactivating players.
He will undoubtedly plea out to some lesser charge after the season ends with a few hours community service and some parenting lessons. Then the Vikings will announce how sorry he is and suspend him for a couple preseason games next year. The NFL will then say they are leaving discipline to the team in this case and that everyone has learned a valuable lesson. I will be shocked if he misses more than 2 games due to team or league imposed suspensions going forward. Unless of course a video is unearthed of him beating...sorry disciplining his 4 year old with a bloody switch as he cries with blood running down his legs. I was raised to fear the belt (and big ass wooden spoon) but my father was 5-8 160 not 6-1 220 with 5% body fat.
If I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that they'll have theirs, you'll have yours and I'll have mine? And that together we'll be fine?
In a strange way, this may work out for the Vikings. There were many rumors of trading AP or releasing him due to his age and salary. This may have made it easier for them to do just that.
Instead, the decided to reinstate him for this weekend.... hours before new charges surface.
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<< <i>In a strange way, this may work out for the Vikings. There were many rumors of trading AP or releasing him due to his age and salary. This may have made it easier for them to do just that. >>
Bud and Radisson are starting to make noise. The NFL may not have a heart when it comes to these issues, but they do care about money. AP will be taking another week, possible year off. Keep Asiata for now!
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<< <i>Bud and Radisson are starting to make noise. The NFL may not have a heart when it comes to these issues, but they do care about money. AP will be taking another week, possible year off. Keep Asiata for now! >>
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After this guys conviction takes place he will never play again in the NFL..... No way does he escape a convictionon child abuse charges, he will probably do some prison time , his cards are toast just like Ray Rice. Don't they give these NFL players a class on how to handle themselves on the first days? Idiots
Also why is this guy getting paid $695,000.00 A WEEK after badly injuring someone? That I do not understand! This guy is guilty, a true idiot to father children with multiple women is his number 1 problem!
I would think his number one problem would be his tendency to physically abuse very small human beings.
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I know his lawyer successfully defended Roger Clemens, but I don't see how the statement AP released helped his cause. Basically he says that these types of beatings are what made him the man he is today......a child abuser.
No offense to his dad's parenting skills, but his dad spent time in jail for money laundering associated with cocaine dealing. Not exactly Mike Brady.
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So what you're saying is, what might be right for you may not be right for some.
Race should never enter into a conversation about child abuse, but there is some logic behind the fact that the great majority of NFL incidents like this are by minorities and if thats the case, then perhaps when Peterson says he was brought up that way, he has some credence to his excuse as to why he did it BECAUSE of the race/environment he was brought up around
<< <i>I have to agree with this. I spent the day with my 4-year old granddaughter today and just can't imagine 1) whipping someone that small so hard and 2) how bad can a 4-year old be to deserve that type of punishment? And yes, I was spanked as a kid and I did spank my kids.
So what you're saying is, what might be right for you may not be right for some. >>
My main point was: how bad can a 4-year old be to deserve that type of punishment?
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
<< <i>So what you're saying is, what might be right for you may not be right for some. >>
(Diff'rent strokes theme song)
<< <i>My main point was: how bad can a 4-year old be to deserve that type of punishment? >>
The commish has his days numbered.
<< <i>The commish has his days numbered. >>
How does removing Goodell improve anything?
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David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
Just think people will scream for his resignation soon regardless.
Just think people will scream for his resignation soon regardless.
Luckily he was born a man of means.
<< <i>The commish has his days numbered.
Just think people will scream for his resignation soon regardless.
Luckily he was born a man of means. >>
For your listening pleasure... Man of Means
Roger does pretty well. Salary info...
Robb
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<< <i>I believe they had no choice but to reinstate him. Gonna be legal trouble either way. Damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. >>
Not reinstating him would probably incur the wrath of NLFPA union lawyers. I'm a bit surprised they haven't tried to get Ray Rice reinstated, although perhaps they are behind his appeal he is supposed to file today.
And yes, as fergie23 pointed out, AP is a lot bigger star than Rice. AP is literally one of the faces of the NFL. His picture supposedly adorned the game day magazine and season ticket for the Vikes home opener vs the Patriots. He's been on the front of Football card boxes/packs (2013 Topps FB, for example). Just a couple of examples.
It will be interesting to see how this one plays out, both in court and within the NFL and Vikings front offices.
He will undoubtedly plea out to some lesser charge after the season ends with a few hours community service and some parenting lessons. Then the Vikings will announce how sorry he is and suspend him for a couple preseason games next year. The NFL will then say they are leaving discipline to the team in this case and that everyone has learned a valuable lesson. I will be shocked if he misses more than 2 games due to team or league imposed suspensions going forward. Unless of course a video is unearthed of him beating...sorry disciplining his 4 year old with a bloody switch as he cries with blood running down his legs. I was raised to fear the belt (and big ass wooden spoon) but my father was 5-8 160 not 6-1 220 with 5% body fat.
Robb
He will undoubtedly plea out to some lesser charge after the season ends with a few hours community service and some parenting lessons. Then the Vikings will announce how sorry he is and suspend him for a couple preseason games next year. The NFL will then say they are leaving discipline to the team in this case and that everyone has learned a valuable lesson. I will be shocked if he misses more than 2 games due to team or league imposed suspensions going forward. Unless of course a video is unearthed of him beating...sorry disciplining his 4 year old with a bloody switch as he cries with blood running down his legs. I was raised to fear the belt (and big ass wooden spoon) but my father was 5-8 160 not 6-1 220 with 5% body fat.
If I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that they'll have theirs, you'll have yours and I'll have mine? And that together we'll be fine?
I just want to make sure we're on the same page.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11534340/adrian-peterson-minnesota-vikings-facing-second-child-abuse-accusation
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<< <i>In a strange way, this may work out for the Vikings. There were many rumors of trading AP or releasing him due to his age and salary. This may have made it easier for them to do just that. >>
It don't matter what you got, not alot, so what
What does this have to do with anything? Try to stay on topic, this is an important thread that doesn't deserve to be derailed.
<< <i>It don't matter what you got, not alot, so what
What does this have to do with anything? Try to stay on topic, this is an important thread that doesn't deserve to be derailed. >>
You take the good, You take the bad, You take them both and there you have.....this thread.
Doug
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<< <i>Bud and Radisson are starting to make noise. The NFL may not have a heart when it comes to these issues, but they do care about money. AP will be taking another week, possible year off. Keep Asiata for now! >>
Good call .
<< <i>if ya don't eatcha meat, ya can't have any pudding. >>
This comment is absolutely off the wall!!!
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
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<< <i>So it's safe to drop Asiata now?? LOL.. >>
Nice try.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
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<< <i>So it's safe to drop Asiata now?? LOL.. >>
Nice try.
I heard Asiata is Latin for plodding. LOL..
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<< <i>So it's safe to drop Asiata now?? LOL.. >>
Nice try.
I heard Asiata is Latin for plodding. LOL.. >>
In Japanese it means TOUCHDOWN!!!
Edited to add: He is available for a small fee.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
Don't waste your time and fees listing on ebay before getting in touch me by PM or at gregmo32@aol.com !
No offense to his dad's parenting skills, but his dad spent time in jail for money laundering associated with cocaine dealing. Not exactly Mike Brady.